Daniel from the united states comes on to help Dudey?
STop making another account on a different computer. T R O L L.

I put quite a few examples up already.

Daniel

United States20 Posts

April 27 2003 12:04 GMT

#102

Yes i'm from the United States and my name is Daniel, you have not provided proof, you have merely insulted Dudey's skill, but sorry that does'nt work. Please answer the questions. This is a huge witch-hunt, and whether there are any to be found i won't judge either way until there is proof. I'm open to BOTH sides, and abusive rhetoric does not fly, if you can answer the questions i asked i am honestly open to hearing.

-Whear(for some reason i can't login on my other account)

Toff

Norway309 Posts

April 27 2003 12:05 GMT

#103

yeah, like dudey would set up a second account and use the name daniel if he was trying to fool people...sigh. Also what has trolling got to do with this?

Daniel

United States20 Posts

April 27 2003 12:06 GMT

#104

Specifically,

-specific, obvious points of hacking behavior

-evidence of another playing,(hotkeys, styles, etc)(NOT insulting of skill when you aren't in a position to know that perfectly)

-what about Veg, its been proven Dudey played vs him

RaGe_banned

United States538 Posts

April 27 2003 12:07 GMT

#105

Testie now your last post was just a little childish;P

Kobayashi

Portugal1970 Posts

April 27 2003 14:06 GMT

#106

ilnp you didn't just play poorly in wdt,you lost like 90% of your TEAMUSA matches against completly unknow players...don't tell me you didn't care for those games either because if that's true I think american bwplayers would have something to say about that

Toff

Norway309 Posts

April 27 2003 14:13 GMT

#107

I don't think ilnp care all that much about what american bw players think of his team USA performance though.

Klogon

MURICA15980 Posts

April 27 2003 14:38 GMT

#108

You guys keep saying "Ret should be the one advancing" but comon, if you were Elky or Smuft looking for the BEST PLAYER, sometimes it's realistic to "cheat" the rules. Comon, ilnp showed he could beat Ret more times than Ret could beat him. So overall, in their whole series, ilnp came up on top. That should matter. That's the whole point of this tournement right? To find out who's best. So although official, Ret may have won, HE AGREED TO FORGET THE PAST GAMES. And in the WHOLE SERIES they played, ilnp won. That's why Elky/Smuft let him advance. Because their asses depend (well, a bit) on the WDTour winner to be good. So wouldn't it be logical for them to let the better proforming player pass? Add that plus the fact ret AGREED to forget the previous series.

...

but the only reason ret is backing out of his word is because there's a lot of people behind his back. If ilnp lost to Veg, or even Testie, I bet you anything that Ret wouldn't be as pissed, AND all you people wouldn't support him either.

Smuft probably said "replay it" because for him, the QUALITY matters more than "straight, by the book following the rules".

And guys, get over it. There really isn't a WDTour conspiricy.

nArAnjO

Peru2571 Posts

April 27 2003 14:42 GMT

#109

ok they let Willet play IntoTheMadcow again cuz he is better the swedish is prolly better!! -_- what u say doesn't make sense

Kobayashi

Portugal1970 Posts

April 27 2003 14:46 GMT

#110

Klogon..now your post is just stupid...You can't bend the rules just to give the victory to the better player,sometimes the better player just doesn't win,that's bw. If ret hacks,ban him. If he doesn't, he goes on to play Testie...I really don't see what's the question here

MongoTummy

United States22 Posts

April 27 2003 14:48 GMT

#111

Klogon ret may have lost the re because he was pissed he had allready beat ilnp 2-1. And, many people have said elky told ret to "play or be disqualified," so he really didn't have a choice.

MongoTummy

United States22 Posts

April 27 2003 14:51 GMT

#112

And klogon you can't just bend the rules, in korean pro leagues they can't just have people re if an upset happens. Read the news on the first page of this site, Yellow lost to doggi, yellow is obviously better than doggi, but the league can't just have them re because doggi won...It dosn't work like that.

ilnp

Iceland1330 Posts

April 27 2003 14:51 GMT

#113

On April 27 2003 18:46 RaGe wrote:
the kid has had a "5 digit bank account" since the age of 2, I'm sure since this tournament was a big thing to him, he would have gone out and bought a new computer to decrease the risks of him losing to something like a disconnect, and he obviously has always had a good computer.
And when he disced he came back in about the ammount of time it takes to restart a computer, first he blamed it on his computer dying, then he blaimed it on the Cable in Missouri. Which is it dudey?

