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Note: Please do not post your teams in this thread unless you add a lot of analysis about it. This is a thread about discussion, not signups, so there will be no spam posting of just your FPL team here. Thanks!
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-21 09:15:17
April 21 2011 09:12 GMT
#181
Errr should I remove those removed from roster? I'm going to at least update those who changed teams I suppose -__-

Okay not removing but roster updated for team-changing people. Not sure if that's going to affect anybody though.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
GG_NO_RE
Profile Joined October 2009
Japan238 Posts
April 21 2011 09:43 GMT
#182
On April 21 2011 18:12 flamewheel wrote:
Errr should I remove those removed from roster? I'm going to at least update those who changed teams I suppose -__-

Okay not removing but roster updated for team-changing people. Not sure if that's going to affect anybody though.

i hope that you remove them since they won't play.. the ability to anti-team people who have zero chance of playing just seems a bit suspect..
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
April 21 2011 10:18 GMT
#183
considering that registration closes in less than two days, I think you should make a decision soon. I would be very sad if modesty was disallowed 2 hours before teams are due, and I missed out.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Imperator
Profile Joined June 2009
United States246 Posts
April 21 2011 12:14 GMT
#184
We are not removing any players from the current roster.
LiquipediaAll war is deception. Think your enemy has a weakness and it becomes his strength. - Roy Mustang | CJ Entusman #55
night terrors
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China1284 Posts
April 21 2011 20:44 GMT
#185
What do you guys (Craton) make out of choosing out of the six pointers? I see Light being used a lot by Stars as the terran ace, Snow seems a sure choice for CJ but has been playing kinda lackluster lately, Leta is solid on all thee matchups (providing that his vP gets better he will be very good). Then theres Soulkeywho is a favorite on Stars and RorO who will surely be played by FOX since its a bo7 format, both good all around players that will se playtime. I find Calm, Killer and Bogus overpriced, and HiyA seems a bit pricey too, he'd be better at 5 i think.

They all seem to be able to get ACE playtime, and none is a definite ACE too. What do you guys think?
Through high and low, bisu boy, through high and low.
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
April 21 2011 20:53 GMT
#186
roro won't be worth it. Good enough to cripple the anti, but not to be on a main team. I don't think he will get any ace.

Light and soulkey are solid picks.

Hiya leta and calm are risky. calm might do well if kal slumps hard, and he can pick up all of the aces. I would have put snow in the solid category, but CJ hasn't played him a lot, so he is somewhat risky, with a small upside for 6 points.

Agree that killer and bogus are overpriced. Both are strong contenders for the anti, but killer seems worse.

In my opinion anyway.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Dandy4
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States493 Posts
April 21 2011 21:14 GMT
#187
I actually put Light on my anti seeing as it isn't WL anymore and also don't think he fully adjusted/ happy with his new team
Who let the dogs out?
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3615 Posts
April 21 2011 21:18 GMT
#188
How is analysis possible when your team is a random/fanboy creation? Hold on a minute and I'll show you:

Zing!

Main Team
1 (T)Last
6 (T)Leta
6 (T)Light (captain)
3 (T)Lomo
1 (P)Lucifer
8 (Z)ZerO
5 Woongjin

Anti Team
5 (Z)Action
4 (Z)hero
4 (P)Jangbi

You may have noticed a theme. After trying to concoct several winning formulas for my first FPL, this time I've given up. So, my thought process:

1) I chose a team first. I decided to pick up Woongjin for several reasons. First, roster. ZerO + free + Light + Really + Soulkey is absolutely stacked... at least in theory. Second, fanboy! free's my favorite player and Woongjin's my team. Of course, they could crash, which brings me to 3... Woongjin's currently below average, so they're due for a winning round because they believe in being average.

2) Given that decision, I also chose a good player from Woongjin: Light. Invisible Terran ahoy! And then I decided to choose Leta because it's Leta and his MSL was good.

