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TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
February 22 2011 20:03 GMT
#41
he's about to make a comeback! every time!
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iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1478 Posts
February 22 2011 20:09 GMT
#42
skt1 coach said it in a nal ra video: fantasy is the culmination of boxer and iloveoov togheter.
I think that saays it all.
(btw he also said nal_ra was ahead all game and only lost cus of 1 bad engagement, Respect nal_ra!)
aka LRM)Cats_Paw.
Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
February 22 2011 20:10 GMT
#43
Jaedong's had some questionable GG timing...but I think it's because it's just so hard to fathom him losing xD
Entusman #54 (-_-) ||"Gold is for the Mistress-Silver for the Maid-Copper for the craftsman cunning in his trade. "Good!" said the Baron, sitting in his hall, But Iron — Cold Iron — is master of them all|| "Optimism is Cowardice."- Oswald Spengler
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
February 22 2011 20:10 GMT
#44
Given his featureless expression a lot of the time I can't really decipher if he's either A: Scared of Oov's disappointment, B: Trying really hard to be Flash and stage a miraculous comeback, C: So disappointed with himself and how he played/executed his build or D: pissed off at whatever his opponent did. Whatever the most prevalent reason, he should stop doing it so damn much for so damn long.
Remember Violet.
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
February 22 2011 20:14 GMT
#45
On February 23 2011 04:55 ReketSomething wrote:
Yea....watching Fantasy not gg is kind of amusing. The more amusing thing is the korean commentators trying to find things to say after they know its already over. They also try to make the gg exciting even though they knew it was coming for a while lol.


Bad GG timings ruin otherwise really good games, Fantasy. The GG has to be EPIC, not dragged on for 5 minutes after the decisive moment.
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Grebliv
Profile Joined May 2006
Iceland800 Posts
February 22 2011 20:21 GMT
#46
he's going to get that 1 cc 6 scv vs 3 base protoss comeback one day! just you wait :D
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hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2267 Posts
February 22 2011 20:27 GMT
#47
On February 23 2011 04:42 edhead999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 03:45 Release wrote:
On February 23 2011 02:48 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On a funnier note, the longer he takes to GG, the longer he has to figure out how to tell Oov why he lost! Maybe that's why Canata was so depressed all the time, Oov is a fiery coach.

edit: woops meant to edit this into the last post.

oov facepalms a lot, so if Fantasy made any obvious mistakes, then Fantasy definitely wants to think it out first before leaving his booth.


Omg dude, that game where he plays Action... I was laughing so hard after seeing oov's facepalm


In other hand, he proved here the lack of game sense as well. He refused to gg when the game was already lost, and he didnt know that...
...and he somehow won that game XD
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
February 22 2011 20:35 GMT
#48
On February 23 2011 05:27 hitthat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 04:42 edhead999 wrote:
On February 23 2011 03:45 Release wrote:
On February 23 2011 02:48 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On a funnier note, the longer he takes to GG, the longer he has to figure out how to tell Oov why he lost! Maybe that's why Canata was so depressed all the time, Oov is a fiery coach.

edit: woops meant to edit this into the last post.

oov facepalms a lot, so if Fantasy made any obvious mistakes, then Fantasy definitely wants to think it out first before leaving his booth.


Omg dude, that game where he plays Action... I was laughing so hard after seeing oov's facepalm


In other hand, he proved here the lack of game sense as well. He refused to gg when the game was already lost, and he didnt know that...
...and he somehow won that game XD


? The game wasn't lost at all, he just made an enormous, completely retarded mistake that almost threw the game away and gave action the win for no other reason than being dumb, and to that oov did the big reaction thing we have gif'd. No one with sense about them thought that game was lost, just that Fantasy made it way way too close and scary for his own good.
Remember Violet.
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-24 17:19:32
February 22 2011 20:39 GMT
#49
I think late GG, with player being known for this, can serve well because opponent isn't going to know exactly are you actually dead or not yet. And in some 0.000001% case he might miss something. Well it's not 0.000001 maybe. Maybe larger. Anyway, even a progamer can make a mistake like being too relaxed when game's not over

edit: fuck - i misspelled one word and the sense was completely lost T_T
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hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2267 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 20:58:37
February 22 2011 20:39 GMT
#50
In fact i think that action had that game after fantasy gave his marines on the silver pattern, most players would give up after that instantly and if he lost , that game would be another one with "look, he refused to gg for all one minute, when the game was already over". But he won, so everybody are saying now (after the fact) that this game was not lost at all. (TBH I was face palming that game and thought that fanta will gg, but he saved himself somehow).



