On June 28 2012 23:01 Slakkoo wrote: He cheated in a game, yes it's about money and I see the big issue. But I just want to tell, there have been doctors who has molested kids and such and they still get their licences back, if not in their country, in others...
Slakkoo, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
It was a post with a point, though poorly worded. It seems your rambling mind is too set on putting him down to score 'forum points' amongst fellow posters to understand what it was he was trying to say. Your post had considerably less substance than his. Think about that.
On June 28 2012 23:01 Slakkoo wrote: He cheated in a game, yes it's about money and I see the big issue. But I just want to tell, there have been doctors who has molested kids and such and they still get their licences back, if not in their country, in others...
Slakkoo, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
It was a post with a point, though poorly worded. It seems your rambling mind is too set on putting him down to score 'forum points' amongst fellow posters to understand what it was he was trying to say. Your post had considerably less substance than his. Think about that.
On June 29 2012 01:33 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: its simple. people need blame one thing and ignore the real problem. is like italy. berlusconi was the real problem. sure.. yes. There are many reason to bw become less popular but the simple answer is savior the destroyer -_-
Are you still going at it? Cause last time when you tried to prove your point, you went as far as "ok u mad cuz savior give free win to bisu in the msl final fake win bro so sad :D" -> "bisu fan?"
Then what is the "real problem" here? The one that everyone, even including the Korean fans, are ignoring at this moment?
On June 28 2012 23:01 Slakkoo wrote: He cheated in a game, yes it's about money and I see the big issue. But I just want to tell, there have been doctors who has molested kids and such and they still get their licences back, if not in their country, in others...
Slakkoo, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
It was a post with a point, though poorly worded. It seems your rambling mind is too set on putting him down to score 'forum points' amongst fellow posters to understand what it was he was trying to say. Your post had considerably less substance than his. Think about that.
Ignoring the youtube video, there is obviously a big problem with his argument. Making comparisons like this is good food for thought sometimes, but it is not a way to prove a position. One, because doctors and progamers are not the same (for instance, there is a much bigger PR concern for media), Two, because most people upon hearing that doctors who molest their kids sometimes get their licenses back would not thing 'oh well that's reasonable,' they would actually be a little shocked.
I'm not a person who thinks Savior is the son of Satan, but it's very clear that a league, especially a fragile league, cannot have their name knowingly accepting a cheater. Crucifying Savior was the only way to mitigate the damage his actions caused. However, as intelligent individuals more knowledgeable about the scene and less susceptible to uninformed opinion, we can say that there is more to savior and more to the collapse of the scene than the sensational headlines that mar public perception of all things. Not to say that a lot of people didn't take it as a personal insult and tragedy that they cheered for Savior for a year of slumping only to find out the person they'd given their hearts to was going to be the posterboy of the scandal. That messes with internal consistency and a lot of people resort to just going to complete opposite direction and hating him. But again, I find it a pathetic perspective. Dehumanizing and scapegoating a person because it is the simplest way to escape your own feelings.
On June 28 2012 23:01 Slakkoo wrote: He cheated in a game, yes it's about money and I see the big issue. But I just want to tell, there have been doctors who has molested kids and such and they still get their licences back, if not in their country, in others...
Slakkoo, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
It was a post with a point, though poorly worded. It seems your rambling mind is too set on putting him down to score 'forum points' amongst fellow posters to understand what it was he was trying to say. Your post had considerably less substance than his. Think about that.
Ignoring the youtube video, there is obviously a big problem with his argument. Making comparisons like this is good food for thought sometimes, but it is not a way to prove a position. One, because doctors and progamers are not the same (for instance, there is a much bigger PR concern for media), Two, because most people upon hearing that doctors who molest their kids sometimes get their licenses back would not thing 'oh well that's reasonable,' they would actually be a little shocked.
