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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
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In which order will the games be played, ABCD, AC and BD?
And thanks for this, was wondering when these would be played.
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Somehow, Calm is terrible but before anyone realizes it, he's in the Ro8 of every individual league. Blows my mind.
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
ABCD on Day 1
AC on Day 2
BD on Day 3
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Baa?21243 Posts
On May 09 2011 17:37 doothegee wrote:
Somehow, Calm is terrible but before anyone realizes it, he's in the Ro8 of every individual league. Blows my mind.
So, he's not terrible.
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Calm beat Zero, then defeats Jaedong in Bo5 in Ro4 again! Repeat of Avalon MSL ! I BELIEVE IN YOU CALM!
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On May 09 2011 17:41 aznagent wrote:
Calm beat Zero, then defeats Jaedong in Bo5 in Ro4 again! Repeat of Avalon MSL ! I BELIEVE IN YOU CALM!
Theres no kwanro.....
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Jaedong/Zero/Hydra/Leta fighting!
Flash will probably win against Leta though
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Netherlands45349 Posts
Jaedong>>Grape, Grape is a rookie, quite good but in the end no match for the Dong(like Reality).
Calm>>Zero, Zero's ZvZ is shaky wheras Calm has a solid ZvZ(should give Jaedong a run for his money too-.-).
Mind>>Hydra, because someone has to stop this guy, and Hydra's ZvT is very very unstable.
Flash>Leta, Leta might be a cool guy, a crossdresser, and cute, but he is no match for god in a TvT Bo3..
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GOGO GOD YOUNG HO!! this msl is yours! ><
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wtf is with ur KT sig. No KTFlash fan should ever doubt Flash
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Bo5 TvT - it doesn't get much better then that.
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My wishes/prediction
Jaedong>Grape 3-0 ezpz
Calm<Zero. 1-3. Doesn't really matter since neither of them can beat Jaedong in a BoX, but in the 1% chance they do, Zero would give Flash a better fight in the finals
Mind<Hydra. 2-3. I'd actually put Mind as the favorite since Hydra's ZvT isn't that great, but it would be more appropriate for the co-creator of the group of Death to be knocked out by Flash
Flash>Leta 3-0 ezpz
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Yay! Another Flash TvT! against Leta! on a Bo5! So exciting unlike Clam vs Zero-_-.
EDIT: Would A winner face B winner and C winner face D winner on Ro4? or A faces C and B faces D?
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Mind Fighting! :D
It'd be rather funny if Grape beats Jaedong, Leta beats Flash, Mind beats Hydra, and Zero beats Calm. All be upsets and would probably cause the ABCMart Sponsors to want to jump off a building because of the drastic decrease in potential audience with Flash/Jaedong out. :p
Thinking that Jaedong beats Grape 3-1, Flash beats Leta 3-2, Mind beats Hydra 3-1, and Calm beats Zero 3-0.
Calm actually does have a good shot to get to the finals if he makes it against Jaedong in the semis given that he has beaten Jaedong in a ZvZ Bo5 before.
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On May 09 2011 17:51 Creationism wrote:wtf is with ur KT sig. No KTFlash fan should ever doubt Flash
loll seriously... and jaedong by 3-0.. lol -_-
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Looks like calm has a good chance of getting into top 4 again.
I really hope Leta can beat Flash.... but it probably won't happen
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leta got flash? gosh darnit >: [
i guess it was inevitable that he'd run into either flash or jd at some point, but i was hoping he could at least make it to the ro4
hopefully he will give flash a good series
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seeing zero play against zergs is frustrating :/
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Thanks for posting Roffles :>
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On May 09 2011 17:37 doothegee wrote:
Somehow, Calm is terrible but before anyone realizes it, he's in the Ro8 of every individual league. Blows my mind.
Calm is second only to Jaedong in terms of Zerg individual league success since the fall of Savior. He's certainly not terrible. It's just that sometimes Clam takes over.
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On May 09 2011 17:51 Creationism wrote:wtf is with ur KT sig. No KTFlash fan should ever doubt Flash
Interestingly there are other players on KT than Flash. That might be a difficult concept for some people to grasp, but it is true.
I hope Leta beats Flash. I don't think he can, but I sure hope he does...
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Ok,
Jaedong : Grape
Calm : ZerO
Mind : Hydra
Leta : Flash
CJ <3
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On May 09 2011 17:39 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 17:37 doothegee wrote:
Somehow, Calm is terrible but before anyone realizes it, he's in the Ro8 of every individual league. Blows my mind. So, he's not terrible.
