• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 04:34
CET 10:34
KST 18:34
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 101SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1820Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises3Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship WardiTV Mondays $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
Empty tournaments section on Liquipedia A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone I would like to say something about StarCraft StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
SLON Grand Finals – Season 2 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Elden Ring Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Big Programming Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 725 users

[SPL] Grand Final Recap - Victory at Last! - Page 7

Forum Index > BW General
214 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 11 Next All
ellerina
Profile Joined April 2010
Philippines452 Posts
April 16 2012 11:47 GMT
#121
I NEED YOU I AM PROGAMER

watched every minute, regretted nothing. amazing finals!
Still round the corner there may wait , A new road or a secret gate /And though I oft have passed them by, A day will come at last when I /Shall take the hidden paths that run/West of the Moon, East of the Sun
trexbqs
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia1731 Posts
April 16 2012 12:05 GMT
#122
great write up. Thanks.
Congratulation SKT. awesome final.
HoeJJa !!!!
Learn,live and love it.
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
April 16 2012 12:25 GMT
#123
What an epic write-up. I usually don't follow anymore the BW scene but this finals in particular i was there watching it early in the morning (for me). What an epic finals.
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
AnYvia
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria474 Posts
April 16 2012 12:31 GMT
#124
Amazing write-up as usual. My breath has been stolen.
SKT, the best KT.
Flash / MVP / Seed / Leenock / DRG / Life
mesaha
Profile Joined April 2012
Algeria3 Posts
April 16 2012 12:38 GMT
#125
--- Nuked ---
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
April 16 2012 12:38 GMT
#126
Was expecting huge skt-biasness in the report, was not disappoint.


Ggwp skt
김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
April 16 2012 13:39 GMT
#127
tears came down cause I know I will probably never see a bw only PL finals live in korea.
this may be one of the only things in my entire life that I will forever regret.

Mrwl
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Sweden339 Posts
April 16 2012 14:04 GMT
#128
On April 16 2012 22:39 Kznn wrote:
tears came down cause I know I will probably never see a bw only PL finals live in korea.
this may be one of the only things in my entire life that I will forever regret.




I feel exactly the same We should moan together....
BW heyo
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9527 Posts
April 16 2012 14:09 GMT
#129
On April 16 2012 19:55 gogoplex wrote:
I love Flash genius to death, but 2pacalypse's article on the Bisu vs. Flash is so lacking and so deceiving that readers who haven't seen the games think it was too simple. For example, Bisu didn't make just zealots because he lost core. Core was already on the way, and the speedlot wave transition was part of the plan, if you look at the game in its totality. There were a few other significant details that the article missed that made it unreflective of the epicness of the Ace match.

Still, I love the fact the if indeed that if going to be the last BW PL game, it run with the show!

I think you're misunderstanding what a Battle Report is. I definitely did not write a deep analysis of that game. It's just a short report with few pictures on how the game transpired. How can it be deceiving? I literally just went through the game step by step and wrote what was happening on the screen at the moment.
But even if I did write an analysis of it, you would still be wrong. Of course it was part of Bisu's plan to make zealots in PvT, that's the part of every PvT... But Bisu could ONLY make Zealots then. So unless it was his plan to lose a cybernetics core, I'd say he didn't do anything special there.
Just to put it into numbers (from VOD):
15:14 - Bisu loses his core
16:28 - it shows his core at about 60% done
16:52 - if you do the math, that's about the time his core finished

Now you see that Bisu was without his core for about two whole minutes. If you take into account that it takes 40 seconds for zealot to be produced, you can conclude that he made three rounds from his gateways of pure zealots. He just lucked out that Flash didn't build any vultures whatsoever. And if I remember correctly, Flash mentioned in an interview that he didn't make vultures because he thought he killed Bisu's citadel so he didn't have speed zealots. Alas...
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 14:13:02
April 16 2012 14:12 GMT
#130
The write-up is [image loading]the thread is [image loading] <3!

