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Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
March 20 2005 11:15 GMT
#21
So then q-tip, maybe you can enlighten us with a replay worthy of your time, if you have an even better replay than this i'm sure we would all like to see it, besides you watched a 75 min long replay in 10 mins, thats like 8x speed, and you try to criticize everything of it.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
GosuAmerican
Profile Joined February 2005
United States347 Posts
March 20 2005 11:24 GMT
#22
omg this is so sweet.
Nothing Succeeds Like Success. #1 [ReD]Nada Fan. GL Pat. Live PGT
ItchReliever
Profile Joined April 2004
2489 Posts
March 20 2005 11:34 GMT
#23
some nice defiler use, but the way zerg played really frustrated me as a zerg player!

zerg should have won! ;(
MPXMX
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada4309 Posts
March 20 2005 12:14 GMT
#24
On March 20 2005 19:35 FroZZoR wrote:
I think the real problem is zerg went fucking HYDRA LING with swarm which is totally retarded... save the gas and get ultras... also he has 1/1 so....


I think when you use plague, thats a more effective combo. He just used a different approach which seemed quite effective too. He was running a bunch of depleted gases which couldn't so easily allow for lurker/defiler/scourge or ultra/defiler/scourge

I think the zerg would certainly have won if he had taken both islands soon after taking 9.
Resse
Profile Joined December 2004
307 Posts
March 20 2005 12:17 GMT
#25
The one thing that struck me about this game was ther zerg's near perfect macro while constantly attacking the terran all game.
previousemperor
Profile Joined July 2004
Canada271 Posts
March 20 2005 12:25 GMT
#26
check out zerg's hot keys in bwchart , fucking amazing
`Majority of our imports come from other countries.` - George W. Bush
Moggle
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada327 Posts
March 20 2005 14:00 GMT
#27
Aww geez, how did you guys find this rep of me?











But seriously, thats some crazy action.
Moggle @ USWest. I hate Spore Colonies!
stimpack[pG]
Profile Joined November 2004
Philippines88 Posts
March 20 2005 14:23 GMT
#28
very gg! y dont you guys appreciate how the T played his so damn good!
1ntoTheNydus
Profile Joined March 2005
United States41 Posts
March 20 2005 14:53 GMT
#29
if nothing else does, this proves that there is a god. Even being a kinda noobish zerg (<<<very noobish zerg), i can see that this is friggin zerg art. I've never been more inspired. And who gives a damn if they each made a few mistakes? That was the most entertaining replay I've ever seen. I'd kill a puppy to be able to macro like that.............there were so many dark swarms it was actally funny. :D
Its not polution thats harming our environment. Its the impurities in our air and water that are doing it!.....quoth Al Gore
Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
March 20 2005 15:08 GMT
#30
i agree that the zerg played the best this game, but the terran wasnt bad. He was never able to attack because he was attacked CONSTANTLY. My guess is this is a very good player who decided already from the start that he would focus on macro/micro swarm/plague than actually winning the game. If you want to win zvt you make ultra/ling and secure the islands even earlier than the other main/ other natural. I guess he wanted to prove he could win without using ultra at all. I want to point out i was impressed by the micro/macro of both players especially zerg, but not by zergs decisions, also zerg wasted a decent amount of scourges which is pretty crucial.

This is among the very best replays i have seen, and i would give it 9/10.
Live2Win is awesome. Happy new year scarabi!
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-03-20 15:57:32
March 20 2005 15:56 GMT
#31
Very well watched, Zerg mad some stupid mistakes he should have won..great macro performance
Only if he had islands ..
uhjoo
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)1740 Posts
March 20 2005 15:57 GMT
#32
FYI the terran here is a past winner of "salaryman star league" which is a televised competition on ongamenet for older amateurs who have normal jobs (so most of them are like late 20's early 30's, even 40 somethings compete in the tournament). There are alot of things I liked about this replay, and to be specific:

1) At some point (I think around the 30 min mark or so), there was a meta-psychological game of "I'm going to do this, and you're going to do that, and let's fight it out and see who is more stubborn." I agree with Guybrush that the Z didn't want to give in and go ultras. At a certain point you want to win using some specific unit mix/strat instead of just plain winning. That to me is art.

