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Taosu
Ukraine1074 Posts
I just thought it might be a good idea to put the information about the teams' performance in the Proleague into graphs and show you. Here's some data: number of games won and lost, win and loss ratio by race in each team. Teams are sorted by the current standings. Last update: 17 November 2010. Click to see the large picture: ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/XOkDo.png) After the 4 weeks of the 1st round (outdated): + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/R9MSJ.png) Hope you like this. | ||
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McFly
United States116 Posts
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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Spazer
Canada8033 Posts
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Ikonn
Netherlands1958 Posts
but this looks really cool, thanks! | ||
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loupouk
France105 Posts
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Doughboy
United States721 Posts
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
On November 13 2010 09:32 Doughboy wrote: Cool graphs! The names of the players are sort've hard to read but that's no biggie you can view a bigger image by clicking the image-link and then enlarging interesting graphs... too bad hiya is slumping  poor oz | ||
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Doughboy
United States721 Posts
On November 13 2010 09:46 ]343[ wrote: you can view a bigger image by clicking the image-link and then enlarging interesting graphs... too bad hiya is slumping poor ozI know, even doing this it was a bit straining. It could be that the names are sideways | ||
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Rinrun
Canada3509 Posts
Plus you got to love that pie chart for Rolster's wins - Flash lol. (OZ's zerg lol, can't forget Jaedong) | ||
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swanized
Canada2480 Posts
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prototype.
Canada4215 Posts
Jangbi | ||
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Goragoth
New Zealand1065 Posts
Great work though, and I hope we get to see some updates in the future. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
Keep up the good work! It would be great to see this in a few more weeks as well! | ||
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orgolove
Vatican City State1650 Posts
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matjlav
Germany2435 Posts
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
1. The "Depth" of STX zerg is seriously underpreforming 2. Turn + Brave are performing the biggest 2 man carry in the league (excluding Jaedong + perfectman because they have carried their team into 10th place.) 3. Jangbi | ||
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FranzF1
Chile1710 Posts
why man... why!!! He was the freaking god of thunder, he was the next big thing... why is he doing so bad. I hope he gets his game back and start to win again... The protoss race needs him. | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
Jangbi and hiya both slumping hard. Perfectman as Oz's #2 is lol. | ||
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Taosu
Ukraine1074 Posts
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onewingedmoogle
Canada434 Posts
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Gescom
Canada3507 Posts
ie. SKT1 wins are 50% Protoss, 36% Zerg, 14% Terran from their players. | ||
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Taosu
Ukraine1074 Posts
On November 13 2010 15:11 onewingedmoogle wrote: whats the team balance mean? On November 13 2010 15:20 Gescom wrote: It's the the number of wins by each race for each team. ie. SKT1 wins are 50% Protoss, 36% Zerg, 14% Terran from their players. No, it's not that. I think I put the team balance too close to wins by race chart. It's not about the races, it's about the players. Please see this thread for the team balance calculation. | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
Turn 6-0 Princess 2-0 Trap 1-0 These 4 are undefeated thus far though only Bisu and Turn are notable. | ||
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Gummy
United States2180 Posts
You can see from the steep slope of Jaedong Oz how undeep a team they are! | ||
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onewingedmoogle
Canada434 Posts
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BloodDrunK
Bangladesh2767 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
I still think the "team balance" statistic is kind of dubious though. Hmm, it also makes it easy to see the breadth of players that are being sent out. STX is sending out largest variety of players (10)...too bad 3 of them are winless, so it's not really helping. MBC with the least, sending out only 6 different players...only 2 of them with winning records, what a tragedy. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66358 Posts
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Taosu
Ukraine1074 Posts
On November 13 2010 18:12 Zona wrote: I like the way you presented the information, especially the individual player win-loss record. Good stuff. Thank you! On November 13 2010 18:12 Zona wrote: STX is sending out largest variety of players (10)...too bad 3 of them are winless, so it's not really helping. It's 11 players. :D | ||
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
Sad to see lots of black bars under Khan's big 3... and yes Bisu is pwning this up lol | ||
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Ozarugold
2716 Posts
