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mmdmmd
Profile Joined June 2007
722 Posts
March 21 2011 15:05 GMT
#101
Was money the main reason Effort left in the first place? Did he ask for a pay rise after beating Flash? Anyone know?
TehAntiphobia
Profile Joined December 2010
United States12 Posts
March 21 2011 15:34 GMT
#102
Lest sauce!! I still remember his last game against (T)Flash.
"I may own it, but I don't pwn it!"
Askalaphos
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany772 Posts
March 21 2011 16:36 GMT
#103
I don't know what to make of this.
Effort was one of my favorite players, but I don't know if he can come back, after almost one year.

Is there any other progamer who was a long time off and came back successful?
FavZerg: EffOrt, Jaedong; FavProtoss: Movie, Kal; FavTerran: BaBy, Leta
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
March 21 2011 16:39 GMT
#104
Amazing. Looking forward to a Flash - Effort rematch.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
Sasquatch
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada126 Posts
March 21 2011 17:51 GMT
#105
Woooo Effort! Best of luck and hope we get to see some more epic matches!!!
JESUS CHRIST ITS A LION GET IN THE CAR
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
March 21 2011 18:01 GMT
#106
Hite's gonna be stacked.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Creation85
Profile Joined March 2010
51 Posts
March 21 2011 18:02 GMT
#107
awesome news, hopefully he can stand up to flash :D
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
March 21 2011 18:14 GMT
#108
AWESOME!!! i guess this is the news cj was going to announce>?
aka DragOn[NaS]
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 21 2011 18:15 GMT
#109
On March 22 2011 00:05 mmdmmd wrote:
Was money the main reason Effort left in the first place? Did he ask for a pay rise after beating Flash? Anyone know?


Pretty sure that is the reason. It's pretty obvious, I think. His team was in transition, and he wanted a raise after beating Flash. Hite didn't agree, so Effort left...

Now that Hite is not doing so well, they want Effort back...
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
March 21 2011 18:17 GMT
#110
On March 22 2011 03:15 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2011 00:05 mmdmmd wrote:
Was money the main reason Effort left in the first place? Did he ask for a pay rise after beating Flash? Anyone know?


Pretty sure that is the reason. It's pretty obvious, I think. His team was in transition, and he wanted a raise after beating Flash. Hite didn't agree, so Effort left...

Now that Hite is not doing so well, they want Effort back...

Where are you guys getting this information from?
( ・´ー・`)
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
March 21 2011 20:35 GMT
#111
On March 22 2011 03:15 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2011 00:05 mmdmmd wrote:
Was money the main reason Effort left in the first place? Did he ask for a pay rise after beating Flash? Anyone know?


Pretty sure that is the reason. It's pretty obvious, I think. His team was in transition, and he wanted a raise after beating Flash. Hite didn't agree, so Effort left...

Now that Hite is not doing so well, they want Effort back...

Source?
And, I'm glad that Effort's coming back. OSL final between himself and Flash was one of the first finals I saw. I hope he returns to and peaks his old form
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
skinnyrl
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands125 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-21 20:46:11
March 21 2011 20:43 GMT
#112
when effort played he was the same like flash/jaedong/bisu stork. This guy is a freaking beast.
Besides alot of sick plays by him i will also never forget his epic comeback in the osl. This guy has everything to get another gold.
''Every advantage has it's disadvantage'' Johan Cruyf
Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
March 21 2011 21:01 GMT
#113
lol there is no source on that guys that is just speculation.

I think Effort doesn't like university and wants to get back to gaming.
Fame was like a drug. But what was even more like a drug were the drugs.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
March 21 2011 21:03 GMT
#114
On March 22 2011 05:43 skinnyrl wrote:
when effort played he was the same like flash/jaedong/bisu stork. This guy is a freaking beast.
Besides alot of sick plays by him i will also never forget his epic comeback in the osl. This guy has everything to get another gold.


He was the 3rd best player in the world for quite a while while bisu/stork were slumping.

Effort Fighting!~
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
optical630
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom768 Posts
March 21 2011 21:13 GMT
#115
he reached his goal of winning a stargleague, then he retired to pursue education, the payrise stuff is all bullshit.


effort hwaiting!
stambe
Profile Joined May 2005
Bulgaria492 Posts
March 21 2011 21:14 GMT
#116
Now the only thing left is the return of Savior - the original messiah(dreaming...)
Valks rulzz
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
March 21 2011 21:15 GMT
#117
On March 22 2011 03:17 prototype. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2011 03:15 Sufficiency wrote:
On March 22 2011 00:05 mmdmmd wrote:
Was money the main reason Effort left in the first place? Did he ask for a pay rise after beating Flash? Anyone know?


Pretty sure that is the reason. It's pretty obvious, I think. His team was in transition, and he wanted a raise after beating Flash. Hite didn't agree, so Effort left...

Now that Hite is not doing so well, they want Effort back...

Where are you guys getting this information from?

On October 19 2010 02:40 Selith wrote:
The article tells me that the negotiation really didn't go very smooth.

Effort said: "I wanted to continue playing and enjoying the games with the fans, but during the salary negotiation process, CJ made me turn away from the team to the point, that made me think 'Why did I even bother to play hard for so long for this team?'."


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6644861
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moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-21 21:37:39
March 21 2011 21:24 GMT
#118
On March 22 2011 03:15 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2011 00:05 mmdmmd wrote:
Was money the main reason Effort left in the first place? Did he ask for a pay rise after beating Flash? Anyone know?


Pretty sure that is the reason. It's pretty obvious, I think. His team was in transition, and he wanted a raise after beating Flash. Hite didn't agree, so Effort left...

Now that Hite is not doing so well, they want Effort back...

There's 2 sides to this coin.

After his OSL win Effort felt entitled to a big salary bump (though we don't know the details), CJ didn't meet his number, he decided to call it good and focus on school. Maybe his entrence exams didn't go well? maybe he just regretted his decision? maybe he realized he wasn't in the mindset for school and wanted to restart negotiations?

Anyway, Hite isn't doing too badly, Hydra has more or less replaced Effort's position (and took an MSL as well). Movie is bouncing back finally, Horang2 is winning some non-vP games now, Snow is still solid and Leta/Skyhigh have their ups and downs. I don't think CJ (Hite) came begging to Effort with the salary demands he had before he left, I think at the very least it was mutual and they met somewhere down the middle.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Armathai
Profile Joined October 2007
1023 Posts
March 22 2011 16:03 GMT
#119
Awesome news to have Effort back, BW really needs some more positive news bombshells like that =)
Can't wait until he can actually play in proleague again, FPL is waiting! :D

Looking for ArcticCerebrate formerly from @USEast
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
March 22 2011 16:59 GMT
#120
Effort is back? AlienZerg fighting!!! :D
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
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