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Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
March 02 2012 17:28 GMT
#161
On March 03 2012 02:25 phosphorylation wrote:
From the article, it can't be more clear that it WILL be a BW starleague.


Depends on how you interpret it, really. But nothing says it "will" be BW starleague. But I do agree that that is the most natural interpretation.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
March 02 2012 17:31 GMT
#162
On March 03 2012 02:11 Darksoldierr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 00:10 StarStruck wrote:
On March 02 2012 17:59 Aunvilgod wrote:
On March 02 2012 17:51 Golgotha wrote:
razer is sponsoring every team in sc2, they should help bw imo. deck everything out razer and create brand loyalty. are bw fans not brand loyal or something? if i was a sponsor i would be all over bw so I could tap the legions of fans who love the players and the scene.


BW won´t grow outside of korea, no way that happens with these graphics. And neither does it seem to grow inside korea. It just is not that smart to sponsor BW.


You don't need flashy graphics to make a good game. -_-

Lots of people are rediscovering BW or discovering it for the first time due to SC2. They want to see what's up and if you read some of their responses you might be pleasantly surprised.

Yes, we know how game reviewers tend to focus on all the fluff including graphics, so if you want to listen to them by all means go right ahead.

Gameplay is what makes or breaks it for me. That's just me and I'm pretty sure I'm not alone.


But thats a problem itself, not many ppl plays SC2 and even less tries out BW, it just, BW cant grow at all outside of Korea, SC2 did push it up a bit but not worth giving money to it, and if its starts to wither down in Korea aswell, then at one point, LoL or other fancy new free to play game gonna take over.


It was never in the position to do so to begin with. We're spoken at length about a game's shelf-life before. No reason to travel down that road again.
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
March 02 2012 17:33 GMT
#163
On March 03 2012 02:28 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 02:25 phosphorylation wrote:
From the article, it can't be more clear that it WILL be a BW starleague.


Depends on how you interpret it, really. But nothing says it "will" be BW starleague. But I do agree that that is the most natural interpretation.

It's not "natural". It's obvious and clear as day.
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
March 02 2012 17:35 GMT
#164
On March 03 2012 02:22 Milkis wrote:
Do you really think I'd make all of this up?

I think you love drama and think very highly of your own speculations. You're prone to letting emotions cloud your judgement.
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Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-02 17:38:05
March 02 2012 17:37 GMT
#165
On March 03 2012 02:33 phosphorylation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 02:28 Milkis wrote:
On March 03 2012 02:25 phosphorylation wrote:
From the article, it can't be more clear that it WILL be a BW starleague.


Depends on how you interpret it, really. But nothing says it "will" be BW starleague. But I do agree that that is the most natural interpretation.

It's not "natural". It's obvious and clear as day.

Well, the article doesn't directly state it. So what Milkis is saying could be true if the reporter is deliberately trying to lead the reader astray. Either way we'll just see what happens b/c there is no good way to resolve this dispute.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
March 02 2012 17:37 GMT
#166
On March 03 2012 02:33 phosphorylation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 02:28 Milkis wrote:
On March 03 2012 02:25 phosphorylation wrote:
From the article, it can't be more clear that it WILL be a BW starleague.


Depends on how you interpret it, really. But nothing says it "will" be BW starleague. But I do agree that that is the most natural interpretation.

It's not "natural". It's obvious and clear as day.

I don't read korean, I don't have sources, I want bw to go on. Can you please translate a bit or two that give you that impression ?
I wouldn't be suprised if there was some ambiguity left, at least your post on the front page does not say anything particular about bw.
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Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
March 02 2012 17:39 GMT
#167
On March 03 2012 02:33 phosphorylation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 02:28 Milkis wrote:
On March 03 2012 02:25 phosphorylation wrote:
From the article, it can't be more clear that it WILL be a BW starleague.


Depends on how you interpret it, really. But nothing says it "will" be BW starleague. But I do agree that that is the most natural interpretation.

It's not "natural". It's obvious and clear as day.


i'm not going to tell you how to read the article, but you can go ahead and think that.

Remember, "grain of salt". you have to have a lot of filler in articles when you don't have much to write on other than a few quotes.