Jangbi is like the reverse of Bisu~ | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On November 13 2010 18:12 Zona wrote: MBC with the least, sending out only 6 different players...only 2 of them with winning records, what a tragedy. There are effectively only 6 players on the team. But yet they're level with KT and Wemade. Not a bad position. | ||
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
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pred470r
Bulgaria3265 Posts
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Simplistik
2094 Posts
On November 13 2010 18:00 Gummy wrote: You can see from the shallow slope of Woongjin's wins how deep a team they are! You can see from the steep slope of Jaedong Oz how undeep a team they are! Unfortunately a team with no wins whatsoever would qualify as a "deep" team this way, although it is just in deep trouble. | ||
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MisteR
Netherlands595 Posts
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TheNessman
United States4158 Posts
Jaedong is still doing well!! Good Graphs man. Thanks! | ||
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Crissaegrim
2947 Posts
Im pretty sure he hasnt been to thailand in a while lol. But it's a good graph mate, thanks. | ||
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Yodo
Russian Federation327 Posts
From top-4 teams there are 3 toss oriented + Stars with strong zerg lineup (with Free and Really they are all races around actually). P-teams followed by terran-oriented teams which are on 5, 6 and 7 places Khan is full of slumping tosses so they on 8. JaedongOZ and Ace are too specific and should be excluded from analyze. Conclusion: Tosses are imba. Zergs doing fine. Flash and Turn - last terrans standing. Black days for T players T_T | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
odd to note that fox looks the most balanced in terms of wins by race, when you'd tend to think that they'd be somewhat terran favoured, simply because they have so many of them. pure and shine/roro stepping up i guess. no prizes for guessing which team has the highest percentage of wins by a given race. lol jaedongoz poor jangbi | ||
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yoonyoon
Korea (South)1065 Posts
But thanks anyways ='[ | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
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seRapH
United States9780 Posts
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Murderotica
Vatican City State2594 Posts
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FaCE_1
Canada6183 Posts
Poor JD... Woongi Zerg ftw ! | ||
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RezChi
Canada2368 Posts
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
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Day[9]
United States7366 Posts
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mustaju
Estonia4504 Posts
On November 14 2010 10:03 Day[9] wrote: That is such an absolutely beautiful data representation. Fucking fantastic. Gosh this makes me want to go play w/ more data visualizations and the like ! :D :D :D I'm somewhat surprised to see you post in the BW forum. O.o | ||
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pvzvt
Israel2097 Posts
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Murderotica
Vatican City State2594 Posts
On November 14 2010 10:13 mustaju wrote: I'm somewhat surprised to see you post in the BW forum. O.o Why's that? Just because he mostly talks about SC2 now doesn't mean he doesn't appreciate BW | ||
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IntoTheEmo
Singapore1169 Posts
Lol at the tiny blue slice of the pie chart on Oz wins. Lomo 0 win HiyA 1 (now 2) /facepalm Don't worry fellow Oz fans at least we are balanced when it comes to losses... rofl | ||
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mustaju
Estonia4504 Posts
On November 15 2010 01:52 Murderotica wrote: Why's that? Just because he mostly talks about SC2 now doesn't mean he doesn't appreciate BW The last post I saw from him was in july. I sincerely thought he'd turned his back on the scene. Then again, it doesn't matter, does it? | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
lol at jangbi! | ||
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Taosu
Ukraine1074 Posts
On November 14 2010 10:03 Day[9] wrote: That is such an absolutely beautiful data representation. Fucking fantastic. Gosh this makes me want to go play w/ more data visualizations and the like ! :D :D :D Thank you man! I'm very pleased. I'll keep this stats up to date. | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
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29 fps
United States5725 Posts
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scrubtastic
1166 Posts
Thanks! | ||
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Kibibit
United States1551 Posts
On November 15 2010 05:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Jangbi is making me angry Ditto. : | I always feel bad enough when a protoss loses, but when it's someone I expect better out of (especially on the slightly Protoss favoured maps), It crushes my soul. Stop hurting me, Jangbi. | ||
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Taosu
Ukraine1074 Posts
To mods: please change the title of my topic to "Team Graphs after the First Round [Updated]". Thank you. | ||
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Bisu-Fan
Russian Federation3336 Posts
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moopie
12605 Posts