3) ...and then I abandoned all reason and decided to run with the theme. LuCifer is not good, but Pure is inconsistent so he'll probably see play time and might win some games. So that's okay. Last is also bad, but is a TvT/large map sniper for STX so might see some time... and if not STX has a good lineup so I'll at least get points from wins. Lomo's the silliest pick: with Killer and HiyA stepping up he's not going to be played even though it ought to be him and Anytime splitting time. But I needed the theme! Plus he might win random games and OZ should be okay.

4) That left me with one spot, no Zerg, and 8 points. That meant either Hydra or ZerO. Hydra's probably better, and he doesn't have awful ZvZ... but he hasn't beaten Flash recently either. ZerO's amazing when he's on his game. And STARS! Plus I feel like Woongin's supporting cast ought to be better, or at least deeper, than Entus's. The only thing that concerns me is that Hydra's better in ace games... so let's hope Light starts playing those, lol.

It's kind of a silly way to put together a team, but it seems to have worked out pretty well.

The anti, on the other hand, I'm not sure about.

Action's dangerous, but I don't think he's actually good. But he's also only 5 points, so that means I need 8 more. None of the 8 pointers are good picks, though Kal might come in under his cost. There are no 7 point players. Of the 6 players, the weakest is Tyson... and while any of them might slump, I hate guessing. Of the 5 pointers, the only one I'd even consider on anti is HyuN (still considering this, actually). The 4 pointers is basically blindfold darts, but Jangbi/hero seems reasonable.

The HyuN proposal: The thing is, sometimes HyuN plays like an S class for a couple weeks, and that could burn me, even though he mostly sucks. The other thing is, if I put him on anti, which 3 pointer do I go with? Saint? They're both bad Zergs, but I'm basically saying, "Hi, I'm going to eat all the points from every time an MBC Zerg wins."

Hmm.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 03:49:26
April 22 2011 03:48 GMT
#189
On April 22 2011 05:44 night terrors wrote:
What do you guys (Craton) make out of choosing out of the six pointers? I see Light being used a lot by Stars as the terran ace, Snow seems a sure choice for CJ but has been playing kinda lackluster lately, Leta is solid on all thee matchups (providing that his vP gets better he will be very good). Then theres Soulkeywho is a favorite on Stars and RorO who will surely be played by FOX since its a bo7 format, both good all around players that will se playtime. I find Calm, Killer and Bogus overpriced, and HiyA seems a bit pricey too, he'd be better at 5 i think.

They all seem to be able to get ACE playtime, and none is a definite ACE too. What do you guys think?

Zero will get most of the ace games, followed by Free. Light might get some, but I wouldn't favor him over the others. Hydra will get the lion's share of Hite ace games.

ACE = airforce team
Ace/ace = 7th game
twitch.tv/cratonz
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4365 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 04:43:19
April 22 2011 04:41 GMT
#190
To all Aussies playing, join the Gary Ableeeeett group!
Sucker for nostalgia
gen.Sun
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States539 Posts
April 22 2011 05:50 GMT
#191
I don't feel like Stork will have the ROI this round, he's not going to get more points than zero and hydra despite being worth 1 more. Kinda odd that there's no 7 pointers. I feel like Kal/stats/sea should be 7 points.

I'm tempted to make a 29 point team but in the end I stuck with Stork despite him being imo overpriced.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
April 22 2011 06:13 GMT
#192
rocket

Main Team
3 (P)BeSt
3 (P)Brave
12 (T)Flash (captain)
2 (P)Grape
4 (Z)great
3 (T)Reality
3 Samsung

Anti Team
4 (Z)Crazy-Hydra
5 (P)free
4 (Z)hero


well i am still not really sure if i wanna go with this team cos i dont have hope for Khan at all lol,if you have any suggestions,please do let me know.