On March 03 2012 02:35 Chef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 02:22 Milkis wrote:
Do you really think I'd make all of this up?

I think you love drama and think very highly of your own speculations. You're prone to letting emotions cloud your judgement.

The latter is true, but I have no emotional investment in esports at all anymore, lol.

But you can think it's speculation all you want :O
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-02 17:41:41
March 02 2012 17:40 GMT
#168
On March 03 2012 02:01 Milkis wrote:

Sorry if it's "depressing" and if I've been "irritating" or "smug" or whatever. eSports isn't a pretty business and it can turn a lot of people bitter


Dear Milkis:

You're perfectly capable of posting logical posts to back up your views. Yet you prefer to post / end what are perfectly agreeable points with comments that are meant to (and I assume you understand do) incite and anger the community. No one is delusional in assuming that any business (be it esports, professional sports, private enterprise) will last forever. If you could refrain from ruining your own credibility when you're perfectly capable of just making informed posts with out purposefully pissing off portions of the community that would be much appreciated.

On March 03 2012 02:39 Milkis wrote:

The latter is true, but I have no emotional investment in esports at all anymore, lol.

But you can think it's speculation all you want :O


Then why are you here?
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
March 02 2012 17:42 GMT
#169
If it's not speculation, what are your sources that they have stopped trying to make an individual league happen for BW? To me that's all this article informs me of. "We're still trying." It's not a guarantee it will happen, no, but SC2 will be another article.
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Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-02 17:45:50
March 02 2012 17:44 GMT
#170
On March 03 2012 02:42 Chef wrote:
If it's not speculation, what are your sources that they have stopped trying to make an individual league happen for BW? To me that's all this article informs me of. "We're still trying." It's not a guarantee it will happen, no, but SC2 will be another article.


cause there's a very high probability the scene will swap over in april?


On March 03 2012 02:40 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 02:01 Milkis wrote:

Sorry if it's "depressing" and if I've been "irritating" or "smug" or whatever. eSports isn't a pretty business and it can turn a lot of people bitter


Dear Milkis:

You're perfectly capable of posting logical posts to back up your views. Yet you prefer to post / end what are perfectly agreeable points with comments that are meant to (and I assume you understand do) incite and anger the community. No one is delusional in assuming that any business (be it esports, professional sports, private enterprise) will last forever. If you could refrain from ruining your own credibility when you're perfectly capable of just making informed posts with out purposefully pissing off portions of the community that would be much appreciated.

Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 02:39 Milkis wrote:

The latter is true, but I have no emotional investment in esports at all anymore, lol.

But you can think it's speculation all you want :O


Then why are you here?


Fair point. I have trouble hiding bittenress nowadays...
Again, I'll post something tonight that's a bit more thorough and uses as many publicly available sources to back it up
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
March 02 2012 17:49 GMT
#171
On March 03 2012 02:44 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 02:40 Caihead wrote:
On March 03 2012 02:01 Milkis wrote:

Sorry if it's "depressing" and if I've been "irritating" or "smug" or whatever. eSports isn't a pretty business and it can turn a lot of people bitter


Dear Milkis:

You're perfectly capable of posting logical posts to back up your views. Yet you prefer to post / end what are perfectly agreeable points with comments that are meant to (and I assume you understand do) incite and anger the community. No one is delusional in assuming that any business (be it esports, professional sports, private enterprise) will last forever. If you could refrain from ruining your own credibility when you're perfectly capable of just making informed posts with out purposefully pissing off portions of the community that would be much appreciated.

On March 03 2012 02:39 Milkis wrote:

The latter is true, but I have no emotional investment in esports at all anymore, lol.

But you can think it's speculation all you want :O


Then why are you here?


Fair point. I have trouble hiding bittenress nowadays...
Again, I'll post something tonight that's a bit more thorough and uses as many publicly available sources to back it up


There's a distinction between being bitter at the esports scene / economical situation s.korea is in and being bitter at the community though, and I don't think it helps anyone if you choose to lash out at the community when clearly you did enjoy being a part of it. <3
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 02 2012 17:49 GMT
#172
On March 03 2012 02:28 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 02:25 phosphorylation wrote:
From the article, it can't be more clear that it WILL be a BW starleague.


