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RWLabs
Profile Joined March 2017
Korea (South)273 Posts
November 23 2018 04:18 GMT
#5021
On November 23 2018 12:57 WaterSerpentM wrote:
you just like to blindly believe whatever is good for you without thinking....

all these people you mentioned that have better strategies, tell them to read and see, then come back to me

You're the one that blindly believes that your guide is good without thinking. I've been patient with you, but you're really stubborn aren't you? Oh yeah, 20 years of strategical development by the tip-top best players from around the globe? Pfft, what's that compared to what you wrote right?

Tell you what, prove that your guide is as good as you purport it to be. Hit the ladder, use your strategy, and tell us how high you get. I think it would be pretty miraculous if you can stay at 1000 MMR.
Aldaris was the good guy of Brood War.
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1470 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-23 04:23:38
November 23 2018 04:22 GMT
#5022
Even if it is a troll-act, it reminds me of so many RL situations. It kind of shows you in a nutshell how much distraction and confusion an ignorant, narcissistic person can cause to an overall reasonable society if he/she is incapable both of understanding reality and of doubting his/her personal "knowledge" and opinions.

If the guy truely starts streaming though, count me in, I'm watching. xD (with cam and commentary plz)
WaterSerpentM
Profile Joined November 2018
United Kingdom139 Posts
November 23 2018 04:29 GMT
#5023
On November 23 2018 13:18 RWLabs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2018 12:57 WaterSerpentM wrote:
you just like to blindly believe whatever is good for you without thinking....

all these people you mentioned that have better strategies, tell them to read and see, then come back to me

You're the one that blindly believes that your guide is good without thinking. I've been patient with you, but you're really stubborn aren't you? Oh yeah, 20 years of strategical development by the tip-top best players from around the globe? Pfft, what's that compared to what you wrote right?

Tell you what, prove that your guide is as good as you purport it to be. Hit the ladder, use your strategy, and tell us how high you get. I think it would be pretty miraculous if you can stay at 1000 MMR.


to be honest, even if i knew the absolute best strategy, i would not do good, im slow at mouse and keyboard

what is a FACT is; these are all the techniques;

Army:
Power Up:
Scouting:
Fortessing:
Support
Poking
Rendezvous
Drops

maybe I elaborated it unclear

people dont know what mastery is.

to be Master at something, you gotta know all the techniques and do them right, when you do, you become Master, and it tells you in your mind that you ARE master, and all the techniques come up in your mind of whatever skill it is.

Art techniques: Straight line, Curve and Spiral

Boxing Techniques: stance, jab straight, left block, right block, left hook, right hook, forward step, back step.

Singing: sing each note right

Starcraft: Brood War: techniques:

Army
Power Up
Scouting
Fortessing
Support
Poking
Rendezvous
Drops

why does it say that I have mastered it
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19221 Posts
November 23 2018 04:42 GMT
#5024
They aren't, and don't quote yourself to "explain" something more clearly than before.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
WaterSerpentM
Profile Joined November 2018
United Kingdom139 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-23 04:42:43
November 23 2018 04:42 GMT
#5025
did you think about it, or even try it?
RWLabs
Profile Joined March 2017
Korea (South)273 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-23 04:45:29
November 23 2018 04:44 GMT
#5026
On November 23 2018 13:29 WaterSerpentM wrote:
to be honest, even if i knew the absolute best strategy, i would not do good, im slow at mouse and keyboard

what is a FACT is; these are all the techniques;

Army:
Power Up:
Scouting:
Fortessing:
Support
Poking
Rendezvous
Drops

maybe I elaborated it unclear

Well that'd depend how far we're moving the goalposts. Seems like you're doing it now when we criticized the details of your guide, so you're generalizing it instead so you can have a mental victory. Maybe later it'll be moved to 'Kill your enemy units with yours'.

In your original guide you refer to yourself as a grand master, which I would think would imply that you actually played a few games against human opponents. Not to mention, you're telling me not only did you not study the current meta before writing the guide, you didn't even playtest it?

I don't know what's behind your incredible pride of a guide that works only against a computer. Maybe you're trolling, maybe you're embarrassed to admit it's bad. If you're here to learn about the game, let down your pride and learn the meta before you spout all this nonsense. If you're here to exert undeserved superiority, I don't think this is the right place.
Aldaris was the good guy of Brood War.
WaterSerpentM
Profile Joined November 2018
United Kingdom139 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-23 04:48:00
November 23 2018 04:47 GMT
#5027
i wouldn't say grandmaster is that good, its just getting there to my standards, there are higher masteries
RWLabs
Profile Joined March 2017
Korea (South)273 Posts
November 23 2018 05:10 GMT
#5028
Look WSM, I want to make it clear that we don't hate you. But if you're planning to post a guide that is both obsolete (since 2000's or earlier) and contrary to the established meta, you should be prepared to explain why you're right. Argument from assertion isn't an argument at all.

