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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 16:01:48
November 10 2011 15:58 GMT
#81
On November 11 2011 00:49 Sawamura wrote:
@Iplaything , yes hell march is much more raw in it's music , however cod 3 main theme has much more heroic feel to it , hence my preference of that theme over all other war theme music.

Hmm we can agree to disagree on that..

Btw were I the only one who noticed how much KT loved icarus last season? Action did beast there in WL (watch his games vs Stork and bisu on that map for reference), flash and stats liked it aswell.
In the woods, there lurks..
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
November 10 2011 16:01 GMT
#82
On November 11 2011 00:58 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 00:49 Sawamura wrote:
@Iplaything , yes hell march is much more raw in it's music , however cod 3 main theme has much more heroic feel to it , hence my preference of that theme over all other war theme music.

Hmm we can agree to disagree on that..

Btw were I the only one who noticed how much KT loved icarus last season?


yeah, god knows why though.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
November 10 2011 16:04 GMT
#83
I thought flash was complaining that the map pool last year was bad for terran , Didn't know they love icarus ......
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
November 10 2011 16:18 GMT
#84
On November 11 2011 01:04 Sawamura wrote:
I thought flash was complaining that the map pool last year was bad for terran , Didn't know they love icarus ......

To be fair, Flash only managed a paltry 63.64% winrate vP last year compared to his 75% vZ and 81% vT. That's almost as bad as JD's vP (62%) last year, lol.

TvP be hard, yo.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19299 Posts
November 10 2011 16:34 GMT
#85
On November 11 2011 01:18 kuroshiroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 01:04 Sawamura wrote:
I thought flash was complaining that the map pool last year was bad for terran , Didn't know they love icarus ......

To be fair, Flash only managed a paltry 63.64% winrate vP last year compared to his 75% vZ and 81% vT. That's almost as bad as JD's vP (62%) last year, lol.

TvP be hard, yo.


TvP is Hard when (P)BeSt and (P)YoonJoong practice every day of the year just to beat you.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
chaosTheory_14cc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1270 Posts
November 11 2011 14:50 GMT
#86
On November 11 2011 01:34 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 01:18 kuroshiroi wrote:
On November 11 2011 01:04 Sawamura wrote:
I thought flash was complaining that the map pool last year was bad for terran , Didn't know they love icarus ......

To be fair, Flash only managed a paltry 63.64% winrate vP last year compared to his 75% vZ and 81% vT. That's almost as bad as JD's vP (62%) last year, lol.

TvP be hard, yo.


TvP is Hard when (P)BeSt and (P)YoonJoong practice every day of the year just to beat you.

All the practice in the world won't save them from the fully recovered Flash. (Hopefully)
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
November 11 2011 16:13 GMT
#87
I don't foresee another WL round like last time, not to mention it's shorter. Then in play-offs you have to rely on people like Hoejja performing in more than just one game.. hardly ideal. 3 of the weaker and easier games are gone replaced by 1 hard one, and KT already struggled in normal PL. Flash was already slipping a bit late last season; and Stats barely a viable second ace, meaning a lot more sniping to come.

Every team looks stronger than last year really imo, except STX; and SKT1 are kinda neither up or down. Even ACE are better. Hell, even for ace matches every team apart from ACE has a player who is able to beat Flash in a one off game half of the time.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
November 11 2011 16:30 GMT
#88
On November 12 2011 01:13 infinity2k9 wrote:
I don't foresee another WL round like last time, not to mention it's shorter. Then in play-offs you have to rely on people like Hoejja performing in more than just one game.. hardly ideal. 3 of the weaker and easier games are gone replaced by 1 hard one, and KT already struggled in normal PL. Flash was already slipping a bit late last season; and Stats barely a viable second ace, meaning a lot more sniping to come.

Every team looks stronger than last year really imo, except STX; and SKT1 are kinda neither up or down. Even ACE are better. Hell, even for ace matches every team apart from ACE has a player who is able to beat Flash in a one off game half of the time.


People like a hoejja are reliable in my opinion ,sure he doesn't show amazing games in the past however his current games he has shown that he is not a scrub like many thought he is , Hoejja took down players who are better than him in many ways . Maybe I am optimistic , I have complete confidence hoejja will do well these year.
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-11 16:33:21
November 11 2011 16:31 GMT
#89
Third time's a charm.

KT won the whole thing while losing two of their best players -- I wonder how far any of the other teams last year in the playoffs would've gotten without the #3 and #4. We're the only team in the league besides maybe CJ that plugs in random players and somehow becomes championship calibre. Though I guess the difference between CJ and KT is that we actually win the championships.
Remember Violet.
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
November 12 2011 07:15 GMT
#90
some headsup for kt fanboys.

Article in des about how KT has partnered with some hospital(?) to prevent stuff like flash's injury from happening again.

http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=51967

Also a couple of interviews in fomos. One is from CrazyHydra and the other is from Mind and Wooki. Make what you can with google translate.
Woo Jung Ho
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
November 12 2011 07:20 GMT
#91
On November 12 2011 16:15 iLoveKT wrote:
some headsup for kt fanboys.