I've been quite clear on what I've said. You are just not good at reading. My computer was dying, then died vs. Ret. I was disconnected from Battle.net twice for connection reasons, and my latency kept changing <-- this was blamed on the cable modem in Missouri. And though you guys may be in high school and shit your pants at this, but 10,000 is not a lot of money. It's definitely not enough money to go out and spend hundreds of dollars on a shitty computer I dont' need just for a BW tournament. I've bought a computer, it doesn't work, and i'm working on it. I've been working on it for three weeks and I've posteda bout it many times

Excalibur_Z

United States12281 Posts

April 27 2003 14:53 GMT

#114

Klogon that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. You're talking about ignoring the outcome (2-1 win in favor of Ret) because one player is BELIEVED to be better. How could he be better if he lost 2-1? It's not an admin's job to make stuff up as they go along. They made the rules and they have to enforce them - there was no foul play when Ret beat Dudey but because the admins FELT Dudey should win they forced a rematch (play or be DQ'd!). The odds were stacked against Ret the entire time - Z maps, poor administration, and possibly maphack/substitution which I won't delve into - and he still won.

The bottom line is he won but he "lost" because of favoritism. If Dudey beat any other player 2-1 do you think the admins would risk him losing by playing a rematch? No they would say the other player lost, get over it, and Dudey would advance. Total unfairness.

RaGe_banned

United States538 Posts

April 27 2003 15:02 GMT

#115

dude ilnp how can you say that $10,000 isn't a lot of money? The only thing in this world bigger than my penis is your wallet and you say that $10,000 isn't a lot of money, and your a college student none the less?

Kobayashi

Portugal1970 Posts

April 27 2003 15:06 GMT

#116

and ilnp I really would like to know what you think of your team usa matches, even though toff doesn't think it's important what the everyday-bw-american-newbie has to say about it,I'm portuguese and if someone on team prt was playing "eating, without sound" etc has ilnp said to explain his bad performance on wdt I think I'd get really pissed off=)

maThRaf

Canada213 Posts

April 27 2003 15:07 GMT

#117

i guess this works out for tomson he can purposely disconect and expect a replay game, works out for him since he can lose 1 more game.
hihihiiii

HowitZer

United States1610 Posts

April 27 2003 15:11 GMT

#118

The question is did Elky obs the last match between ilnp and ret or if not did he watch the replay? Because supposedly ilnp had completely lost and if this was the case then ret should advance without a doubt.

But if there was any chance of ilnp coming back then they need to play again.

If Elky didn't even see the match and just made his decision becuase it was the easiest for him at the time then that's his fault for taking the easy way out instead of resolving the problem right away.

This is assuming ilnp's disc was a coincedence, but maybe he talked about his computer for three weeks so he had a disc in the bag to use at any time during the games. This is probably not true and there is no way to prove it so we have to believe ilnp.

ilnp

Iceland1330 Posts

April 27 2003 16:50 GMT

#119

On April 28 2003 00:02 RaGe wrote:
dude ilnp how can you say that $10,000 isn't a lot of money? The only thing in this world bigger than my penis is your wallet and you say that $10,000 isn't a lot of money, and your a college student none the less?

A couple year old BMW costs 25,000-30,000.

A house in my neighborhood, which is upper/middle class in an area with suprisingly low real estate prices is between 150-200,000. My rent when I lived in Boston was 1,500/month.

10,000 is a lot of money, and anyone with no debt and 10,000 in savings in addition to having a job that pays more than their financial duties (bills) is obviously well off. But I'm not exactly rich enough to waddle down to a Gateway store and lay down 1500 on a new computer I don't need because mine broke and I can't wait three days because of a BW tournament, now is it?