Hey, I did this totally original research the other day and found out that calm is one of the more consistent finishers in league play, often making ro8 and ro4. Man, he's so bad.
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On May 09 2011 19:07 Crisium wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 17:37 doothegee wrote:
Somehow, Calm is terrible but before anyone realizes it, he's in the Ro8 of every individual league. Blows my mind. Calm is second only to Jaedong in terms of Zerg individual league success since the fall of Savior. He's certainly not terrible. It's just that sometimes Clam takes over.
Watch his game vs. Piano from a few hours ago as soon as you get the chance. I used to be a huge Calm fan, but these days he is putting out some absolutely awful games and I'm not really sure what to make of it any more.
The aforementioned game is the worst game I've seen since 2002
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Hmm, i can see Leta winning TvT against Flash, but its not going to be easy. Calm vs Zero is pretty interesting match.
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predictions:
calm> zero
grape > jaedong
leta> flash
hydra>mind
grape > calm
leta > hydra
grape > hydra ROYAL ROADAH!
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On May 09 2011 21:26 Iplaythings wrote:
predictions:
calm> zero
grape > jaedong
leta> flash
hydra>mind
grape > calm
leta > hydra
grape > hydra ROYAL ROADAH!
Actually if Grape becomes champion that'll be pretty fine for me.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
3 zergs 1 terran to be in semi-finals
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On May 09 2011 17:47 Kipsate wrote:
Jaedong>>Grape, Grape is a rookie, quite good but in the end no match for the Dong(like Reality).
Calm>>Zero, Zero's ZvZ is shaky wheras Calm has a solid ZvZ(should give Jaedong a run for his money too-.-).
Mind>>Hydra, because someone has to stop this guy, and Hydra's ZvT is very very unstable.
Flash>Leta, Leta might be a cool guy, a crossdresser, and cute, but he is no match for god in a TvT Bo3..
hmmm so sad about leta
always fall on a brick wall called flash
but to be honest its not as impossible job as u put it
flash is somehow not in his sharpest moments lately (even if its meaningless losses they still show some cracks in the armor)
+ leta has been doing very good lately not to mention he has been doing "relatively" ok vs flash
(relatively ok in terms of show me other players that has any more than 4 wins vs flash ? beside fantasy)
if it were to be a bo3 i'd even risk by saying he has a decent shot but its a bo5 so i give him 10 %
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On May 09 2011 21:58 konadora wrote:
3 zergs 1 terran to be in semi-finals
"Same procedure as every year"
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The most frustrating thing about Calm is that he really doesn't play that smart at all for someone called the "Brain Zerg". Even when Calm was at his height Zero and Effort were consistently showing smarter strategy and tactics than him.
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I ate a grape and I __________
GRAPE FIGHTING
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I missed it, so can anyone explain to me the reasoning behind that type of schedule ? (I mean set 1 one day then the rest later)
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WHY CANT I SAY MAKE MY TEXT SIZE BIGGER SO I CAN SAY GO LETA LOUDER
(not a leta fan boy.... just want flash to pay for knocking bisu out ^^)
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On May 09 2011 22:53 MrCon wrote:
I missed it, so can anyone explain to me the reasoning behind that type of schedule ? (I mean set 1 one day then the rest later)
Epic. Hype.
I always liked the slower BW schedule compared to the too-fast-but-not-lan-party-fast GSL pace.
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United States10155 Posts
LOLOLOL!!!!! Grape vs JD xD
FlaSh>Leta 3-0
Mind<Hydra 2-3
Clam<Zero 1-3
Grape<JD 0-3
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JD>grape
zero>calm
mind>hydra
flash>leta
JD>zero
flash>mind
JD>flash
Still rooting for zero and grape though.
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I have a feeling that the final four will have 3 zergs and an godly terran. JvF here we go again!
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out of all of those player I most want to see calm take another MSL 
or Mind
or hydra
really not jaedong or flash though :\ sorry
but regardless I sense the final will be TvZ but as to which terran or zerg. it's hard to say.
anything could happen if people tries to cheese or prepare special builds.
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Russian Federation63 Posts
My prediction: no protosses in Ro4
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Dong seems to have the easiest matchup. He said that he wants to show off his ZvP so I think we will see some stellar Starcarft.
Potential Hydra vs Flash semifinals coming. That's gonna be awesome.