On November 15 2010 11:13 Kibibit wrote: Ditto. : | I always feel bad enough when a protoss loses, but when it's someone I expect better out of (especially on the slightly Protoss favoured maps), It crushes my soul. Stop hurting me, Jangbi. On the plus side, he should be really cheap for FPL, so if you truly have faith, you have a chance to make out like a bandit. Also: JD is 9-3 for round 1, not 9-2. | ||
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Taosu
Ukraine1074 Posts
On November 18 2010 06:06 moopie wrote: Also: JD is 9-3 for round 1, not 9-2. Thank you. Fixed. | ||
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Taosu
Ukraine1074 Posts
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moopie
12605 Posts
There's some other issues, your numbers don't add up. Oz is 22-33 (for a -11 overall). You somehow have 27-28. You do have the correct W-L per player now (after the JD fix), your totals are just off. You can always double check here: http://www.e-sports.or.kr/static/proleague.kea?m_code=static_11 | ||
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Taosu
Ukraine1074 Posts
On November 18 2010 06:33 moopie wrote: There's some other issues, your numbers don't add up. Oz is 22-33 (for a -11 overall). You somehow have 27-28. Thanks again. I noticed this before myself but somehow this mistake made its way into the picture. Fixed. | ||
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pred470r
Bulgaria3265 Posts
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moopie
12605 Posts
On November 18 2010 06:41 Taosu wrote: Thanks again. I noticed this before myself but somehow this mistake made its way into the picture. Fixed. Awesome, good job | ||
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TheNessman
United States4158 Posts
You can really see why woojing stars is doing so well, with a pretty deep lineup of solid players, even when one or two of them looses, the other ones can bring it them back in the game and win the match. Recipe for success. I guess this is also true for MBCHero and WeMade Fox... But i don't like them as much hahah. KT not doing so well!! :O :O :O Oz.... dammit. JANGBI!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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vectorix108
United States4633 Posts
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tenacity
1587 Posts
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Taosu
Ukraine1074 Posts
On November 18 2010 07:24 tenacity wrote: how did you do those graphs? with excel? Yeah, I used excel to make the pie charts. I drew the bar graphs manually with photoshop. | ||
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opsayo
591 Posts
and lool @ jangbi | ||
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astalkulo
United States444 Posts
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
Pity FPL didn't start on R1.... Cool charts! Although I know SKT's streak won't continue forever, it still warms my heart to see those nice bars. Soo's rise was certainly a surprise. Same goes for KT's performance. | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
On November 18 2010 12:48 dukethegold wrote: I usually get Bisu and SKT blind in FPL and that didn't work out well for me last season. Pity FPL didn't start on R1.... Cool charts! Although I know SKT's streak won't continue forever, it still warms my heart to see those nice bars. Soo's rise was certainly a surprise. Same goes for KT's performance. Pretty much this I always have Bisu and BoxeR on my FPL. | ||
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swanized
Canada2480 Posts
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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Cheeseburgered
United States716 Posts
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
one thing to note though is how thin the balance in bo7 often times is.... every 2-4 loss of kt or oz could have been a win for them if only one game went otherwise, so they reach the ace where they can send their monster player. but i love how the oh-so-praised depth of kt is crumbling .... i still remember around the time of the pl finals that all the kt fans were telling us skt fans things along the lines of "our non-star players are much better and more solid than yours, our protoss lineup is stronger than urs." ya, sure.... 19-4 vs 7-11.  i also like how flash went for a fantastic 9-1 record this round and still his team is in 8th place.... basically in 5 out of 9 games, he won his game but his teammates couldnt win 2 out of 5 games... | ||
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Nitan
United States3401 Posts
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
On November 18 2010 13:42 Black Gun wrote: lol, skt tosses went for a stunning combined 19-4 this round. oO one thing to note though is how thin the balance in bo7 often times is.... every 2-4 loss of kt or oz could have been a win for them if only one game went otherwise, so they reach the ace where they can send their monster player. but i love how the oh-so-praised depth of kt is crumbling .... i still remember around the time of the pl finals that all the kt fans were telling us skt fans things along the lines of "our non-star players are much better and more solid than yours, our protoss lineup is stronger than urs." ya, sure.... 19-4 vs 7-11. i also like how flash went for a fantastic 9-1 record this round and still his team is in 8th place.... basically in 5 out of 9 games, he won his game but his teammates couldnt win 2 out of 5 games... Well they were when it most mattered. | ||
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matjlav
Germany2435 Posts
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scrubtastic
1166 Posts
SKToss1 apparently - poor Fantasy is still alone Thanks for the graphs, they're very informative and great-looking. | ||
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Ducci