https://old.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/62s07h/the_im_a_starcraft_2_player_trying_to_get_into/

This page has some good references, but most importantly two active Discord where you can meet new people and try out your strategies. See what works, see what doesn't. Most of the players there are casual so don't worry about getting brutalized by a 2500 MMR player.
Aldaris was the good guy of Brood War.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51078 Posts
November 23 2018 06:31 GMT
#5029
On November 23 2018 13:47 WaterSerpentM wrote:
i wouldn't say grandmaster is that good, its just getting there to my standards, there are higher masteries


what is your mmr?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10336 Posts
November 23 2018 06:46 GMT
#5030
On November 23 2018 13:29 WaterSerpentM wrote:
to be honest, even if i knew the absolute best strategy, i would not do good, im slow at mouse and keyboard

At first I thought that this was a top tier troll, but now I realize that this is one of those strategy genius gisus who moan "if I had better mechanics I'd show you why your play is dumb" and stuff like that. I am disappointed.

Kid, try learning before teaching.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-23 07:16:55
November 23 2018 07:16 GMT
#5031
Canata is streaming on twitch: www.twitch.tv/canata
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1470 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-23 07:47:04
November 23 2018 07:46 GMT
#5032
On November 23 2018 16:16 onlystar wrote:
Canata is streaming on twitch: www.twitch.tv/canata


https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/113376-canatas-nice-timing

edit: can s.o. recover the pics they mention in that thread?
WaterSerpentM
Profile Joined November 2018
United Kingdom139 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-23 07:47:41
November 23 2018 07:47 GMT
#5033
On November 23 2018 15:46 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2018 13:29 WaterSerpentM wrote:
to be honest, even if i knew the absolute best strategy, i would not do good, im slow at mouse and keyboard

At first I thought that this was a top tier troll, but now I realize that this is one of those strategy genius gisus who moan "if I had better mechanics I'd show you why your play is dumb" and stuff like that. I am disappointed.

Kid, try learning before teaching.


lol you're disappointed about your own stereotypical assumptions
WaterSerpentM
Profile Joined November 2018
United Kingdom139 Posts
November 23 2018 07:54 GMT
#5034
On November 23 2018 15:31 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2018 13:47 WaterSerpentM wrote:
i wouldn't say grandmaster is that good, its just getting there to my standards, there are higher masteries


what is your mmr?


not sure, kinda low
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51078 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-23 08:18:46
November 23 2018 08:18 GMT
#5035
On November 23 2018 16:54 WaterSerpentM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2018 15:31 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 23 2018 13:47 WaterSerpentM wrote:
i wouldn't say grandmaster is that good, its just getting there to my standards, there are higher masteries


what is your mmr?


not sure, kinda low


you should focus on getting a higher MMR first before sharing you tips and tricks, also share replays, TeamLiquid has standards for strategy and tricks threads, we actually need to see replays of you succeeding with your strategies.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
WaterSerpentM
Profile Joined November 2018
United Kingdom139 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-23 08:22:26
November 23 2018 08:19 GMT
#5036
On November 23 2018 17:18 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2018 16:54 WaterSerpentM wrote:
On November 23 2018 15:31 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 23 2018 13:47 WaterSerpentM wrote:
i wouldn't say grandmaster is that good, its just getting there to my standards, there are higher masteries


what is your mmr?


not sure, kinda low


you should focus on getting a higher MMR first before sharing you tips and tricks, also share replays, TeamLiquid has standards for strategy and tricks threads, we actually need to see replays of you succeeding with your strategies.


Ah okay, I see thanks =]

best advice given since ive registered to this =]
gDPhantom
Profile Joined January 2015
New Zealand162 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-23 09:23:28
November 23 2018 09:22 GMT
#5037
anyone have any idea who qasdfzxcvasdf on the ladder is ? top20 Terran
YNWA
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5829 Posts
November 23 2018 10:52 GMT
#5038
On November 23 2018 16:47 WaterSerpentM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2018 15:46 Jealous wrote:
On November 23 2018 13:29 WaterSerpentM wrote:
to be honest, even if i knew the absolute best strategy, i would not do good, im slow at mouse and keyboard

At first I thought that this was a top tier troll, but now I realize that this is one of those strategy genius gisus who moan "if I had better mechanics I'd show you why your play is dumb" and stuff like that. I am disappointed.

Kid, try learning before teaching.


lol you're disappointed about your own stereotypical assumptions


How old are you? Just curious.
zerglingling
Profile Joined April 2018
131 Posts
November 23 2018 11:31 GMT
#5039
If I wanted to troll the shit out of TL, I'd probably do exactly what this guy does.
castleeMg
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Canada786 Posts
November 23 2018 11:34 GMT
#5040
This guy should make a guide on trolling what a god
AKA: castle[eMg]@USEast/ iCCup
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