Also potential JvZ in semis is gonna scare the shit out of me. What's JD's ZvZ for this year? Like 50% or something :/
epic JvF finals seem very possible, that's a day I must not miss. Might have to cancel my holiday trip to Crete for it.
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Jaedong will cross through Grape like it's nothing, but then he'll have to play a ZvZ.
I really hope he brings his JvZ game out because I don't want him to lose to ZerO or Calm and deny us a FvJ finals.
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Jaedong > Grape
Calm > Zero
Hydra > Mind
Flash > Leta
Jaedong > Calm
Flash > Hydra
Jaedong > Flash
But a Jaedong vs Hydra finals would be epic too.
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3-0's are so boring =\
But I kinda have unrealistic expectations for JvF finals - I always hope to watch the best ZvT of all throughout history, something mankind has yet to set their eyes on.... so far I've been reasonably disappointed and pleased : \
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Leta's PL play has been pretty abyssal as of late, glad he atleast made it ro8. hopefully take atleast 1 game off of flash
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Why everybody thinks that Jaedong will steamroll Flash? I think most people forget who Lee Young Ho is.
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On May 09 2011 18:49 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
seeing zero play against zergs is frustrating :/
This. I'd much rather see his baller ZvT in a bo5 for once...
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I can't see Grape beating Jaedong in a Bo5.
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Let's go Jaedong! That golden badge is yours. Just bring JvZ back. Please?
As for the rest, I'm hoping for ZerO, Mind and Leta. That would be pretty awesome.
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Can't believe it's the Ro8 again already :D Go Jaedong!
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On May 09 2011 22:38 koreasilver wrote:
The most frustrating thing about Calm is that he really doesn't play that smart at all for someone called the "Brain Zerg". Even when Calm was at his height Zero and Effort were consistently showing smarter strategy and tactics than him.
I think Calm has single one-off games and series where he plays brilliantly, especially when he has a chance to prepare. I remember the one game (don't remember against who) on FS where he lined up his Overlords perfectly (which required planning this from the start) to clear mines all the way from his base to the opponent's, thus being able to seize a timing window and win the game. He also beat Jaedong in a bo5 almost purely off of preparation, which is truly impressive given the nature of ZvZ.
However, I totally agree that Zero and Effort are better players (Zero is almost as erratic though). Both Zero and Effort have vastly superior fundamentals and at his peak Effort has no peer other than the Dong (who truly has no peer).
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I guess I'll just be watching group A.
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Oh my god... I feel SOOOOOO bad for Zero =( =( =( T_T_T_T_T_T
The guy is like forever fated to fall. He's ALWAYS matched up against zergs, haha...
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LOL
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/BvkHa.jpg)
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Jaedong's side of the bracket looks uninteresting. I think Leta, Mind and Hydra would all give Jaedong a better run for the money. It would be epic if Hydra dealt with Mind, then beat Flash in the semis and Jaedong in the finals. That should silent certain ppl. Beating Flash seems impossible, but if Effort can do it, Hydra can. Hydra vs Flash would be a epic series nonetheless.
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On May 10 2011 01:49 ninini wrote:
Jaedong's side of the bracket looks uninteresting. I think Leta, Mind and Hydra would all give Jaedong a better run for the money. It would be epic if Hydra dealt with Mind, then beat Flash in the semis and Jaedong in the finals. That should silent certain ppl. Beating Flash seems impossible, but if Effort can do it, Hydra can. Hydra vs Flash would be a epic series nonetheless. Uuu how? Effort really cant hold his own lategame against terran so it would likely be a cheese/allin fest.. not a terribly inspiring match imo
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lots of people seem to be looking at flash vs leta as an insta-win, but I think Leta has a great shot...
I do smell a Flash vs JD finals though... as long as JD can figure out why he couldn't win a single muta battle vs Hydra in their last boX series.
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On May 10 2011 07:58 slappy wrote:
lots of people seem to be looking at flash vs leta as an insta-win, but I think Leta has a great shot...
I do smell a Flash vs JD finals though... as long as JD can figure out why he couldn't win a single muta battle vs Hydra in their last boX series.
yeah, whenever I see jaedong vs a zerg I used to always think "lol easy win for him" now its "oh god i hope he can". His zvz has been losing a lot lately :/. Hopefully doesn't happen vs zero once he beats grape (hopefully!)
