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Proleague Finals Rank 1st in Viewership - Page 9

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red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
August 21 2011 23:41 GMT
#161
Netizens also showed interest in "Ryu Ji-hye" and "Yellow".


Who is this?
ZeroChrome
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1001 Posts
August 21 2011 23:42 GMT
#162
On August 22 2011 08:41 red4ce wrote:
Show nested quote +
Netizens also showed interest in "Ryu Ji-hye" and "Yellow".


Who is this?


A model who did some ads for OGN and has been seen at some of Flash's games iirc.
Forward
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
August 21 2011 23:43 GMT
#163
On August 22 2011 08:38 marcesr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 06:51 Xiphos wrote:
On August 22 2011 06:46 marcesr wrote:
I dont get what makes you think that this news is as good as it sounds?

Where is the information which proves that BW is doing great? There is no comparison to last year's viewerships nor are there any absolute numbers.

This shouldnt be regarded as a pessimistic comment, I really just dont get it.


Judging from German, your sport is probably soccer or shall I say, football. Are you in high school? If you are, then imagine 2 out of 10 kids in your class talking about Brood War, yeah....


No im not in high school anymore lol, 2 out of 10 kids watching the by far most important match would be a terrible rating for German soccer...so is this all? You judge the state of BW in Korea on this single information?

I mean its a nice fact but I still dont get where the point is which makes people go like "omg BW is still doing great in Korea". So maybe I missed the point in the rest of the news, do the percentage allow any speculation on how many viewers the finals had?

I remember an old news which said that OGN had a market share of about 3% in 2005 and 1,8% in 2008 over an annual period so 1,77% for this event doesnt seem too high or am I mixing up?

You have to look at it for what it is. As mainstream as BW is all eSports is niche. I am going to pull some comparative figures out of my ass now but i don't think i'd be too far off. 2 out of 10 kids watching BW is enormous compared to the..... 1 out of 10000 kids in US watching SC2?
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 21 2011 23:45 GMT
#164
This was the first Proleague final I have watched live. I will watch again next final.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
August 21 2011 23:49 GMT
#165
On August 22 2011 08:38 marcesr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 06:51 Xiphos wrote:
On August 22 2011 06:46 marcesr wrote:
I dont get what makes you think that this news is as good as it sounds?

Where is the information which proves that BW is doing great? There is no comparison to last year's viewerships nor are there any absolute numbers.

This shouldnt be regarded as a pessimistic comment, I really just dont get it.


Judging from German, your sport is probably soccer or shall I say, football. Are you in high school? If you are, then imagine 2 out of 10 kids in your class talking about Brood War, yeah....


No im not in high school anymore lol, 2 out of 10 kids watching the by far most important match would be a terrible rating for German soccer...so is this all? You judge the state of BW in Korea on this single information?

I mean its a nice fact but I still dont get where the point is which makes people go like "omg BW is still doing great in Korea". So maybe I missed the point in the rest of the news, do the percentage allow any speculation on how many viewers the finals had?

I remember an old news which said that OGN had a market share of about 3% in 2005 and 1,8% in 2008 over an annual period so 1,77% for this event doesnt seem too high or am I mixing up?


This also doesn't count people who watched online or as a group. This article is assuming that 1 TV=1 Person also

With the current trend all over the world. More people are tuning in to things online via a stream. So lets take the % as amazing as likely many many many more people were watching online.
Rinnegan5
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands319 Posts
August 22 2011 00:02 GMT
#166
How many viewers did it get outside korea? BW information is allways about inside korea.
petu
Profile Joined July 2010
Finland81 Posts
August 22 2011 00:16 GMT
#167
On August 22 2011 08:49 masterbreti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 08:38 marcesr wrote:
On August 22 2011 06:51 Xiphos wrote:
On August 22 2011 06:46 marcesr wrote:
I dont get what makes you think that this news is as good as it sounds?

Where is the information which proves that BW is doing great? There is no comparison to last year's viewerships nor are there any absolute numbers.

This shouldnt be regarded as a pessimistic comment, I really just dont get it.


Judging from German, your sport is probably soccer or shall I say, football. Are you in high school? If you are, then imagine 2 out of 10 kids in your class talking about Brood War, yeah....


No im not in high school anymore lol, 2 out of 10 kids watching the by far most important match would be a terrible rating for German soccer...so is this all? You judge the state of BW in Korea on this single information?

I mean its a nice fact but I still dont get where the point is which makes people go like "omg BW is still doing great in Korea". So maybe I missed the point in the rest of the news, do the percentage allow any speculation on how many viewers the finals had?

I remember an old news which said that OGN had a market share of about 3% in 2005 and 1,8% in 2008 over an annual period so 1,77% for this event doesnt seem too high or am I mixing up?


This also doesn't count people who watched online or as a group. This article is assuming that 1 TV=1 Person also

With the current trend all over the world. More people are tuning in to things online via a stream. So lets take the % as amazing as likely many many many more people were watching online.


How do you know that it assumes 1 person/tv? Every ratings calculation system that I know of doesn't work like that. And also the 2 of 10 kids number is most likely also 2 of 10 kids who were watching tv at the time of the finals, not overall.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
August 22 2011 00:26 GMT
#168
On August 22 2011 09:02 Rinnegan5 wrote:
How many viewers did it get outside korea? BW information is allways about inside korea.


