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On May 10 2005 17:13 Sky101 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2005 16:50 azndng wrote:
have you been to vietnam is the past year? hell 2-3 years? Hanoi i will admit IS expensive to VIETNAM standards, but is NO WHERE CLOSE to saigon's living costs. And HANOI NOR SAIGON is close to being top 10 most expensive cities to live in the world... pshhh where the hell you get that idea?? Saigon is the richest city in Vietnam PERIOD!
and the whole pho thing...
there are places where they serve pho for 50 cents, but you sacrifice a lot these days.. you usually sit outside, on lil benches in the dirty floor which is usually dirt or next to mopeds blowing carbon monoxide towards you while you eat.. =) , next to some stranger, and use dirty utensils and serving bowls. but if you pay for a $1.50 bowl, you gain the indoors, an actual table and seat, and "better" cleaned utensils and serving bowls.
HCM vs SAIGON... i never met one vietnamese person in my life that said Ho Chi Minh City... for one, no one in vietnam can even say CITY.. they'll say some broken ass english, so they'd rather say saigon, which everyone in my family, my friends, my friends family.. everyone i know says saigon.. HCM is designated for either tourists, or pple who wanna be politically correct about the "new" name... but in all honesty... it'll probably always be called saigon in vietnamese eyes.
history in the USA...
USA is still biased by "only" studying western civilization until you reach WORLD history.. then, only a "small" portion of the chapters are designated to studying asia/africa/south america/etc etc. only if you take a specific class, you'll learn more about a certain country/continent... but a majority of history reflects the formation of america, the beginning/middle of amercica and their wars in history.
this is the list of top 10 most expensive cities in the world
1. Tokyo 2. Osaka Kobe 3. Oslo 4. Hongkong 5. Libreville 6. Zurich 7. London 8. Genève 9. Kopenhagen 10. Paris
Well HN is top 14 in 2003, and Saigon is 16th place. So die you ignorant monkey! http://www.finfacts.com/costofliving.htm
dude, do you know how stupid you are? FIRST, you say its TOP 10 in the world..THEN you give me facts that say 16th and 14th... know who is the stupid one? come at me when u get ur shit straight.
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On May 10 2005 22:05 LOcDowN wrote: I appologize if you think I'm dissing on the people of VN. Honestly I'm not, and have no right to. All of my relatives are still in VN so there's no reason for me to diss anyone. It was a simple question, perhaps when I first asked the question it was rude (ok shit it was pretty rude~) but there was no hateful intention behind it. I only hate the commie and what they've taken from us, not VN. I'll never hate my motherland.
yeah at first that what i was thinking but it turns out you weren't like that. Hey but that's a cute appology ^^
ok seriously, young people in VN ( the 198x and 199x ) don't care much about the commie stuff. It's all the past, heads up and be proud that we're vietnamese ^^
By the way viets in America vs viets in Vietnam go go, I'm a bit busy right now but gather your players i could arrange a clanwar like that. Form a team and whoever is the team leader contact me.
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On May 10 2005 20:32 Elvin_vn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2005 18:51 Sky101 wrote: Another stupid ass, by being expensive to live in, it relates to the average income of the people in that city, ok dummy? you are the dummy one. Learn to read please. There is no such thing as "relative to the income" in that web page. And it would be pointless to compare that way jackass. Forget you, arguing with you isn't worth my time.
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On May 10 2005 22:15 azndng wrote:
dude, do you know how stupid you are? FIRST, you say its TOP 10 in the world..THEN you give me facts that say 16th and 14th... know who is the stupid one? come at me when u get ur shit straight. I learned about that in a highschool economic class, and that was years ago. Sure I didn't mention that but my point still stands, Hanoi is more expensive to live in than Saigon.
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Common guys, there is absolutely no need to offend and insult others even when you think they're stupid or disagree with them -.-" Vietnamese people are as well-mannered as Koreans, please prove that to all TLiquiders ^^
About the living cost thing, as far as I know Hanoi is a little more expensive to live than HCMC, and both cities are among the most expensive cities in the world (comparing with the average income). This is no doubt a very sad fact, but fortunately both cities are going down in the Top Expensive Cities list. ^^ But that's enough, this is not the right place to discuss about this kind of topic.
Make game not make war (^_^) v
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Ok, I'm gm ^^
In my opinion, to compare living cost with avarage income is pointless in a way that u MAY have something like "living in Somalia is more expensive than in Tokyo" once the income in Somalia decreases much enough.
The second point is "avarage income" is really not well defined in Vietnam. You don't count people income by their salary. Honestly, I doubt the "official income" that people reported to the survey is really their income.
People in HN and HCM earn money in much more complicated way than in foreign country. Even the tax system is really different too. There is absolutely no way such an accurate income survey could be done in HN/HCM, or it would be really really costy !!
I personally expect that the actual avarage income in HCM and SG is much more than in the report. Thus the living cost (compared to the income) should be much less. HN/HCM is nowhere near the top 10.
About the HN vs HCM, I think they are the same. Each city has items ranged from luxury to cheap so that everyone has a choice. And HN is SLIGHTLY more expensive than HCM, it's really not much.
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OK, enough talk about the damn economy.. its TL.net =)
any vietnamese FROM USA want to have a clan war vs team vietnam?? i think i got 2 pple with me. SKY101, you vietnamese? you from america?? wanna be apart of this or wha?
elvin: how many gamers do you want to bring? 4-5? list maps, games to be played... 1v1 and 2v2?? maybe 3v3 for fun. best of 3 or 5?
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On May 11 2005 20:52 azndng wrote: OK, enough talk about the damn economy.. its TL.net =)
any vietnamese FROM USA want to have a clan war vs team vietnam?? i think i got 2 pple with me. SKY101, you vietnamese? you from america?? wanna be apart of this or wha?
elvin: how many gamers do you want to bring? 4-5? list maps, games to be played... 1v1 and 2v2?? maybe 3v3 for fun. best of 3 or 5?
4 or 5 ups to you, i think we got enough players, but I need sometime to announce and arrange the cw.
List map: WCG maps. We just start to practice on those map and it would be good experience for both of us
I think clanwar should be 4 1vs1 and 1 2vs2 or 5 1vs1 and 2 2vs2. For 3vs3 for fun we can play anytime you want. Come to channel vietnam/asia at weekend.
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oh my, i haven't played the new wcg maps yet.. nor even know what they look like. let me try and gather some tl'ers up then we'll set up a date.
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On May 12 2005 09:49 azndng wrote: oh my, i haven't played the new wcg maps yet.. nor even know what they look like. let me try and gather some tl'ers up then we'll set up a date.
ugh, it's good to play on wcg maps but we can also play on LT, Nostalgia, etc (pgt/wgt maps). Gather up and let me know please.
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Yeah I'm VNese but I'm not very good at SC.
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man, we gonna have a WEAK ass vietnamese american team. ahhaha
i'll play all 5 1v1's ahhaha. j/k
where the vietnamese americans at??
sign up for this! represent USA!!!
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hey, come to vietnam/asia for fun games. We'll do clanwar when you have enough player. I can arrange you guys vs our "secondary team" so it'll be fun too.
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I had my first victory vs th_nh.
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