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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
July 20 2011 06:31 GMT
#301
On July 20 2011 15:04 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 14:54 ArvickHero wrote:
On July 20 2011 14:44 GTR wrote:
On July 20 2011 14:42 ndralcasid wrote:
Is it just me, or does anyone else thinks the STX players aren't exactly happy about this? This is pretty much one giant fuck you from the manager to the players. Coupled with the "no players on the bench" incident last year, and STX is pretty much my least favorite team at this point


actually, what's ironic is that (as mentioned by someone earlier), in other sports, the coach is usually the one given the sack, but stx have so much faith on kim eun-dong (cause he's been at the team since its creation) that they'd rather trade the team than to let him go, lol.

not even with just other sports, but other teams as well. SKT and KT have had their founding coaches and staff sacked and did very well soon afterwards. I believe Oz had their founding head-coach sacked too.


no, old coach cho retired (he had a hot wife as well, can't blame him).
their new one was the old performance coach (and ex semi-pro, fighter[name])

but yes, kt (and wemade/pantech) are the two teams most notorious for their merry-go-round of head coaches.

KT has themselves a keeper though. KT's coaching staff is nothing short of fucking brillaint imo (same goes with SKT and CJ). Wemade's coaching staff however.........
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Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
July 20 2011 06:31 GMT
#302
Ugh, I hope no one from OZ gets traded. Even though they lack a Terran, I doubt Bogus, Classic or Last would fit into the team.
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
July 20 2011 06:36 GMT
#303
I think the idea is to trade their veterans for young guys. That means Kal and Calm. While they are underperforming, they are very accomplished. A team looking for a real playoff push in 2012 would consider investing a promising rookie for the established veteran. I think STX will eye Khan for this reason. Khan was in the lower end of the playoffs, and having an inform Kal or Calm would greatly help them next year. They have a lot of rookies and 2-3 year players they could unload.

Don't underestimate Kal's trade value. Physically, he is the youngest of the dragons. While free and Stork have the age problem, Kal is actually younger than Bisu and there is still plenty of time for him to recover to top form.

STX will not trade Bogus, that would be suicide. His potential is too strong. STX wants the young guys, I'm sure of it.
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eNtitY~
Profile Joined January 2007
United States1293 Posts
July 20 2011 06:38 GMT
#304
What the fuck?
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tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
July 20 2011 06:45 GMT
#305
This could actually be a good thing for the industry. Right now there are very few player rights and most are fixed in their position with little room for raises/negotiation rights due to iron-clad free agency rules and institutionalized lack of trading.

I would love to see most teams opening up their rosters to trades and to aggressively attempt to improve their lineups - this would create more demand for players and likely improve their career options.
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Toadily
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States837 Posts
July 20 2011 06:47 GMT
#306
Maybe this is going to be the wake-up call some of the underachieving player need to play better.
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-20 07:23:39
July 20 2011 06:49 GMT
#307
Way to be dicks, guys.
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VeryAverage
Profile Joined January 2011
United States424 Posts
July 20 2011 06:50 GMT
#308
I'm selling my car so I can buy Tossgirl.
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
July 20 2011 06:53 GMT
#309
It's just trades right? Like one player for another?

Maybe they can get someone good for Kal or something.
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Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
July 20 2011 06:57 GMT
#310
First match between KT and STX:

They lost because Kal lost to an inferior player, Calm lost to an inferior player in his best matchup and Classic lost to an inferior player in his best matchup.

3rd match between KT and STX:

Hyvaa loses to HoeJJa (hyvaa is better in ZvZ), Classic loses to BarrackS (Classic is better in TvT) and finally Kal loses to Crazy-Hydra.

WTF is this. How can you be satisfied with the team when this is happening. I'd never say that they aren't "bad" or anything. They are BAD. That's it. They just lose to teams with inferior lineups. How can this be not bad. Yeah, this may be a bold move for e-sports but totally understandable in STX's point of view.
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a7choi
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1664 Posts
July 20 2011 06:58 GMT
#311
wow this is fucking crazy!! bogus to KT please :D they can use a new terran
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5185 Posts
July 20 2011 07:03 GMT
#312
I'll trade my kitten vs tossgirl then.
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Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-20 07:09:11
July 20 2011 07:08 GMT
#313
Looks like mustaju removed his icon. Dunno why he deleted his post though. Was something like: "Tell me it's not true. Please. Please. T_T"

On July 20 2011 15:50 VeryAverage wrote:
I'm selling my car so I can buy Tossgirl.

She is only worth your car? Tz
HawaiianPig
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada5155 Posts
July 20 2011 07:08 GMT
#314
On July 20 2011 11:52 Milkis wrote:
Another source claims that STX is not considering cash trades. Fun. Removed that line from OP.


Welp. That rules out Calm to SKT.

Dang! :D
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moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
July 20 2011 07:11 GMT
#315
Ryo, my comment earlier was not intended to be mean in any way.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3455 Posts
July 20 2011 07:14 GMT
#316
What the hax is this?
STX was my fav team.
These are some strange times.
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
July 20 2011 07:14 GMT
#317
On July 20 2011 11:01 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
TOSSGIRL FOR SALE??????

Aha well played, I like how that is the first thing you think of. I think STX is currently doing decent at the moment with some players, but if the coach thinks some changes are made for the team to live, then so be it.
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zmeqt
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria527 Posts
July 20 2011 07:23 GMT
#318
On July 20 2011 11:49 gds wrote:
Why all the love for Bogus? He's not a bad player of course, he won most of his last 10 games but if you go just a little bit deeper on his record list it's not that impressive imo.

What are you talking aboout?Bogus is a super rookie,probably top3 terran in years to come.
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Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
July 20 2011 07:27 GMT
#319
On July 20 2011 16:23 zmeqt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 11:49 gds wrote:
Why all the love for Bogus? He's not a bad player of course, he won most of his last 10 games but if you go just a little bit deeper on his record list it's not that impressive imo.

What are you talking aboout?Bogus is a super rookie,probably top3 terran in years to come.

Huh? What are you talking about? Bogus isn't a rookie.
VeryAverage
Profile Joined January 2011
United States424 Posts
July 20 2011 07:29 GMT
#320
On July 20 2011 16:08 Lucumo wrote:
Looks like mustaju removed his icon. Dunno why he deleted his post though. Was something like: "Tell me it's not true. Please. Please. T_T"

Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 15:50 VeryAverage wrote:
I'm selling my car so I can buy Tossgirl.

She is only worth your car? Tz


To be fair I have a very nice car.
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