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fishyjoes
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Germany644 Posts
September 01 2010 22:17 GMT
#41
I believe!
infinite fun: http://dagobah.biz/flash/loituma.swf
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
September 01 2010 22:18 GMT
#42
On September 02 2010 07:05 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
Q: Compared to MSL, OSL maps are said to be slightly better for the zerg in ZvT.

- Maps don't matter too much. I don't have too many concerns or comments regarding the map pool. The maps weren't bad for both leagues anyway. I don't want to criticize or blame the maps.


suck it jaedong fanboys. unfortunately this will still not be enough to stop people from discrediting flash's msl win due to maps


Fanboys will always be fanboys. Kind of annoying though regardless...

Good to see Jaedong deflecting that map comment and not blaming shit on "imba-ness" and deciding to simply work harder. Good for him.
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
September 01 2010 22:22 GMT
#43
damn it. i was hoping for a (P)Stork Win... T_T
but oh well i guess this is (Z)Jaedong's chance for redemption
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2599 Posts
September 01 2010 22:29 GMT
#44
Sad to see him so tired... he should know that condition is everything in BW, so he should fix himself up first : )
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
September 01 2010 22:39 GMT
#45
On September 02 2010 06:22 Lightningbullet wrote:
Chinese Jaedong fans? Is that true? Well, I'm in America and my vacation is next summer. Didn't CVhina move on to DotA and SC2? Oh wait, China has laggy internet, no way. Saying that, China will probably be the last Brood War city eventually.


pretty much everything in this post is wrong
Mylin
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden177 Posts
September 01 2010 22:44 GMT
#46
Q: Can you fly yet?

- Physics and gravity are still quite challenging but I believe if I just practice harder I'll be able to overcome such hinders.
no
StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1739 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 22:56:12
September 01 2010 22:52 GMT
#47
On September 02 2010 07:05 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
Q: Compared to MSL, OSL maps are said to be slightly better for the zerg in ZvT.

- Maps don't matter too much. I don't have too many concerns or comments regarding the map pool. The maps weren't bad for both leagues anyway. I don't want to criticize or blame the maps.


suck it jaedong fanboys. unfortunately this will still not be enough to stop people from discrediting flash's msl win due to maps


His quote speaks more about his character than the balance of maps.
The maps weren't overwhelmingly Terran favoring but you have to admit there was quite a tilt.
Ars longa, vita brevis, principia aeturna.
Delerium
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States324 Posts
September 01 2010 22:54 GMT
#48
On September 02 2010 07:44 Mylin wrote:
Q: Can you fly yet?

- Physics and gravity are still quite challenging but I believe if I just practice harder I'll be able to overcome such hinders.

I'm quoting this post because it highlights the unreasonableness of saying "Jaedong doesn't mind the maps, so they're totally fair!!"

Jaedong is saying the maps are fine because A) it would be look bad to blame the maps B) it's the wrong mindset for winning, as already explained. But the maps aren't "fine". It's not being said to discredit Flash, it's because we as fans aren't getting the showdown we deserve. When was the last time Flash and Jaedong got to play a best of 5 vs one another where every map played was balanced for the matchup?

What was it someone said a while back? "How to win a starleague title: have really good mirrors and wait until the maps favor your race." Protoss didn't dominate during the 6 dragons era for no reason, same with Swarm Season.
rockon1215
Profile Joined May 2009
United States612 Posts
September 01 2010 23:02 GMT
#49
I believe in Lee Jae Dong
Flash v Jaedong The finals that is ALWAYS meant to be
Evil_Monkey_
Profile Joined May 2003
Denmark296 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 23:26:32
September 01 2010 23:25 GMT
#50
On September 02 2010 06:22 Lightningbullet wrote:
Chinese Jaedong fans? Is that true? Well, I'm in America and my vacation is next summer. Didn't CVhina move on to DotA and SC2? Oh wait, China has laggy internet, no way. Saying that, China will probably be the last Brood War city eventually.

Is there really any need to dis China just because a Chinese person writes on the boards? Maybe if you actually tried going to China you would learn something............
........
Mumei
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States270 Posts
September 01 2010 23:46 GMT
#51
On September 02 2010 07:54 Delerium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 07:44 Mylin wrote:
Q: Can you fly yet?

- Physics and gravity are still quite challenging but I believe if I just practice harder I'll be able to overcome such hinders.

I'm quoting this post because it highlights the unreasonableness of saying "Jaedong doesn't mind the maps, so they're totally fair!!"

Jaedong is saying the maps are fine because A) it would be look bad to blame the maps B) it's the wrong mindset for winning, as already explained. But the maps aren't "fine". It's not being said to discredit Flash, it's because we as fans aren't getting the showdown we deserve. When was the last time Flash and Jaedong got to play a best of 5 vs one another where every map played was balanced for the matchup?


Agreed.

