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nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1341 Posts
March 07 2011 04:27 GMT
#141
Damn, now my dream of being the first non-Korean to win WCG seems unrealistic
Kazzabiss
Profile Joined December 2010
1006 Posts
March 07 2011 04:28 GMT
#142
On March 07 2011 13:25 eviltomahawk wrote:
I agree with everyone else who says that this is the most logical decision for SC2. Looking at the player roster for WCG 2010, most, if not all, of the non-Korean players are currently playing SC2, and most of the more famous ones, such as Brat_OK and White-Ra, were already playing both SC2 and BW at the time. The total number of competitors that year was 19, which seems to be a shell of former WCGs.

We all watch WCG to see epic games between Koreans (Flash vs JD), epic games between foreigners (Idra vs White-Ra), and games where foreigners somehow scrape by with wins against Koreans (Mondragon vs Savior). Now that all the foreigners have switched, we only get to see complete unknown foreigners play low-level games, Koreans roflstomping them, and maybe Koreans playing some epic games that could've been seen in any other Korean league, assuming that KeSPA even allows their players into WCG.

This is a correct step for WCG. The foreign BW is, unfortunately, completely dead and replaced by SC2. Competitive BW only exists in Korea, and it would be unwise for WCG to cater only to Koreans at this point. The world is playing SC2, but only Korea is playing BW.

Now, I'm only worried about WCG's partnership with Samsung and OGN right now. Since WCG is no longer including BW, I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung pulls all their funding and OGN cancels their broadcasting partnership.

Samsung maybe, but OGN probably not. You have to remember that they sponsor WCG to make money, not to support BW. And even with BW gone, OGN and Samsung will still be making money from the sponsorship.
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StutteR
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1903 Posts
March 07 2011 04:32 GMT
#143
Damnit wanted to see a final Flash v Jaedong WCG. I'll miss the replays and FPVODs from WCG
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Herper
Profile Joined January 2011
501 Posts
March 07 2011 04:33 GMT
#144
Makes sense.. starcraft 2 is bigger worldwide than bw..
Yung
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States727 Posts
March 07 2011 04:35 GMT
#145
Im sad to see BW go i mean WCG was the last american event to keep it, and now its gone.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
March 07 2011 04:37 GMT
#146
On March 07 2011 13:28 Kazzabiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 13:25 eviltomahawk wrote:
I agree with everyone else who says that this is the most logical decision for SC2. Looking at the player roster for WCG 2010, most, if not all, of the non-Korean players are currently playing SC2, and most of the more famous ones, such as Brat_OK and White-Ra, were already playing both SC2 and BW at the time. The total number of competitors that year was 19, which seems to be a shell of former WCGs.

We all watch WCG to see epic games between Koreans (Flash vs JD), epic games between foreigners (Idra vs White-Ra), and games where foreigners somehow scrape by with wins against Koreans (Mondragon vs Savior). Now that all the foreigners have switched, we only get to see complete unknown foreigners play low-level games, Koreans roflstomping them, and maybe Koreans playing some epic games that could've been seen in any other Korean league, assuming that KeSPA even allows their players into WCG.

This is a correct step for WCG. The foreign BW is, unfortunately, completely dead and replaced by SC2. Competitive BW only exists in Korea, and it would be unwise for WCG to cater only to Koreans at this point. The world is playing SC2, but only Korea is playing BW.

Now, I'm only worried about WCG's partnership with Samsung and OGN right now. Since WCG is no longer including BW, I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung pulls all their funding and OGN cancels their broadcasting partnership.

Samsung maybe, but OGN probably not. You have to remember that they sponsor WCG to make money, not to support BW. And even with BW gone, OGN and Samsung will still be making money from the sponsorship.

True. However, Samsung did state that they don't want to sponsor WCG if it meant advertising Blizzard games, especially considering the state of the Blizzard vs KeSPA talks. OGN technically can't, and won't, broadcast the SC2 and WC3 events due to the lawsuit going on, and without BW, I doubt they will have much of an incentive to broadcast any part of WCG at all. Since Samsung is a big member of KeSPA and a sponsor of a BW team, I wouldn't be surprised if they pull their funding as a message to Blizzard for having the lawsuit in the first place.
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King[Neikos]
Profile Joined September 2010
Costa Rica506 Posts
March 07 2011 04:38 GMT
#147
i entered the thread with a big smile and turned to sadness as i read the initial post, this was not what i was expecting, ill try and save the hate to myself, and at least hope that this is the right move to help Esports in some way
Fear_Chaos
Profile Joined December 2004
United States101 Posts
March 07 2011 04:40 GMT
#148
Guess I won't be watching WCG anymore
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
March 07 2011 04:44 GMT
#149
Can't say I'm surprised. But the thing is, WCG started with BW but this is just me being nostalgic.

And yes, the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd for SC2 in WCG will still be koreans.
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Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
March 07 2011 04:44 GMT
#150
I guess that is the final nail in the coffin for non-korean BW, real shame that.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
March 07 2011 04:45 GMT
#151
Ah well it it's the logical move.. It is a sad day though - can you feel the nostalgia :p ? Got to appeal to that global audience !
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ericfalcrow
Profile Joined March 2011
Singapore9 Posts
March 07 2011 04:46 GMT
#152
The tournament have to move on with the time, else it will just get faded out like the other old games
composition
Profile Joined September 2008
98 Posts
March 07 2011 04:46 GMT
#153
I guess that is the final nail in the coffin for WCG, real shame that.
only_human89
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States212 Posts
March 07 2011 04:48 GMT
#154
Someone needs to make a video highlighting the best moments and memories of WCG.
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Mr.Brightside
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia317 Posts
March 07 2011 04:50 GMT
#155
It's sad that they have dumped BW within a year of SC2 coming out, I was hoping for more of a transition that could show all of the players that are new to RTS or have just started with SC2 that the real skill started off with BW and that SC2 probably wouldn't be as big of a success without it.
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TexSC
Profile Joined June 2010
United States195 Posts
March 07 2011 04:51 GMT
#156
I just cannot agree with all of the people who say BW is more fun to watch than SC2, and I have played both competitively and watched both (BW for years, and SC2 since the first videos came out in beta).

SC2 is where the competitive RTS scene is now a days, and Korea will come around as well soon.
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aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
March 07 2011 04:53 GMT
#157
On March 07 2011 13:48 only_human89 wrote:
Someone needs to make a video highlighting the best moments and memories of WCG.


Great Idea! That would be totally awesome!
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zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
March 07 2011 04:55 GMT
#158
Not surprised by this decision at all. I've followed the BW scene since 2007 (still do) and it sucks to see the game removed from WCG. I play SC2 more than BW now, but it's fun to go back to BW now and then to play with friends on old school maps.
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
March 07 2011 04:58 GMT
#159
I think Starcraft 2 players and fans don't want to see SC2 die, and many are willing to sacrifice SC1 in that sense. It's had its time to shine and arguably will always be the "greatest of all time" from a historical perspective, the same way DOOM and Tetris tend to make those lists.

SC2 players also don't want to feel "second class," the "SC2" is easier stigma. Keep in mind that when Starcraft was as old as SC2 is now, BW wasn't even out yet. While people are worried about protoss death balls right now, SC1 was still working out various abuses like sliding command centers for years.

Also, much <3 to Starcraft 1, it still stands as the most influential game of all time for me. When I first ventured online and realized you could play with people who were far different and better than any computer, but that I could possibly beat them if I got better, what a delicious discovery that was.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
March 07 2011 05:00 GMT
#160
Great decision! Love watching sc2, but I do not watch bw games.
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