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brolaf
Profile Joined May 2012
291 Posts
May 31 2012 21:37 GMT
#81
On June 01 2012 04:10 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 03:40 toopham wrote:
When he beat flash peak, 2443, tell me

He doesn't need to. Flash peaked at 2443 when there were still 3 leagues active. Now there's only 1.4, and barely that. That's like saying, "Flash sucks, let me know when he beats Bisu's 63-win PL record." He's never going to, because it's literally not possible. PL just doesn't have enough rounds and games.

Grats Fantasy <3

i dont think ElO has decay does it.. so if he wins enough games, he will get his elo, even if the games are spaced out
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 21:39:10
May 31 2012 21:37 GMT
#82
I know there's a reason that Fantasy fans should be happy but it's hard to care or think this is a big deal when everyone is out there practicing two games. Changes the practice dyanamic entirely.

EDIT: I'm just saying if he had done it pre SC2 in PL it would have been way more impressive and notable.
brokenLoL
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom419 Posts
May 31 2012 21:40 GMT
#83
On June 01 2012 06:37 Vasoline73 wrote:
I know there's a reason that Fantasy fans should be happy but it's hard to care or think this is a big deal when everyone is out there practicing two games. Changes the practice dyanamic entirely.

EDIT: I'm just saying if he had done it pre SC2 in PL it would have been way more impressive and notable.


You're just angry that Fantasy is better than Flash at two different games.
Save me from myself
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 31 2012 21:41 GMT
#84
On June 01 2012 06:37 Vasoline73 wrote:
I know there's a reason that Fantasy fans should be happy but it's hard to care or think this is a big deal when everyone is out there practicing two games. Changes the practice dyanamic entirely.

EDIT: I'm just saying if he had done it pre SC2 in PL it would have been way more impressive and notable.


well he did have the best record in the previous season and defeated flash in the head to head, elo isn't everything.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37055 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 22:16:11
May 31 2012 22:15 GMT
#85
On June 01 2012 03:08 BisuDagger wrote:
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On June 01 2012 03:06 Louuster wrote:
Grats Fanta, not surprised given the play hes shown recently. Probably the next (and last? ) OSL winner


Indeed. Everyone wants a Jangbi vs Fantasy rematch, but honestly the best TvT rivals of all time is Fanta vs Flash. I think it would be an epic ending to have a bo7 decide who is the true ruler of the SC:BW in the end.

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On June 01 2012 03:02 SeeKeR wrote:
F A N T A S Y
A
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T
A
S
Y S A T N A F

<3 <3 <3


edit: Just realized you can spell Satan be rearrange his letters!

edit: nvm, it doesn't work :/
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hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
May 31 2012 22:40 GMT
#86
I want fantasy to knock flash out, then proceed to lose vs Jangbi in the finals.
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11381 Posts
May 31 2012 22:42 GMT
#87
On June 01 2012 07:40 hifriend wrote:
I want fantasy to knock flash out, then proceed to lose vs Jangbi in the finals.

The Protoss in me wars against the SKT fan in me. Which will win? I would just hope for an epic fight.
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catabowl
Profile Joined November 2009
United States815 Posts
May 31 2012 23:01 GMT
#88
On June 01 2012 06:37 Vasoline73 wrote:
I know there's a reason that Fantasy fans should be happy but it's hard to care or think this is a big deal when everyone is out there practicing two games. Changes the practice dyanamic entirely.

EDIT: I'm just saying if he had done it pre SC2 in PL it would have been way more impressive and notable.


LOL... and Fantasy isn't practicing two games?

hahaha
Jung! Myung! Hoooooooooooooooooon! #TeamPolt
Nerfed
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation1132 Posts
May 31 2012 23:25 GMT
#89
Good job, Fantasy. I'm looking forward to see Tantasy weening this OSL
SpeaKEaSY
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1070 Posts
May 31 2012 23:30 GMT
#90
FUCK YEAH FANTASYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW!?!?!?
Aim for perfection, settle for mediocrity - KawaiiRice 2014
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
May 31 2012 23:33 GMT
#91
On June 01 2012 06:37 brolaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 04:10 Kiett wrote:
On June 01 2012 03:40 toopham wrote:
When he beat flash peak, 2443, tell me

He doesn't need to. Flash peaked at 2443 when there were still 3 leagues active. Now there's only 1.4, and barely that. That's like saying, "Flash sucks, let me know when he beats Bisu's 63-win PL record." He's never going to, because it's literally not possible. PL just doesn't have enough rounds and games.

