EPTStarcraft soon olympic?
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Orome
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Chibi[OWNS]
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ram
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ParasitJonte
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Big question is not if but when it will happen... 2008 might be to close but lets say 2016, by then I hope E-sports will be really big. Also, something to think about, should it be a summer olympics game or winter olympics  I vote for winter :D | ||
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Breeze
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Chibi[OWNS]
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pooper-scooper
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Asta
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pinbaLL
Sweden1711 Posts
On September 27 2004 07:31 Chibi[OWNS] wrote: hey, if bowling can be an olympic sport then anything can be lol is it? | ||
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Vash_p2
Chile65 Posts
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ieatkids5
United States4628 Posts
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On September 27 2004 12:20 ieatkids5 wrote: Korea would win in the E-Games every Olympics Just like America owns Track and Field -_- | ||
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[vital]Myth
United States588 Posts
On September 27 2004 12:20 ieatkids5 wrote: Korea would win in the E-Games every Olympics Not all the E-games...Starcraft, sure. | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
But yeah, you're right, it would be almost all kill for Korea unless they included Halo which I doubt international players would participate. Seriously America needs to get rid of their ' FPS only ' reputation. And America only owns in track and field because of so many ethnicities living in one nation - _-v If you think about it, we aren't even really a ' country ' represented by one peoples, just an assortment of people's so a large pool of talent to choose from. | ||
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Chibi[OWNS]
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Chibi[OWNS]
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LetMeBeWithYou
Canada4254 Posts
On September 27 2004 12:28 Abyss_Bahamut wrote: Korea would only own in Sc, Wc, Lineage, and they have a chance at CS:CZ, Since Maven/Architect and a few other teams are really good but they are on par or lower than the good Swedish and American teams [ Are there good american teams? Not to insult, I just don't follow CS that closely, I know about Swedes though. ] Ameroca Team 3D | ||
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vi3t69
Zimbabwe40 Posts
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
On September 27 2004 12:41 vi3t69 wrote: no offense, but i think its a dumb ideal because playing video games shouldnt be part of the olympics. its a world class event, and as much as i love sc, i dont think its physical nor athetic. they might as well put paintball etc. also the general public dont no shi3t about sc to even consider it an event or other video games. lol can u imagine some guy playing fifa 2008 while he can go watch real soccer? It doesn't have to be physical or athletic to be olympic. People don't give a damn about 90% of the olympic disciplines, so that's no reason either. And yes, I can imagine someone, rather playing a video game, than playing the real thing. | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
Edit: You're right about Fifa, people wouldn't watch that but there is nothing in the real world like Starcraft, otherwise we Koreans would rule the world ^_^ | ||
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vi3t69
Zimbabwe40 Posts
i love the olympics and sc. but if they gonna start putting video games in the olympics, then its not what it used to be. | ||
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draeger
United States3256 Posts
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AgonyRush
United States2540 Posts
On September 27 2004 07:26 Orome wrote: I was just reading the newspaper (and a good, serious one, that only posts facts, not just rumours) this kind of newspapers do not exist=/ | ||
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AgonyRush
United States2540 Posts
On September 27 2004 07:35 ParasitJonte wrote: hehe =) I think StarCraft will be too old in 2008 (don't hurt me please)... hopefully they will have realeased a kiXXor SC2 or if they don't, hopefully they will avoid thinking "no one wants to watch these ugly graphics" and recognise BW as a game =) Big question is not if but when it will happen... 2008 might be to close but lets say 2016, by then I hope E-sports will be really big. Also, something to think about, should it be a summer olympics game or winter olympics I vote for winter :DStarcraft is art. It never gets old. | ||
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cav
Pitcairn514 Posts
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koit
United States450 Posts
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STIMEY d okgm fish
Canada6140 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=16891 BAM | ||
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cava
United States1035 Posts
On September 27 2004 12:51 Abyss_Bahamut wrote: Rofl,like golf and baseball are ' Sports ' ? Edit: You're right about Fifa, people wouldn't watch that but there is nothing in the real world like Starcraft, otherwise we Koreans would rule the world ^_^ Not only is baseball a sport, but it is the best one Also, golf is the hardest sport by far. Things that are judged like figure skating and gymnastics i dont consider sports however. | ||
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MaNg0
United States675 Posts
On September 27 2004 12:41 vi3t69 wrote: no offense, but i think its a dumb ideal because playing video games shouldnt be part of the olympics. its a world class event, and as much as i love sc, i dont think its physical nor athetic. they might as well put paintball etc. also the general public dont no shi3t about sc to even consider it an event or other video games. lol can u imagine some guy playing fifa 2008 while he can go watch real soccer? I think Olympic events should be physical and athletic too, but SC in the olympics would be very interesting to watch  | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