Heres my analysis

Flash is a god
Best with 3 pts is a steal imo,although hes not doing well the past few rounds maybe due to WL.I havent check regular PL but i have faith that Best will destroy with his awesome Macro


for other Khan members
Reality just passed went thru + Show Spoiler +
MSL
so i chose him instead of Turn
Grape just played more games than Jangbi and will appear more....
brave duh....
great is a great zvz sniper,i dont see him bad at all



For anti
CH is a shit,they rather send out Action than any other zerg
Free ....well I overestimate him when he moved back to A team,I guess that he should move back to B team
By.hero....is just rofl..
Taosu
Profile Joined August 2010
Ukraine1074 Posts
April 22 2011 07:10 GMT
#193
Sorry, what's the deadline to submit my team again?
Also fan of Hyuk, Pure, free, Action, Stats, Leta, Horang2, Snow, Flying, Shuttle, Movie, Paralyze
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 07:33:45
April 22 2011 07:17 GMT
#194
TheRock

Main Team
3 (P)BeSt
4 (T)firebathero (captain)
4 (Z)ggaemo
1 (P)Guemchi
8 (Z)Hydra
6 (T)Leta
4 KT

Anti Team
2 (T)FrOzen
6 (Z)Killer
5 (P)Movie


-KT is a solid pick for a team, especially at 4 points. Their line up is pretty deep with the addition of crazy-hydra, and a lot of their players can play well when in form (stats, action, etc).

- Firebathero and ggaemo receive a lot of play time on ACE. While the actual team gets its ass kicked overall, firebathero and ggaemo are usually the ones that can pick up wins consistently, and they will play the ace match if it ever gets there. Decently priced at 4 each.

- Best seems super cheap at 3 points. He has the 2nd best PvT, and he can easily snipe other team when SKT decides to send him. He's not in form at the moment, but that can change.

- I picked Guemchi because he was 1 point. I have no idea what the hell he's been up to, but it seems like a steal at 1 point, since there's a pretty good chance Woongjin will send him out if he's been practicing and got good again.

- Hydra and Leta performed extremely well during the first couple rounds. While Leta's not playing well lately, he's still one of Hite's best players. Hydra has been owning in SPL, plus he won the last MSL, beating Jaedong in a ZvZ. Also, one of those two will get sent out at the ace match for Hite. For 14 points, it seems like a bargain getting 2 top players that aren't TBLS.

-As for the Anti, Frozen sucks, and I'm hoping Killer and Movie will continue their slumping ways in SPL, even though they've been posting results in winner's league. This will probably end up biting me in the ass. I'm probably gonna change this after I put more thought into it.
Vandy
Profile Joined October 2008
Australia13 Posts
April 22 2011 07:48 GMT
#195
Sorry guys, was there a reason that I can't choose effort in this FPL? Although he is unlikely to play having just come back, alot of players on those lists are unlikely to play as well? Plus he is still a member of CJ (now 'Hite Entus')?
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
April 22 2011 07:59 GMT
#196
On April 22 2011 16:48 Vandy wrote:
Sorry guys, was there a reason that I can't choose effort in this FPL? Although he is unlikely to play having just come back, alot of players on those lists are unlikely to play as well? Plus he is still a member of CJ (now 'Hite Entus')?



He's literally unable to play until like August or so. Something about having to wait 1 year after retiring to become a progamer again.
Vandy
Profile Joined October 2008
Australia13 Posts
April 22 2011 08:10 GMT
#197
Thanks Daozzt.

Good luck to everyone this season!
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
April 22 2011 08:20 GMT
#198
Oops, forgot to make my team. 2 minute random pickings ftw.

GO CAPTAIN GRAPE
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 09:53:41
April 22 2011 09:47 GMT
#199
Due to Modesty being removed from the roster, I had to change my Modesty+Jaedong combo to Hydra+Action for the same point value. I'd love to have Soulkey on (finally I could like something about his turtling ZvP wins :-p), but I just cant take that 1 extra point (compared to Action) off anywhere!
edit: I just ended up changing Action to great for one point less. 29-point main team gogo

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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13046 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-22 10:07:43
April 22 2011 10:07 GMT
#200
Just made some tweaks to my team. Switched Ssak for Reality and Hydra for Zero .

Reality is doing good lately + KHAN bias

Zero is my 2nd favorite zerg and I cant have Stork and Hydra in the same team
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
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