No traceable amount. The best estimations you can get were by seeing the stream viewers and youtube views for non-chinese foreign interest. Kespa has not shown any intent in extending overseas.
Remember Violet.
hmmm...
Profile Joined March 2011
632 Posts
August 22 2011 01:08 GMT
#169
On August 22 2011 06:46 marcesr wrote:
I dont get what makes you think that this news is as good as it sounds?

Where is the information which proves that BW is doing great? There is no comparison to last year's viewerships nor are there any absolute numbers.

This shouldnt be regarded as a pessimistic comment, I really just dont get it.


look at the context my friend.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10834 Posts
August 22 2011 01:10 GMT
#170
NICE! Long Live Broodwar!! This makes me very happy after seeing so much bad news in the bw forum t.t , I guess this means Broodwar still blows SC2 out of the water in terms of viewers? ^^
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
white_horse
Profile Joined July 2010
1019 Posts
August 22 2011 01:11 GMT
#171
On August 22 2011 09:16 petu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 08:49 masterbreti wrote:
On August 22 2011 08:38 marcesr wrote:
On August 22 2011 06:51 Xiphos wrote:
On August 22 2011 06:46 marcesr wrote:
I dont get what makes you think that this news is as good as it sounds?

Where is the information which proves that BW is doing great? There is no comparison to last year's viewerships nor are there any absolute numbers.

This shouldnt be regarded as a pessimistic comment, I really just dont get it.


Judging from German, your sport is probably soccer or shall I say, football. Are you in high school? If you are, then imagine 2 out of 10 kids in your class talking about Brood War, yeah....


No im not in high school anymore lol, 2 out of 10 kids watching the by far most important match would be a terrible rating for German soccer...so is this all? You judge the state of BW in Korea on this single information?

I mean its a nice fact but I still dont get where the point is which makes people go like "omg BW is still doing great in Korea". So maybe I missed the point in the rest of the news, do the percentage allow any speculation on how many viewers the finals had?

I remember an old news which said that OGN had a market share of about 3% in 2005 and 1,8% in 2008 over an annual period so 1,77% for this event doesnt seem too high or am I mixing up?


This also doesn't count people who watched online or as a group. This article is assuming that 1 TV=1 Person also

With the current trend all over the world. More people are tuning in to things online via a stream. So lets take the % as amazing as likely many many many more people were watching online.


How do you know that it assumes 1 person/tv? Every ratings calculation system that I know of doesn't work like that. And also the 2 of 10 kids number is most likely also 2 of 10 kids who were watching tv at the time of the finals, not overall.


The original article clearly states that 2 out of 10 Korean high school males in the entire country watched the final set. How many times do I have to reclarify this?
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hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
August 22 2011 01:43 GMT
#172
On August 22 2011 09:26 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 09:02 Rinnegan5 wrote:
How many viewers did it get outside korea? BW information is allways about inside korea.


No traceable amount. The best estimations you can get were by seeing the stream viewers and youtube views for non-chinese foreign interest. Kespa has not shown any intent in extending overseas.



considering they were planning on having the finals in china, there is probably a sizable viewership not included in the television statistics or the TL stream.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Turenne
Profile Joined January 2011
331 Posts
August 22 2011 02:00 GMT
#173
....and this is why SC2 will never ever top BW. No one in Korea cares about SC2 - BW forever.
mansa
Profile Joined May 2011
Philippines336 Posts
August 22 2011 02:25 GMT
#174
Wow great news! I do hope BW will live longer... IMO the only way to make eSports viable is to have a single game lasting for many years like...
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
August 22 2011 02:36 GMT
#175
On August 22 2011 09:02 Rinnegan5 wrote:
How many viewers did it get outside korea? BW information is allways about inside korea.


To be fair (I'm assuming) most of the foreigners watched from the TL features streams, and those got like 2000 at most so it doesn't really matter (onpaper).
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
zyzski
Profile Joined May 2010
United States698 Posts
August 22 2011 02:37 GMT
#176
and this was rescheduled too. sick!
TYBG
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
August 22 2011 02:47 GMT
#177
On August 22 2011 11:36 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 09:02 Rinnegan5 wrote:
How many viewers did it get outside korea? BW information is allways about inside korea.


To be fair (I'm assuming) most of the foreigners watched from the TL features streams, and those got like 2000 at most so it doesn't really matter (onpaper).


the max was around 4000 viewers -_-
ace hwaiting!!
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
August 22 2011 03:01 GMT
#178
On August 22 2011 11:47 soujiro_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 11:36 Gamegene wrote:
On August 22 2011 09:02 Rinnegan5 wrote:
How many viewers did it get outside korea? BW information is allways about inside korea.


To be fair (I'm assuming) most of the foreigners watched from the TL features streams, and those got like 2000 at most so it doesn't really matter (onpaper).


the max was around 4000 viewers -_-


"achieving a max viewership ratio of 2.514% (21% of males aged 16-19). In other words, 2 out of every 10 male Korean high school students watched the last set of the Proleague final."

Oh I'm sorry, I can see how 4000 extra eyes can make a notable difference in comparison to Korean viewership.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
August 22 2011 03:05 GMT
#179
im just saying that your data was a lil off =)
ace hwaiting!!
minisockey
Profile Joined June 2011
99 Posts
August 22 2011 03:25 GMT
#180
anyone no where to watch these games?
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