I'm not a person who thinks Savior is the son of Satan, but it's very clear that a league, especially a fragile league, cannot have their name knowingly accepting a cheater. Crucifying Savior was the only way to mitigate the damage his actions caused. However, as intelligent individuals more knowledgeable about the scene and less susceptible to uninformed opinion, we can say that there is more to savior and more to the collapse of the scene than the sensational headlines that mar public perception of all things. Not to say that a lot of people didn't take it as a personal insult and tragedy that they cheered for Savior for a year of slumping only to find out the person they'd given their hearts to was going to be the posterboy of the scandal. That messes with internal consistency and a lot of people resort to just going to complete opposite direction and hating him. But again, I find it a pathetic perspective. Dehumanizing and scapegoating a person because it is the simplest way to escape your own feelings.
Nicely put man, I couldn't have said it better myself.
and @Slakoo, that's a good point. Even convicted killers go to jail to rehabilitate and they try to make them fit in the society when they are done serving their sentence.
On June 28 2012 23:01 Slakkoo wrote: He cheated in a game, yes it's about money and I see the big issue. But I just want to tell, there have been doctors who has molested kids and such and they still get their licences back, if not in their country, in others...
Slakkoo, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
It was a post with a point, though poorly worded. It seems your rambling mind is too set on putting him down to score 'forum points' amongst fellow posters to understand what it was he was trying to say. Your post had considerably less substance than his. Think about that.
Ignoring the youtube video, there is obviously a big problem with his argument. Making comparisons like this is good food for thought sometimes, but it is not a way to prove a position. One, because doctors and progamers are not the same (for instance, there is a much bigger PR concern for media), Two, because most people upon hearing that doctors who molest their kids sometimes get their licenses back would not thing 'oh well that's reasonable,' they would actually be a little shocked.
I'm not a person who thinks Savior is the son of Satan, but it's very clear that a league, especially a fragile league, cannot have their name knowingly accepting a cheater. Crucifying Savior was the only way to mitigate the damage his actions caused. However, as intelligent individuals more knowledgeable about the scene and less susceptible to uninformed opinion, we can say that there is more to savior and more to the collapse of the scene than the sensational headlines that mar public perception of all things. Not to say that a lot of people didn't take it as a personal insult and tragedy that they cheered for Savior for a year of slumping only to find out the person they'd given their hearts to was going to be the posterboy of the scandal. That messes with internal consistency and a lot of people resort to just going to complete opposite direction and hating him. But again, I find it a pathetic perspective. Dehumanizing and scapegoating a person because it is the simplest way to escape your own feelings.
Nicely put man, I couldn't have said it better myself.
and @Slakoo, that's a good point. Even convicted killers go to jail to rehabilitate and they try to make them fit in the society when they are done serving their sentence.
Except every single one of them got death sentence from KeSPA.
The perspective people often ignore is what happened to sponsorship following the match fixing scandal. The fans' perspectives DONT EVEN MATTER HERE because they are not what pulled the money from the game and brought about the actual collapse.
It is an absolute fact that following the match fixing scandal, at least one team folded immediately and sponsorship for leagues and teams dried up within a season. That is indisputable. Savior is not a scapegoat; he is a symbol, yes, but also more directly responsible than any other individual for causing sponsors to pull all support from the league.
It doesn't really impact the game when Bart Miadich gets named in the Mitchell report for taking HGH. Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens? Huge deal, and not just because they are being made scapegoats: they had a huge hand in shaping the game and the industry and thus have a ton of money and importance attached to their actions.
On June 29 2012 13:07 tedster wrote: The perspective people often ignore is what happened to sponsorship following the match fixing scandal. The fans' perspectives DONT EVEN MATTER HERE because they are not what pulled the money from the game and brought about the actual collapse.
It is an absolute fact that following the match fixing scandal, at least one team folded immediately and sponsorship for leagues and teams dried up within a season. That is indisputable. Savior is not a scapegoat; he is a symbol, yes, but also more directly responsible than any other individual for causing sponsors to pull all support from the league.
It doesn't really impact the game when Bart Miadich gets named in the Mitchell report for taking HGH. Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens? Huge deal, and not just because they are being made scapegoats: they had a huge hand in shaping the game and the industry and thus have a ton of money and importance attached to their actions.
Huh ? I don't care about drama any way I am hype right now can't wait to watch sashin vs genius terran tomorrow . GoGOGO SAshin !!!!!!!!!!!