On September 27 2004 15:23 cava wrote: Not only is baseball a sport, but it is the best one Also, golf is the hardest sport by far. Things that are judged like figure skating and gymnastics i dont consider sports however. BASEBALL IS THE BEST SPORT?!?!?!  Please give me some reasoning, hahahaha omg, I can't believe you just said that. Edit: Also golf is not the hardest sport, by that I presume you mean skill, anyone can prove that with straight out facts. Edit #2: You are probably a very mechanical personality, ice skating and gymnastics [ although I don't agree on the judging system ] are examples of human art that are very strenuous as opposed to other human art like dancing, therefore they are 'sports' | ||
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eternalbliss
United States1035 Posts
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Taguchi
Greece1575 Posts
On September 27 2004 15:23 cava wrote: Not only is baseball a sport, but it is the best one Also, golf is the hardest sport by far. Things that are judged like figure skating and gymnastics i dont consider sports however. baseball is the worst sport ive ever laid my eyes on even curling was more enjoyable for me and golf is hard? compared to, say, pole vault?  starcraft or any esport shouldnt make it into the olympics i dont know what criteria a game should achieve to be introduced as an olympic sport but id not like to see computer games played in the olympics | ||
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Chibi[OWNS]
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Liquid`RaSZi
Netherlands2766 Posts
On September 27 2004 07:31 Chibi[OWNS] wrote: hey, if bowling can be an olympic sport then anything can be roflmao but i do think ur exaggerate on bowling. It's just another skill game. Though it's more a game than a sport.. well no .. i think it deserves being olympic, it's just so damn boring with all the strikes. | ||
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Hydrolisko
Vanuatu1659 Posts
.. don't trip.... starcraft will never be an olympics sport, even the thought of it is nothing sort of preposterous -.- unless there's an e-olympics or something.. Poker will become an olympic sport before starcraft, which is never... I do like the idea of E-Olympics though.. | ||
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DarkGhost]Coon[
United States1471 Posts
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Asta
Germany3491 Posts
starcraft is much more of a sport (yes i mean SPORT in any context you put it) than half of the disciplines we have now. only few of them require physical fitness and only a by far not all of them include performances that are actually amazing to watch for outsiders. horse riding, sailing or floor exercises for example ... wtf? or some of the shooting disciplines are very similar to playing a computer game. the "athletes" barely move and if you're not into it you have no idea what the point of that sport is. some of them hit and some of them don't. why? no clue... delivering "cognitive, affective and microphysical" performance. that's how steffen p. walz from the austrian e-sports university called it. | ||
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Arg.Iceman
Argentina213 Posts
On September 27 2004 12:50 Orome wrote: It doesn't have to be physical or athletic to be olympic. People don't give a damn about 90% of the olympic disciplines, so that's no reason either. And yes, I can imagine someone, rather playing a video game, than playing the real thing. That would be me , FIFA > real football because I suck too much on it And about SC being olimpic, I think it would be great but it will probably never happen | ||
OneOther
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vi3t69
Zimbabwe40 Posts
On September 27 2004 16:34 Asta wrote: people who think the idea is absurd are narrow minded imo 8[ . lol. no buddy. if a video game can get in the olympics, then wtf kinda tradition is the olympics then? | ||
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
Games are more thought of as an addiction rather than a passion. I tend to agree to that to a certain degree. I started starcraft as an addiction and not a passion. | ||
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Chris307
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Admin close please! | ||
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nortydog
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cav
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On September 27 2004 15:23 cava wrote: Not only is baseball a sport, but it is the best one Also, golf is the hardest sport by far. Things that are judged like figure skating and gymnastics i dont consider sports however. our names are too similar =\ | ||
GTR
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ie fifa, play fifa in virtual fifa world heh same with tennis = virtua tennis, but starcraft.... don't know, maybe you command an army? doubt this will happen until 20XX though. (I mean, its gonna take ages to develop the tech etc) | ||
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nortydog
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Zenzex
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PuertoRican
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GooDGaMe
United States989 Posts
Why not let monopoly become an olympics event? E-Sports has the WCG's, it's just like the olympics except is held every year. Let's support WCG's | ||
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nvnplatypus
Netherlands1300 Posts
