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ZeroDPX
Profile Joined April 2009
United States392 Posts
September 06 2012 03:09 GMT
#41
@moktira There is a tactic that can be used to avoid YouTube's content ID system, which I've seen used elsewhere. You basically embed the video you want as the upper left 3/4ths of the frame in each dimension. Then you fill the remaining frame with some sort of short looping content. See an example of this being done here:



In this case, we'd want to create little loops of progamers prepping in booths or something

This of course requires that you be able to re-encode the videos (hopefully at a higher resolution so we don't lose quality overall) with this "looping frame" around them, and then re-upload. Which would take lots of time in any case. But if you test on a video known to currently be blocked and it works, and if it can be batch-automated, this would be a way to still preserve having all the VODs on YouTube, and it seems unlikely that the automated matching stuff would be made able to catch this any time in the foreseeable future. (The algorithms would have to know how to pick out a particular subframe out of a fully-moving image and match content only against that.)
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
September 06 2012 08:14 GMT
#42
FPV of each player in the bottom left + stargirls rotating on the right imo :D anyway that won't really work lol. Imagine doing this for the countless BW Vods and then someone reports your channel and it all goes to waste.
En Taro Violet
aquados
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands180 Posts
September 06 2012 14:26 GMT
#43
yup, i would like to help to save the content in some way, yust tell me how
the power of an outside source is that it comes from the inside. sabas[aov] c-/c toss
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
September 06 2012 14:54 GMT
#44
Ahhh Jon747 twas a sad day despite Baezzi's insanity.
Clow
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Brazil880 Posts
September 06 2012 15:17 GMT
#45
On September 06 2012 23:54 ShadeR wrote:
Ahhh Jon747 twas a sad day despite Baezzi's insanity.


Indeed it was. Thank god we have moktira.
(–_–) CJ Entusman #33
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 17:18:32
September 06 2012 16:31 GMT
#46
Is it possible to move off of youtube? Maybe something with less privacy issues? Megaupload/video is rumored to be coming back bigger and better.. What about dailymotion or something? From what I understand most games are backed up throughout the community by torrents.

This plausible or am I just off my rocker? haha
Jaedong.
Flip9
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany151 Posts
September 06 2012 21:38 GMT
#47
quickly download what is still left... you can use f.e. the firefox plugin DownloadHelper
qtiehunter
Profile Joined August 2012
1088 Posts
September 13 2012 17:23 GMT
#48
So... sorry for the pointless question, but I take it that MBC Game videos are irrecoverable?

If that's so...
RIP KT.Violet
aquados
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands180 Posts
September 13 2012 17:28 GMT
#49
no they are still there on torrents
the power of an outside source is that it comes from the inside. sabas[aov] c-/c toss
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
September 13 2012 17:35 GMT
#50
^ + the videos are just set to private by the owner, so not lost, just temporarily inaccessible. The reason they're set to private is to avoid more copyright claims that could result in a shutdown of the entire channel.
En Taro Violet
qtiehunter
Profile Joined August 2012
1088 Posts
September 13 2012 17:49 GMT
#51
So the torrents are still working, good to know. Didn't think of them before; thought they'd be already dead. Also I'm aware that they're just set on private on youtube, but if they got the last possible warning already I assumed it meant they'd never be set public again (unless mbc tells them it's ok or whatever crazy thing), thus being irrecoverable for random users like me.

Thanks for your answers!
RIP KT.Violet
ZeroDPX
Profile Joined April 2009
United States392 Posts
September 17 2012 02:40 GMT
#52
So moktira -- is there any further plan here? Reformat the videos as in my comment atop this thread? Find some new hosting location? Wait for some particular signal and then un-mark things private? Give up and just leave the MBC videos only accessible via torrent, for however long the torrents last?
moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1543 Posts
September 17 2012 07:42 GMT
#53
There are thousands of videos on nevake so reformatting them isn't really an option unfortunately. Using a site like dailymotion is an option but at the moment the plan is to upload all the MSLs as unlisted to another channel and re-add them to TLPD, they won't be searchable on YouTube then though. This will take a good bit of time however so I guess the torrents will have to suffice in the meantime. Currently the GOMTV MSLs are the only ones available on youtube.
If in doubt, differentiate and set equal to zero
ZeroDPX
Profile Joined April 2009
United States392 Posts
September 17 2012 23:06 GMT
#54
Unlisted videos don't get the same sorts of copyright filters applied to them?

Is there any way any of the rest of us can help get this plan accomplished? It seems like a lot of work that could maybe be automated somehow.
Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
September 17 2012 23:21 GMT
#55
btw i like how i cant watch the video at the top of this page because its blocked by GEMA....
youtube just keeps getting better and better.
hope that copyright problem can be fixed somehow.
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
September 18 2012 06:25 GMT
#56
On September 18 2012 08:21 Bakuryu wrote:
btw i like how i cant watch the video at the top of this page because its blocked by GEMA....
youtube just keeps getting better and better.
hope that copyright problem can be fixed somehow.

Proxy.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
kjwcj
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-18 08:02:43
September 18 2012 07:59 GMT
#57
On September 18 2012 08:21 Bakuryu wrote:
btw i like how i cant watch the video at the top of this page because its blocked by GEMA....
youtube just keeps getting better and better.
hope that copyright problem can be fixed somehow.


http://unblocker.yt/

Perhaps this will help.
Writer
AleXoundOS
Profile Joined January 2011
Georgia457 Posts
September 18 2012 08:11 GMT
#58
What is the approximate size of the whole video archive on the channel?
And has anybody a local copy of all content, or spread across different locations?

There are torrents, but it seems that not all videos are present and it's not active enough.
If the safety of videos is ok, then the question is how to make them public.
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GeckoVOD
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Germany814 Posts
September 18 2012 08:53 GMT
#59
On September 18 2012 16:59 kjwcj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2012 08:21 Bakuryu wrote:
btw i like how i cant watch the video at the top of this page because its blocked by GEMA....
youtube just keeps getting better and better.
hope that copyright problem can be fixed somehow.


http://unblocker.yt/

Perhaps this will help.


Most of these services do work to some extent, but for me personally it all turns into a buffer show. You have to wait for 30 minutes to watch a 5 minute clip sometimes. GEMA is seriously retarded /:
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moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1543 Posts
September 18 2012 10:46 GMT
#60
On September 18 2012 08:06 ZeroDPX wrote:
Unlisted videos don't get the same sorts of copyright filters applied to them?

Is there any way any of the rest of us can help get this plan accomplished? It seems like a lot of work that could maybe be automated somehow.

Unlisted videos can still get content id matches so sometimes won't work in Germany or Japan. As far as I know, the way we got copyright was MBC Media directly issuing it, not by matching the videos, otherwise it would have happened for more videos and happened english commentators too, that is just a guess though but if correct then they will not find unlisted VODs.

A lot of this is already automated, there's a few of us downloading everything (prioritising VODs that aren't backed up at the moment), once that's done we can begin re-uploading, so it will take time but computer time and not me physically having to click each link or anything. Actually I might pm you later with more about this.


On September 18 2012 17:11 AleXoundOS wrote:
What is the approximate size of the whole video archive on the channel?
And has anybody a local copy of all content, or spread across different locations?

There are torrents, but it seems that not all videos are present and it's not active enough.
If the safety of videos is ok, then the question is how to make them public.

The entire archive is backed up (at TL HQ I believe) but a few of us are doing it again at the moment. I would guess it's about 3TB in total but not sure, I'll get back to you in a few weeks about that if you like.
If in doubt, differentiate and set equal to zero
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