Article in des about how KT has partnered with some hospital(?) to prevent stuff like flash's injury from happening again.

http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=51967

Also a couple of interviews in fomos. One is from CrazyHydra and the other is from Mind and Wooki. Make what you can with google translate.


thanks for the heads up

Images from the article (P)Reach,(T)Flash ,(P)Stats and the doctor .
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BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Phyrigian
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
New Zealand1332 Posts
November 12 2011 07:31 GMT
#92
--- Nuked ---
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
November 12 2011 07:36 GMT
#93
On November 12 2011 16:31 Phyrigian wrote:
I knew when I clicked on this thread It'd either be written by Sawa or Rawr. And Look, I was 200% right.

Hillarious Article, btw

When can i change my icon to dream team? :D


when teamliquid decides to upload the dream team logo
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
November 12 2011 07:39 GMT
#94
looks like no new uniforms for KT yet.
Woo Jung Ho
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
November 12 2011 07:42 GMT
#95
On November 12 2011 16:39 iLoveKT wrote:
looks like no new uniforms for KT yet.


the current uniform is okay , I see no reason for them to change it though .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
November 12 2011 07:52 GMT
#96
On November 12 2011 16:42 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2011 16:39 iLoveKT wrote:
looks like no new uniforms for KT yet.


the current uniform is okay , I see no reason for them to change it though .

eh, new uniforms would be nice, as long as theyre good. change can be nice, thats always a good reason
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
November 12 2011 08:30 GMT
#97
Wow. I dunno how I missed this article. Blind and Sawa you guys make us proud. KT will 3-peat. Nothing anyone can say will shake my belief in this prediction. Everything went wrong last year. Violet's cancer, Stats' slump, fOrGG retiring, Flash performing a notch below his 2010 form, the terrible R1 and R2 results. Yet through it all KT pulled through and gave us clutch performance after clutch performance. I don't think KT will be in 1st place at the end of the regular season like they were in 2009-2010, but come playoff time every team must fear KT.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
November 14 2011 08:15 GMT
#98
On (T)novemBer 12 2011 17:30 red4ce wrote:
(Z)wOw. I dunno how I missed this article. Blind and Sawa you guys make us proud. KT will 3-peat. Nothing anyone can say will shake my belief in this Prediction. Everything went wrong last year. (P)Violet's cancer, (P)Stats' slump, (T)fOrGG retiring, (T)Flash performing a notch below his 2010 form, the terrible R1 and R2 results. Yet through it all KT pulled through and gave us clutch performance after clutch performance. I don't think KT will be in 1st place at the (T)End of the regular season like they were in 2009-2010, but come playoff time every team must fear KT.


Left hand bonjwa is going to make the people who criticised him as a under performing player swallow their words .

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BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
November 14 2011 16:54 GMT
#99
[image loading]


In the remembrance of Luxury , I know people who are still angry about the match fixing, to me you are always a hero for kt as a zerg that actually had great talent and capability and as a solid zerg always manages to deliver us kt the wins . It's just sad to see your career ended like that , reading your message on your reflection of that single game you agreed to match fix in . Made me eyes teary. It's a cursed or a plague that has occur in the bw scene that until now still reek it's venom to us survivors of it .

Not only were you a solid zerg , from your 1v1 stats
+ Show Spoiler +
All: 161-127 (55.90%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L W L L L W L L W L | View Games
vT: 52-49 (51.49%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): W W L L W L L L W L | View Games
vZ: 63-40 (61.17%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L W L W L W L L W L | View Games
vP: 46-38 (54.76%) | Last 10 (old -> recent): L L L W L L W W L L | View Games




You even won a msl http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/leagues/161_Lost_Saga_MSL which was the greatest achievement you had , having you and young flash leading the team was the greatest combination ktf could ever pull out from their roster . I like to see it , as not the end of your young career and I have already forgiven you .

The damage has been done, not only talented players like hwasin,upmagic and you was pulled down to hell with savior , the bw scene almost got killed because of the match fixing scandal . I believe the bw scene has shrink twice it size due to effect of these scandal too . However , that doesn't tarnish the glory and talent you brought to your games . Indeed you are a hero on the same level as Flash . Maybe even greater if these match scandal thing didn't happen at all .

I believe a talent may have has his name tarnish in a certain section of his career however that doesn't block off other roads where you can shine . Luxury like your name I wish you have lots of luxury in life and a bright career in other fields . You are free now Luxury . Spread your wings and fly to victory .

(Z)Luxury > (P)JangBi Always

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Obligatory maximus song tribute


Note

Coach lee could say anything he want's but that doesn't change the fact that he was the greatest talent we had on our team ktf back in 2008.

BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
November 14 2011 17:07 GMT
#100
....Reach...yess.....s
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