On February 25 2011 18:08 arbiter_md wrote: I think the best ZvP-er nowadays is Action.
Care to explain why?
When you mentioned Action I sort of looked through his ZvP record, and the only notable wins were against Snow (maybe?) and Bisu, other than that I wouldn't call his ZvP impressive.
Jaedong however, in the past six months played around 24 ZvPs in which he won 15 and lost 9 (62.5%). Out of his 9 losses: Bisu and Stork contributed to 6 of them (2 of the losses against Stork were from the OSL semi series), and 2 of them were from his amazing series against Snow.
I still think Jaedong is the best ZvPer at the moment. The only reason why he has been looking less immortal was because Bisu and Stork were on a roll.
JD just sucks vs S-class nowadays. Maybe he's thinking that Action is good ZvPer because he bested Bisu. -_-
Bisu's Probes won't just die even if you were to match his APM/multi-tasking skills; just look at any of the games Jaedong and Bisu played against each other back in the 08-09 days.
I don't think any Zerg player is capable of beating Bisu straight up nowadays; some players MIGHT give him a challenge, but if you really want to knock Bisu out, just send up an S-Class TvPer/Kal/Stork (IIRC, only Stork/Kal can actually best Bisu in a mirror match now).
On February 25 2011 18:08 arbiter_md wrote: I think the best ZvP-er nowadays is Action.
The best ZvPer is Hydra . He stops zealot rushes cold and micros them hydras like nobody's business . Not to mention his overall control is pretty amazing .
On February 25 2011 12:20 pinkranger15 wrote: his multitasking skills are great not only in PvZ but in all match-up. but he sometimes choke in vT and vP. great write-up. KIM TAEK YONG FIGHTING!
...like everytime he plays Flash. I would definately say Bisu's weakness is his mental stability. He can make ridiculous mistakes when he's being pressured, like when he went mass dragoons (a build that basically only works against sunken-whoring zergs) against Shine, who is well known for Hydra busts. And let's not forget all his failed DT rushes in PvP. Most other Protoss progamers who play him say he have great micro, and I don't remember when he lost a PvP last time when he didn't have a build disadvantage.
On February 25 2011 18:08 arbiter_md wrote: I think the best ZvP-er nowadays is Action.
Care to explain why?
Because nowadays zvp very often goes to late-game, compared to other times. And for that, late-game Action is prepared best. He plans his games ahead for defilers to use. And yes, I said that based on the games he played against Bisu and Snow.
Jaedong seems not accommodated to new style yet. As about hydra, while he has the game sense for zvp and he knows what to do, his late-game is not very good. Or I didn't see it at least.
On February 25 2011 18:08 arbiter_md wrote: I think the best ZvP-er nowadays is Action.
Care to explain why?
Because nowadays zvp very often goes to late-game, compared to other times. And for that, late-game Action is prepared best. He plans his games ahead for defilers to use. And yes, I said that based on the games he played against Bisu and Snow.
Jaedong seems not accommodated to new style yet. As about hydra, while he has the game sense for zvp and he knows what to do, his late-game is not very good. Or I didn't see it at least.
I got your point but I just think most ZvP these days are just do or die Hydra busts, succeed and win, or fail and prepare to get rolled by +1 speedlots.
On February 25 2011 12:20 pinkranger15 wrote: his multitasking skills are great not only in PvZ but in all match-up. but he sometimes choke in vT and vP. great write-up. KIM TAEK YONG FIGHTING!
Well his harass play doesn't suit PvT because Terran is capable of putting up defense much better than Zerg.
not in this game. where he demolished Mind with his reaver harass ROFL
On March 02 2011 10:17 Taekwon wrote: Man, his PvZ is certainly solid, but his PvT is so dam unstable. God forbid I talk about his PvP these days...
He only has 2 PvT losses this season among quite a few wins with no 'bad' games. PvP, it's just Stork and Kal that give him trouble. Otherwise he's unstoppable.
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