The selection of which games will be part of the Olmpic Programme is handled by a commission of the same name. his questionnaire will soon be submitted to the 28 Summer International Federations that will be asked to fill it out and return it to the IOC by 15 November 2004. In addition, and in order to widen the analysis to other sports that potentially could add to the quality and popularity of the programme, the IOC has decided to study further five Recognised Federations i.e. the International Golf Federation, the International Roller Sports Federation, the International Rugby Board, the World Karate Federation, and the World Squash Federation. These five federations will also be asked to respond to the questionnaire. The IOC Programme Commission will then review the documents. A final decision on the composition of the Olympic programme of the 2012 Olympic Games will be made by the 117th IOC Session in July next year in Singapore. So first of all it appears the consideration for new sports for Beijing in 2008 has already been made , considering they're looking at sports for the 2012 Olmpic Games right now. They have made a list of 33 criteria a game will be evaluated on for consideration. I consider this interesting enough to download the PDF file and compare Starcraft to the criteria: 1. History of the IF (international federation) and the date the competition was first organized under it. *** SC doesn't have an IF, and I don't think the two competing international games (CPL and WCG) would qualify as such**** 2. # of times the game has been included in a bunch of stuff like Pan-American Games, All-African etc. etc. ***** 0 ***** 3. Date of first and number of World Champions held ***** this will be the 4th WCG? ***** 4. List of countries that have been in top 16 in last 4 world rankings (I think to make sure its broadly popular) *** uh.. i have no clue, someone go search the WCG history**** 5. # of national federations **** maybe Korea has one but I don't think any nation has it this organized yet ***** 6. irrelevant 7. # of national federations that took part in last world championship *** however many WCG national committees there were, if they count which I doubt *** 8. irrelevant 9. # of NF (national federations) that took part in last continental competitions *** 0 , we don't have formal contintent based competition *** 10. # of NF that correspond to Olympic Sport commitees that participated in WF. *** 0, even if WCG nationals sort of count they're not set up in same way as OSC's **** 11. steps we've taken for participation in Olmpic Sports (even as exhibition sport) *** 0 **** 12. spectator % of tickets sold at last 3 olympic games for that sport *** 0%.. keep in mind same list is used to re-evaluate existing sports *** 13. spectator attendance at past 3 olmpics *** 0, see above *** 14. media interest *** getting better here, but there is very little consistent media coverage outside Korea *** 15. written press coverage *** getting better too, but compared to say Rugby that has monthly magazines and such nothing good *** 16. quality of tv coverage at last olmpics *** not in it *** 17. year of creation of official IF website, this goes on a while.. number of visitors etc ** we don't have an official IF. *** 18. list of sponsors of the IF *** none *** 19. sale of television rights by IF *** none *** 20. athletes comittee existence ** we don't have one of these either! *** 21. gendar equity, number of participants from each gender in world championships *** I don't think a female has ever qualified for WCG, nor is there a seperate competition *** 22. presentation of sport, steps taken to ensure outcome as fair as possible ** hi Spain and Brazil WCG qualifiers *** 23. impact of the sport on the environment *** we're in good shape here yay! Since we just sit at home playing computer *** 24. IF's anti-doping tests done on atheletes *** 0 that I know of and we don't have an IF*** 25. IF's financial status *** don't have one bla bla *** 26. strategic planning process. Existence of strategic planning for 2005/8. ** haha. yeah right *** 27. scope of development programmes in all 5 continents *** damn... at least we did good at the environment question **** 28. cost of new competition and training structures *** this should be ok, you just need a competition venue with enough electrical power and some comps *** 29. costs related to equipment and training venus *** not too bad, comps can be used by multiple players at such events *** 30. technology costs at Olympic Venus *** well that would be a large part of budget if sponsors didn't provide comps, which I'm sure they would for an official OG *** 31. security requirements and costs *** $25 hire someone's grandma who's probably in better physical shape than most gamers **** 32. costs and complexity of TV production *** we should be in good shape here. OGn and MBCGame do this already. You don't even need as many camera crews as most sports. 33. items not included in above criteria *** well this is rather open for debate. I'd like to say a new idea like e-sports would do be favorably here but since we got totally owned on the rest of the criteria questionaire I'd like to formally conclude THERE's NO CHANCE IN HELL FOR 2008 OR 2012!!*** | ||
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GooDGaMe
United States989 Posts
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radiaL
Andorra2690 Posts
can you set a world record in whatever event or not? if not, then it should not be in. cause imo another tournament for soccer or curling or whatever the fuck is pointless. world records at least hold some value. | ||
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Hot77.iEy
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Hot77.iEy
Finland1486 Posts
On September 27 2004 17:21 vi3t69 wrote: lol. no buddy. if a video game can get in the olympics, then wtf kinda tradition is the olympics then? Fuck traditions... | ||
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Purind
Canada3562 Posts
On September 27 2004 17:21 vi3t69 wrote: lol. no buddy. if a video game can get in the olympics, then wtf kinda tradition is the olympics then? WTF kind of a tradition is it anyway? It's nothing like it was originally intended to be. Things like Baseball and Basketball have no place in the olympics. Although I do agree that SC should not be an Olympic sport. I mean, if SC can be an olympic sport, then like, 5000 other games will start making a case that they should be sports. I mean, my point is, if e-gaming was in the Olympics, then why would they choose SC specifically? (OK, it's hugest at the professional gaming level, but still, why shouldn't some other games be on it) And if they do put more e-games into the olympics, I think it'll be kinda messed up, and could really ruin the Olympics (further). | ||
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