I think the OSL could be good with regards to maps, though. We could possibly get one ZvT imbalanced map in Dreamliner, two TvZ imbalanced map in Polaris Rhapsody and (just going from the win / loss rates) Grand Line SE (where Jaedong and Flash recently had one of their most entertaining games in a long time), and a relatively even map twice, assuming Eye of the Storm is the double map.

I'm really hoping for that - Eye of the Storm, Grand Line SE, Dreamliner, Polaris Rhapsody, Eye of the Storm - if Free doesn't upset Flash in the semifinals.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
September 01 2010 23:58 GMT
#52
On September 02 2010 07:39 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 06:22 Lightningbullet wrote:
Chinese Jaedong fans? Is that true? Well, I'm in America and my vacation is next summer. Didn't CVhina move on to DotA and SC2? Oh wait, China has laggy internet, no way. Saying that, China will probably be the last Brood War city eventually.


pretty much everything in this post is wrong

Yeah, really. Especially China being a city.
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
September 02 2010 00:02 GMT
#53
On September 02 2010 06:22 Lightningbullet wrote:
Chinese Jaedong fans? Is that true? Well, I'm in America and my vacation is next summer. Didn't CVhina move on to DotA and SC2? Oh wait, China has laggy internet, no way. Saying that, China will probably be the last Brood War city eventually.


Are you from China city? I love it there! It has over 1 billion people so its kinda crowded, but its still nice .

As much as Jaedong's character prevents him from blaming the maps, anyone can see that they slightly favored terran. This OSL finals will be awesome!

+ Show Spoiler +
If Free beats Flash T_T
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
jyLee
Profile Joined August 2009
United States350 Posts
September 02 2010 00:36 GMT
#54
Just because JD doesnt blame maps doesnt mean they arent imbalanced. I think most logical fans complain only because it robs them of what could be amazingly epic games where one side doesnt have to utilize risky builds just so they can even the odds back to a 50/50 chance. That being said there are way too many JD/Flash fanboy turds that blindly defend their heros that are the cause of all the raging. Anyway the OSL map pool is better overall so regardless of who JD faces it should be great games.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
September 02 2010 00:38 GMT
#55
On September 02 2010 04:49 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2010 03:41 OpticalShot wrote:
Q: Compared to MSL, OSL maps are said to be slightly better for the zerg in ZvT.

- Maps don't matter too much. I don't have too many concerns or comments regarding the map pool. The maps weren't bad for both leagues anyway. I don't want to criticize or blame the maps.

Fuck yeah, the Dong is so manly. Sometimes his fanboys makes me dislike him due to their annoying constant whining about Terran/map imba, but he himself is such a baller that I just have to love him. Go JD!


says the jaedong fanboy! ha!

gogo Jaedong! Please win the OSL
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
September 02 2010 00:51 GMT
#56
On September 02 2010 07:05 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
Q: Compared to MSL, OSL maps are said to be slightly better for the zerg in ZvT.

- Maps don't matter too much. I don't have too many concerns or comments regarding the map pool. The maps weren't bad for both leagues anyway. I don't want to criticize or blame the maps.


suck it jaedong fanboys. unfortunately this will still not be enough to stop people from discrediting flash's msl win due to maps

I thought it was established that jaedong played like shit? He even said so himself in the interview!
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-02 01:26:49
September 02 2010 01:06 GMT
#57
Sir Jaedong is the man. I liked how he doesn't consider losing 2:3 to Flash as a close result, and almost treats it as a huge loss; and is happy with the maps / thinks they don't matter much. I hope he wins this OSL, and makes a new BW history.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Garaman
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States556 Posts
September 02 2010 01:17 GMT
#58

Q: Compared to MSL, OSL maps are said to be slightly better for the zerg in ZvT.

- Maps don't matter too much. I don't have too many concerns or comments regarding the map pool. The maps weren't bad for both leagues anyway. I don't want to criticize or blame the maps.


if this was bisu, he would be like, fukc the maps~~ imbaa~~
haha
but newayz, i hope jaedong makes history.
comon jaedong, 4 osl! beat flash!
polgas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1784 Posts
September 02 2010 06:01 GMT
#59
This series was tense! Dongalings are too good!
Leee Jaee Doong
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
September 02 2010 06:01 GMT
#60
On September 02 2010 10:17 Garaman wrote:
Show nested quote +

Q: Compared to MSL, OSL maps are said to be slightly better for the zerg in ZvT.

- Maps don't matter too much. I don't have too many concerns or comments regarding the map pool. The maps weren't bad for both leagues anyway. I don't want to criticize or blame the maps.


if this was bisu, he would be like, fukc the maps~~ imbaa~~
haha
but newayz, i hope jaedong makes history.
comon jaedong, 4 osl! beat flash!

Protoss have a much much harder time dealing with bullshit in maps. Remember tears of the moon(protoss)? No real solution to that at all. 85% ZvP.
I don't think it's ever as hopeless for terrans/zergs, even on Zergliner and Terran Eye.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
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