2) When a player makes mistakes or behaves in a certain way, it's usually due to what the other player does. This replay is a good example of that: they were reacting to each other. Sure there are mistakes by both players-- the terran doesn't use all his resources effectively (to which some people say "bad macro"). Also, you might say the terran seemed to be playing "passively"-- but hey, it's because the z was so damn aggressive. I mean, try fending off wave after wave of those attacks, barely surviving, then rallying to push toward a base? Give credit to the z's play if the terran seemed less than eager to push out. He must have figured, if I could hold on long enough, I'll eventually starve him out, and if I eat around the same amount of resources as the Z, I'll win.

And on the other hand sure the zerg doesn't have 3/3 units. But macroing from 7 hatches or so, constantly microing defilers (which is some of the most difficult control in sc), trying to hunt vessels with scourge, etc., due to the terran's very good defense means something has to give-- in this case it was upgrades. But really, it's also a function of the fact his pumping units was so efficient that he rarely had enough mins/gas! The Z's macro is really art-- this is no 3000 mins/2000 gas waiting for ultra cavern to finish wait for big center fight unit massing zerg. Very refreshing play indeed.
i want bubbles the warrior monkey back
HeadBangaa
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
March 20 2005 16:15 GMT
#33
This replay sounds so good I'm about to reinstall starcraft just to watch the fucking replay....
People who fail to distinguish Socratic Method from malicious trolling are sadly stupid and not worth a response.
Liquid`Daaman
Profile Joined January 2003
Sweden1225 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-03-20 16:50:56
March 20 2005 16:16 GMT
#34
wawa~~

had the zerg cared to keep his islands in the first place he most certainly would've won playing like that.

and yeah, shouldve just had a better check on the 12 main too (that's a mistake i made once myself in a fucking important game=O)
Comfortably Numb
camooT
Profile Joined October 2004
United States1354 Posts
March 20 2005 16:28 GMT
#35
Why no drop until halfway through the game? Would've made a world of difference, IMO. That was one of the best games I've seen, though.
SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
March 20 2005 16:45 GMT
#36
The replay is good, but it pisses me off at the same time. The zerg deserved to win that game so much more than the terran. But because terran is a gay race, they won anyway.
uhjoo
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)1740 Posts
March 20 2005 17:00 GMT
#37
On March 21 2005 01:45 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
The replay is good, but it pisses me off at the same time. The zerg deserved to win that game so much more than the terran. But because terran is a gay race, they won anyway.


:D

since the results were spoiled awhile back anyway, i'll agree: i must say i agree that the zerg deserved to win the game 100%. but on the other hand, losing like this is sort of like winning... i know i'll keep an eye out for more evisu replays in the future, whereas akaraka seemed solid but not spectacular. great losses are better than boring victories! (foru on river of flames anyone? )
i want bubbles the warrior monkey back
WhizKid77
Profile Joined November 2003
China682 Posts
March 20 2005 17:34 GMT
#38
anyone else crashing repeatedly around the 23 min mark?
hay guys u thare???
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
March 20 2005 18:09 GMT
#39
Everyone I played that AKARAKA guy I got annoyed by his massive turtling.

It's all he does, and this zerg had a retarded way of losing to it. Hello?! He tried saving his main by nydussing drones to his island! Drones fightingg~!!

Sure, 'nice' rep for people who don't get frustrated by stupid play. I myself thought it was a waste and I agree partly to that qtip guy (or what's his name).
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no.1
Profile Joined March 2004
516 Posts
March 20 2005 18:41 GMT
#40
sorry but it's boring
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