EDIT: I watched the game once again and you are right, it was not that hopeless situation as i thouth (looks like iritation just made me thouth that LOL)
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
LaoShuAiDaMi
Profile Joined September 2009
United States88 Posts
February 22 2011 20:41 GMT
#51
On February 23 2011 01:31 AppleTart wrote:
Fantasy has some of the worst GG timing out everyone. I'm trying to think of someone else who has bad GG timing.


Hyungjoon?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45070 Posts
February 22 2011 20:49 GMT
#52
Well I guess Fantasy will just have to keep All-Killing everyone so that he'll never have to have bad GG timing ever again.

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mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
February 22 2011 20:52 GMT
#53
On February 23 2011 05:10 Kimaker wrote:
Jaedong's had some questionable GG timing...but I think it's because it's just so hard to fathom him losing xD


You're making my cry, man I remember the days when people were actually surprised JD lost
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
February 22 2011 20:53 GMT
#54
I feel for him. It's the same reason why some people pull the plug or place pylons around the map when they've been cheesed out of a win, or when they lose in a very depressing fashion.
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LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
February 22 2011 21:14 GMT
#55
and if he were to ever come back with 1 vulture against 200/200 flash army, it'd be one of the most memorable games of all time. maybe one of the most boring as well...
Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
February 22 2011 21:42 GMT
#56
Bad GG timing = Never say(ing) never.
Who knows, maybe that last SCV has Spartan blood in him or something.
(All that CC floating is just... bad lol)
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
February 22 2011 22:29 GMT
#57
I see where you're coming from, and some of those examples are rather painful, but I have a hard time faulting a player for trying "too hard" to win. He had no chance in those games, but what about games where he came back from a disadvantage? Even if there is one game to play counter to all of the examples, it was worth sticking around for all of them. It does decrease the entertainment value of the event as a spectacle, but players shouldn't be trying to please an audience instead of winning.

I think that fantasy's "bad gg timing" is certainly better than the contra positive: a player who quits when they could have won.

If players were just trying to create entertaining games, then turtling would be illegal, and I can think of a few players who would take substantial hits to their career if they were to stop turtling.

Then again, I am a jung myung hoon fan, so my perception might be slightly warped.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
February 22 2011 22:41 GMT
#58
Remember Light vs Free? The one that caused free to slump?
That is proof enough that you can make insane comebacks.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
AppleTart
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1261 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 22:58:18
February 22 2011 22:57 GMT
#59
On February 23 2011 07:41 Lightwip wrote:
Remember Light vs Free? The one that caused free to slump?
That is proof enough that you can make insane comebacks.


Flash has been proof time and time again, it's just no one else really pulls that stuff off consistently enough for the general population to keep hope. Plus Fantasy hasn't really come back from anything... he's not that kind of player. Also a lot of his not ggs are really ridiculous. It's different to not gg when you lost a base or something or a big fight, but when you float your CC yeah...that's a different level.
always tired -_-
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
February 22 2011 23:09 GMT
#60
On February 23 2011 07:57 AppleTart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 07:41 Lightwip wrote:
Remember Light vs Free? The one that caused free to slump?
That is proof enough that you can make insane comebacks.


Flash has been proof time and time again, it's just no one else really pulls that stuff off consistently enough for the general population to keep hope. Plus Fantasy hasn't really come back from anything... he's not that kind of player. Also a lot of his not ggs are really ridiculous. It's different to not gg when you lost a base or something or a big fight, but when you float your CC yeah...that's a different level.

Lol yeah, I think Fantasy is a special case in bad gg timing. It's especially bad.

I suppose he just takes losses harder than others. I don't think it's to do with his preparation as he GGs badly in starleagues and proleague and winner's league. I think he just has a little emo moment as he savours defeat before tapping out.
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