Quite an epic finals for what may be the last BW Proleague.
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
April 16 2012 14:15 GMT
#131
fantasy S+
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
Jongl0
Profile Joined June 2011
631 Posts
April 16 2012 14:15 GMT
#132
To be able to see this live... there isn't much I'd rather do. Unfortunately, however, this might have been the last BW PL. I really hope that it isn't and that we'll have more in future. We can just wait and see, I guess.

On another note, these articles are so good!
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 14:18:47
April 16 2012 14:18 GMT
#133
On April 16 2012 22:39 Kznn wrote:
tears came down cause I know I will probably never see a bw only PL finals live in korea.
this may be one of the only things in my entire life that I will forever regret.


I thought the next OSL's finals happens within the 9 days me and my family will spend in Korea, only to realize I miscalculated and we're actually a month earlier, like during the Ro8.



I hope BW and SC2 will split once the gaming industry(not gonna use the e word) in Korea re-establishes itself after the scandal, then we'll see more FvJ and KT vs SKT finals.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
GoooN
Profile Joined August 2010
217 Posts
April 16 2012 14:20 GMT
#134
Great write-up to a great series

but also:

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 16 2012 23:15 N.geNuity wrote:
fantasy S+

Crais
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2136 Posts
April 16 2012 14:31 GMT
#135
Great write up for a great match
RIP MBC Game Hero
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 14:38:13
April 16 2012 14:36 GMT
#136
I did not read the Riptide part for obivous reasons ( :-( ), but great write up everywhere else, and close to no SKT bias where it could be avoided, thanks guys.
I disagree with the way you rated Flash, but I don't really care. Still, you could give the best player on SKT a bit more consideration (and a S+ report card). After all, even as a Flash fan, I think Fantasy might be the current best BW player. His PvT is certainly, better, and he's proven that his TvT is at least closer than what many people expected =) His TvZ probably lags a bit behind, but that match up has rarely seemed as Terran favored since before IPXzerg, so it does not really matter.
This shall be settled in this next OSL, hopefully in the finals :D
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
April 16 2012 14:54 GMT
#137
Fantasy should be S+ and finals mvp, he beat Flash on a level playing field. Bisu beat a sacrificial p7gab and abused a broken map. Kiett's cartoon might be more accurate if flash had his hands tied together and bisu had a gun
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
April 16 2012 14:56 GMT
#138
Woongjin whooooo!
I think esports is pretty nice.
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
April 16 2012 15:00 GMT
#139
This finals were epic.
The OGN SPL production was flawless.
The commentators were fabulous.
The BW TL team coverage was splendid.
Fantasy vs Flash was mindblowing.
Bisu vs Flash was a cardiac arrest test.

The end was all tears, of joy and relief.

I will carry BW forever in my heart, and nothing can ever replace it.

On April 16 2012 14:44 Kiett wrote:
skt is best kt

spl team is best news team

bw is best esport


On April 16 2012 23:15 N.geNuity wrote:
fantasy S+
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
Khai
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia553 Posts
April 16 2012 15:04 GMT
#140
I hope this was not the end of the BW proleague but if it was then it surely was a fitting end. SKT hwaiting! Bisu hwaiting! Fantasy hwaiting!
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 11 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 26m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Killer 819
Larva 588
Stork 521
actioN 361
firebathero 326
Mini 256
Leta 215
Rush 148
Hyuk 129
Aegong 87
[ Show more ]
ggaemo 44
scan(afreeca) 32
Jaedong 23
Noble 16
Terrorterran 15
zelot 14
JulyZerg 14
Sharp 13
Bale 12
NaDa 7
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm174
XcaliburYe3
League of Legends
JimRising 673
C9.Mang0637
Counter-Strike
summit1g5492
Other Games
Happy531
Mew2King98
minikerr62
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1307
Upcoming Events
OSC
2h 26m
IPSL
7h 26m
Dewalt vs Bonyth
OSC
8h 26m
OSC
1d 2h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 4h
Replay Cast
1d 23h
Wardi Open
2 days
RotterdaM Event
2 days
Patches Events
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
3 days
OSC
4 days
OSC
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.