Depends on how you interpret it, really. But nothing says it "will" be BW starleague. But I do agree that that is the most natural interpretation.


SC2 OSL? It just seems so...strange.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
March 02 2012 17:52 GMT
#173
Late may? o.o

That's sooooo far away...
Always smile~
supsun
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom343 Posts
March 02 2012 17:54 GMT
#174
On March 03 2012 00:10 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 17:59 Aunvilgod wrote:
On March 02 2012 17:51 Golgotha wrote:
razer is sponsoring every team in sc2, they should help bw imo. deck everything out razer and create brand loyalty. are bw fans not brand loyal or something? if i was a sponsor i would be all over bw so I could tap the legions of fans who love the players and the scene.


BW won´t grow outside of korea, no way that happens with these graphics. And neither does it seem to grow inside korea. It just is not that smart to sponsor BW.


You don't need flashy graphics to make a good game. -_-

Lots of people are rediscovering BW or discovering it for the first time due to SC2. They want to see what's up and if you read some of their responses you might be pleasantly surprised.

Yes, we know how game reviewers tend to focus on all the fluff including graphics, so if you want to listen to them by all means go right ahead.

Gameplay is what makes or breaks it for me. That's just me and I'm pretty sure I'm not alone.


Yeah, I was watching MLG for sc2, then it was over on Sunday. So I then tuned to watch BW again since the last OSL (Fantasy vs JangBi) and omg there was such a good, nostalgic feeling. I watch BW when I can... to me, it's never dead.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
March 02 2012 17:58 GMT
#175
April lol... with no genuine announcement or warning to their fanbase at all. "Oh, Brood War is over, thanks bye." Yeah, excuse me if I have trouble taking your word on that Unless I'm misinterpreting what you mean by switch, I think OGN would be shooting itself in the foot doing something like that. I give OGN a little more credit than this.
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Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
March 02 2012 18:02 GMT
#176
On March 03 2012 02:58 Chef wrote:
April lol... with no genuine announcement or warning to their fanbase at all. "Oh, Brood War is over, thanks bye." Yeah, excuse me if I have trouble taking your word on that Unless I'm misinterpreting what you mean by switch, I think OGN would be shooting itself in the foot doing something like that. I give OGN a little more credit than this.


They dropped PLENTY of warnings.

They literally asked the KR fanbase what they thought of SC2 in PL openly. Most people were open to the idea.

The thing about your comments is "oh no one translated it for us, it must not exist"

=/
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
March 02 2012 18:03 GMT
#177
On March 02 2012 23:36 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 23:10 Hesmyrr wrote:
xD the random SC2 posters that come in to vent their rage. Too bad your wanna-be-Brutus apparently got stabbed by another Brutus. BW lives on.


no guarantee that it's a BW OSL, is it?


I think it's interesting times right now after all like you said there is no guarantee that there will be a bw osl . So my mind wonders and the possibilities comes up maybe SF2 osl ? Sc2 osl ? LoL osl ? KoF osl ? . I don't know but if it goes either way than it's good game for me .
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phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
March 02 2012 18:07 GMT
#178
It's called "STARleague." And trying to argue for the possibility of this being a SC2 starleague is just silly; any one with modicum of Korean and esports knowledge would be able to see that they are clearly referring to the one and only BW starleague, not something new.
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SarahBW
Profile Joined July 2011
67 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-02 18:12:05
March 02 2012 18:08 GMT
#179
If there will be (brood war) OSL for sure... GREAT news
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
March 02 2012 18:09 GMT
#180
On March 03 2012 03:07 phosphorylation wrote:
It's called "STARleague." And trying to argue for the possibility of this being a SC2 starleague is just silly; any one with modicum of Korean and esports knowledge would be able to see that they are clearly referring to the one and only BW starleague, not something new.


Okay so your justification is based on

1) its name, which they may not be able to change yet because the switch isn't official yet.
2) "anyone who knows what they're talking about knows that this is false"

ok.
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