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wswordsmen
Profile Joined October 2007
United States987 Posts
November 02 2010 08:06 GMT
#21
On November 02 2010 15:28 PH wrote:
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On November 02 2010 14:36 FractalsOnFire wrote:
On November 02 2010 04:45 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Great article!

It makes me immensely happy that they chose Starcraft for this competition and I just hope this kind of competitions continue.
As long as they don't switch to SC2 of course


Wouldn't SC2 be easier to program for? Easier mechanics... MBS, automining etc...

I dunno that's just the way i see it.

People have been building AIs for BW for a long time now. This competition probably started long before SC2 was released.

Furthermore, BW has been broken down more, probably making implementing anything much easier. Not to mention its simple graphics make it easier to run.

It was announced towards the end of '09. I think they gave everyone 1 year to develop their AIs.
Redcloak
Profile Joined December 2002
United States530 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-02 16:28:21
November 02 2010 16:24 GMT
#22
They need data to design these kinds of AIs. There's incredible replay resources available for StarCraft, and the core strategies are fairly set.

If they designed an AI for SC2, it'd have to be completedly changed on a regular basis to match the evolution of the game by players and balance changes.

Just a practical decision to go with the more constant game.

Update:BTW, whoever said this guy did WCG in 2001, was that a guess? I checked the 2001 finals player list (and '02, '03) he's not on any of them. I was much more active around that time, so I expected to have heard of the guy .
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thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-02 17:57:11
November 02 2010 17:54 GMT
#23
On November 02 2010 13:46 nihoh wrote:
can't you make an AI that kites every unit in an army optimally?


That's what they did, I think. They had some pretty impressive videos of air armies kiting the shit out of ground armies. You can check out some of the youtube videos on TL.

Edit:

here you go:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=107185

PS who is this world class player?
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
November 02 2010 18:01 GMT
#24
Sorry if I'm ignorant, but are there VODs of this tournament? I know there were VODs of the AIs as they were being developed, but I basically want to see the finals of the AI vs AI tournament.
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hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
November 02 2010 18:12 GMT
#25
Interesting article. It will sure be interesting to see how far bots can go in sc, I mean when the BWAPI project first emerged most people would never have expected them to come this far.
HeaDStrong
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Scotland785 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-02 18:57:37
November 02 2010 18:56 GMT
#26
On November 03 2010 03:01 Chill wrote:
Sorry if I'm ignorant, but are there VODs of this tournament? I know there were VODs of the AIs as they were being developed, but I basically want to see the finals of the AI vs AI tournament.


dont think there were any vods but i sure downloaded all the replays from the tournament, the link was somewhere here on TL.

there were a couple vods of the micro battles and some highlights but that's all i found. (probably the things you already saw)
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9500 Posts
November 02 2010 19:05 GMT
#27
On November 03 2010 03:01 Chill wrote:
Sorry if I'm ignorant, but are there VODs of this tournament? I know there were VODs of the AIs as they were being developed, but I basically want to see the finals of the AI vs AI tournament.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=160539
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=165103
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Trap
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States395 Posts
November 02 2010 19:19 GMT
#28
I just watched the "world class" player vs the Terran bot... it looked like the bot was going to win for a while there. Not a surprise since humanity's champion went for 1 base elevator on Python. The bot's use of SCVs vs DTs was impressive, too bad they didn't program it to leave a tank sieged in the main at all times.
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