Grats Fantasy <3

i dont think ElO has decay does it.. so if he wins enough games, he will get his elo, even if the games are spaced out


I'm pretty sure that even if Fantasy wins every single BW game until BW is no longer played it is still mathematically impossible for him to achieve Flash's record.

Also, the ease through which you climb the ELO ratings over a given length of time depends largely on the number of games being played. When you consider that nobody can stay on top forever, that matters a lot in determining ELO ratings. Fantasy has reached his peak right now. Over a 6 month period he has won better than 90% of his games. I'm pretty sure not even Flash has ever done this. But over the same length of time, Flash would have a higher ELO because of more games played at a win percentage almost as high.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
MetalPanda
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1152 Posts
May 31 2012 23:36 GMT
#92
On June 01 2012 08:33 Mortality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 06:37 brolaf wrote:
On June 01 2012 04:10 Kiett wrote:
On June 01 2012 03:40 toopham wrote:
When he beat flash peak, 2443, tell me

He doesn't need to. Flash peaked at 2443 when there were still 3 leagues active. Now there's only 1.4, and barely that. That's like saying, "Flash sucks, let me know when he beats Bisu's 63-win PL record." He's never going to, because it's literally not possible. PL just doesn't have enough rounds and games.

Grats Fantasy <3

i dont think ElO has decay does it.. so if he wins enough games, he will get his elo, even if the games are spaced out


I'm pretty sure that even if Fantasy wins every single BW game until BW is no longer played it is still mathematically impossible for him to achieve Flash's record.

Also, the ease through which you climb the ELO ratings over a given length of time depends largely on the number of games being played. When you consider that nobody can stay on top forever, that matters a lot in determining ELO ratings. Fantasy has reached his peak right now. Over a 6 month period he has won better than 90% of his games. I'm pretty sure not even Flash has ever done this. But over the same length of time, Flash would have a higher ELO because of more games played at a win percentage almost as high.


No **** there? over 90% in a 6 month period???
Kornholi0
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada634 Posts
May 31 2012 23:41 GMT
#93
Like this is cool and all, but the only reason his rating is higher than flash's is because of his vP... That's about it
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 31 2012 23:43 GMT
#94
FANTAJI!
So good :/
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 31 2012 23:49 GMT
#95
On May 31 2012 22:41 BisuDagger wrote:
This is the Jung Myung Hoon era. All hail the new ruler!

Fantasy has officially taken over as the top player in SC:BW. I couldn't be happier for him. He is my favorite terran player and deserves the spotlight.

[image loading]


I saw this coming several months ago. I'm most certainly not surprised at all.
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
June 01 2012 00:03 GMT
#96
Come on, but we will never acknowledge Fantasy as the #1, he will be the gatekeeper to TBLS forever.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
June 01 2012 00:18 GMT
#97
Yay! Fantasy defeated Rush, Mini and Grape(that's right, let me repeat, GRAPE)!!! No doubt this OSL is his now!

+ Show Spoiler +
Just kidding. Only 2 losses since December is sick.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
June 01 2012 01:08 GMT
#98
On June 01 2012 02:45 Iplaythings wrote:
103 elo till he reached Flashes dominance


Relax, nobody is saying Fantasy's peak is better than Flash's, no need to say something like this.

Good for fanta!

I for one wouldn't mind a Fanta v Flash BOX right about now. =)
etrensce
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia337 Posts
June 01 2012 01:20 GMT
#99
He has evolved past the need for glasses
If life gives you lemons, burn lifes house down
Shadow_Dog
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada427 Posts
June 01 2012 01:37 GMT
#100
Does anyone know how TL's ELO is calculated?
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