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On May 09 2011 17:42 ReketSomething wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 17:41 aznagent wrote:
Calm beat Zero, then defeats Jaedong in Bo5 in Ro4 again! Repeat of Avalon MSL ! I BELIEVE IN YOU CALM! Theres no kwanro.....
mind will suffice i think
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ZerO the 3:2 king? 
Gogo FvJ finals!
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So yet another FvJ finals possible? Oh yes oh yes. Can't wait. :D
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I hope somehow Hydra can squeeze past Mind to Ro4 so he can be destroyed by Flash for making group of death.
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Let's be honest, we all want to see FvJ in the finals where both of them have a Golden Badge on the line, and the winner surpasses the other's gold count. You can't get much more epic than that.
Survive till the finals, Flash, Jaedong!
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GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
Id like to see either a JvF or Zero make it to the finals! Its the ultimate test of not choking, you can do it this time Zero!
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Did they say which maps were thumbed down?
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Go Grape!
Semi finals with only T/Z is so boring...
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Somehow I am very excited to see Grape against Jaedong, lol I am REALLY REALLY like OMG really surprised to see him even here. First he got out MST by beating Killer twice (Killer is a competent PvZ player) and he beat Hero (who is a beast at PvZ) and then he CAME back from a 0-1 deficit (I haven't SEE annybody doing that) from Horang2 (PvP bonjwa). And now he is put into the real test facing the Tyrant himself. I think the reason why Stork lost all these games is because he is transmuting his skills over to Grape!
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On May 10 2011 01:48 whiterabb1t wrote:LOL
Probably a fan of Chojja and Yellow and a hater of all things Terran.
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fuck leta, we could have SK vs flash in a bo5
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Japan11286 Posts
I'm rooting for grape even though I know there is a really small chance that he will beat the DONG, the next guy and most probably (like 99.99%) Flash in the finals. Damn, I don't like the odds at all.
But I believe... for AIUR!!!
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Sigh Zero...!
He can win it all! He just needs to be a little more mature mentally.
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Does someone know which maps were thumbed down by each player? Always good to know which maps each player doesn't feel comfortable with for future predictions.
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On May 09 2011 17:37 doothegee wrote:
Somehow, Calm is terrible but before anyone realizes it, he's in the Ro8 of every individual league. Blows my mind.
ZvZ, dude. Look at Calm's games since Hana Daetoo. It doesn't happen in the OSL because you play more opponents there in the group stages.
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Dear Jaedong, plz pull off a GGPlay, against Flash. K. Thanks. Bye.
Also, plz don't play ZvZ, JvZ is much more impressive.
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Haha
I love how they managed to split up Flash and JD on separate days (regardless of whether it was lucky or planned).
The MSL staff are probably partying with soju and grilling some korean bbq, especially after Hydra gave them the scare of their lives with that Group of Death thing hahaha
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On May 13 2011 10:50 NobleHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 17:37 doothegee wrote:
Somehow, Calm is terrible but before anyone realizes it, he's in the Ro8 of every individual league. Blows my mind. ZvZ, dude. Look at Calm's games since Hana Daetoo. It doesn't happen in the OSL because you play more opponents there in the group stages.
His ZvZ isn't even that great
Still his individual performance is impressive.
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Baa?21243 Posts
On May 13 2011 11:46 FakePlasticLove wrote:
His ZvZ isn't even that great
Yes it is lol.
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On May 09 2011 17:47 Kipsate wrote:
Jaedong>>Grape, Grape is a rookie, quite good but in the end no match for the Dong(like Reality).
Calm>>Zero, Zero's ZvZ is shaky wheras Calm has a solid ZvZ(should give Jaedong a run for his money too-.-).
Mind>>Hydra, because someone has to stop this guy, and Hydra's ZvT is very very unstable.
Flash>Leta, Leta might be a cool guy, a crossdresser, and cute, but he is no match for god in a TvT Bo3..
I don't know. If there's anyone I'd think could take a series from Flash in TvT, Leta would be up high on my list...
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On May 13 2011 11:41 Keone wrote:
Haha
I love how they managed to split up Flash and JD on separate days (regardless of whether it was lucky or planned).
The MSL staff are probably partying with soju and grilling some korean bbq, especially after Hydra gave them the scare of their lives with that Group of Death thing hahaha
It's by kespa rank. Highest ranked on kespa faces lowest rank, second highest faces second lowest, etc. It just so happens that Jaedong is first, flash is third, and fantasy is already eliminated, so flash and jaedong won't face unless they both get to finals.
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EPT
Jaedong vs 
Grape
Mind vs 