United States588 Posts
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Hyde
Australia14568 Posts
Look how far Jangbi and Hiya have fallen. | ||
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kOre
Canada3642 Posts
 Too bad Bisu is going to cost a crap load of points though ... | ||
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ReketSomething
United States6012 Posts
Also, turn and brave what the heck are they doing..... | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
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Pvvned
United States405 Posts
I have no doubt that KT will turn it around, but OZ will likely have a horrible record until winner's league where they can snatch a few wins. | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On November 18 2010 15:19 matjlav wrote: I really wish that MBC would switch Saint out of the main lineup for someone else -_- there really has to be someone better... There isn't. Everyone else outside of these 6 players are either recent draft picks or long-time practice partners. Saint is a good teacher and he's well-liked in the team so it's not bad. He's capable of much better I think but most players don't perform well once they become captain. Edit: Thanks for the new graph, really cool | ||
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Jragon
Australia1471 Posts
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
(Previous year's stats include Proleague + playoffs, Winner's League + playoffs. No Dream League.) Hot: The top of the pack.  Bisu: 10-0 (1-0 Ace). (09-10: 30-23.) Flash: 9-1 (0-1 Ace). (09-10: 61-16.) Jaedong: 9-3 (1-2 Ace). (09-10: 52-21.)ZerO: 8-3 (2-0 Ace). (09-10: 40-28.)Honorable Mention: Sea 7-3 (2-0 Ace). (09-10: 34-21.)Should be better: Good players with underwhelming numbers. Stork: 4-5 (1-0 Ace). (09-10: 36-21.)Leta: 4-4 (09-10: 44-27.)Light: 3-7 (0-1 Ace). (09-10: 49-32.)Calm: 2-4 (09-10: 33-27.)Dis-honorable Mention: Stats: 5-5 (09-10: 20-11.)Up-and-coming: Guys who've become reasonably scary within a year or so of their A-team debut. TurN: 7-0 (09-10: 1-5.)Brave: 5-1 (09-10: 4-4.)n.Die_soO: 6-2 (09-10: 10-15.)Neo.G_Soulkey: 7-3 (0-1 Ace.) (09-10: 15-11.)Snow: 6-3 (09-10: 22-15.)Honorable Mention: Tyson: 5-5 (1-0 Ace.) (09-10: 13-10.)Stopped sucking: No longer big losers! Plus: new ACE player syndrome? Really: 6-3 (09-10: 37-32. R4, 5: 9-15.)Jaehoon: 6-3 (09-10: 10-17.)ggaemo: 5-4 (09-10: 2-6.)PerfectMan: 4-4 (09-10: 3-15.)Honorable Mention: firebathero: 3-3 (09-10: 14-22.)Why?: Why do you keep getting sent out? And then losing? Team out of players, or slumping. JangBi: 0-7 (09-10: 25-23.)Saint: 2-6 (09-10: 6-6.)HiyA: 2-7 (09-10: 37-26.)Violet: 1-5 (09-10: 22-19.)RuBy: 1-5 (09-10: 21-36.)Modesty: 0-4 (09-10: 11-11.)Tempest: 0-4 (09-10: 7-4.)Lomo: 0-4 (09-10: 8-17.)Sky[kaL]: 0-4 (09-10: 0-1.)Dis-honorable Mention: Rock 0-3 (09-10: 0-2.)Edit: M18M was originally going to be on "stopped sucking," but he had a better record last year than this year (4-2)! Ace Matches: BeSt > FlashSea > JangBiJaedong > ModestyBisu > SoulKeyHydra > freeStork > JaedongZerO > LightZerO > JaedongSea > PureTyson > Stats | ||
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Taosu
Ukraine1074 Posts
On November 18 2010 16:38 ]343[ wrote: To sum up the obvious? For FPL? The main question is when is it going to start. | ||
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
On November 18 2010 16:38 ]343[ wrote: To sum up the obvious? For FPL? (Previous year's stats include Proleague + playoffs, Winner's League + playoffs. No Dream League.) Why?: Why do you keep getting sent out? And then losing? Team out of players, or slumping. JangBi: 0-7 (09-10: 25-23.)This guy makes me sad for him .. ((((((((((((((((((((( | ||
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Piste
6181 Posts
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moopie
12605 Posts
On November 18 2010 17:58 Piste wrote: it's a good day to be a bisu + flash fan 8) Bad day to be a KT + STX fan. | ||
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mustaju
Estonia4504 Posts
horrible day to be a jangbi + Oz fan. Fortunately for me, I belong to the slightly better STX+Stars fanclub. | ||
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Bisu-Fan
Russian Federation3336 Posts
just lost it at the end... | ||
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soujiro_
Uruguay5195 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17621 Posts
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3clipse
Canada2555 Posts
On November 18 2010 19:33 mustaju wrote: horrible day to be a jangbi + Oz fan. Fortunately for me, I belong to the slightly better STX+Stars fanclub. Bad day to be a Calm fan, good day to be a Jangbi anti-fan. | ||
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Taosu
Ukraine1074 Posts
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
On December 07 2010 01:45 Taosu wrote: Ok guys, gonna update the chart after this week finishes. How do you like it: from the very beginning of the season or current round only? why not both? XD" but if i had to choose, id probably want .... damn, i cant decide. XD" | ||
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Craton
United States17274 Posts
On December 07 2010 01:45 Taosu wrote: Ok guys, gonna update the chart after this week finishes. How do you like it: from the very beginning of the season or current round only? Ideally both, but otherwise just the current round. It's generally more useful to see current stats to see how players are trending. | ||
Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
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MisteR
Netherlands595 Posts
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