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The call of the LeeSsang Rok!

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Thorin
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
601 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 16:32:16
August 27 2010 16:30 GMT
#1
With (T)Flash and (Z)Jaedong set to go in the MSL final for the third time in a row I've put together a pretty long preview for the series which reviews and recaps the entire history of their rivalry.

Contains:

-Relevant statistics/records
-Recaps of every bracket play series the two have played in individual competition
-Why the LeeSsang Rok is a better rivalry than the Lim-Jin Rok ((T)BoxeR vs.(Z)YellOw)
-How the (T)Flash vs. (Z)Jaedong rivalry has evolved over the years as the 'Little Monster' vs. the 'Legend killer' became the 'Ultimate Weapon' vs. the 'Tyrant'.
-VOD links for every map in their playoff bracket matches


Soak in the history of the best rivalry in competitive South Korean StarCraft history and get yourself ready for the next chapter tomorrow morning (if you're not South Korean)

Read the full preview here: The call of the LeeSsang Rok!.

Thanks a lot to all of the resources I used to put this together, it may only last a day in terms of ultimate relevance but it was a work of passion.
alypse
Profile Joined May 2010
2784 Posts
August 27 2010 16:37 GMT
#2
Nicely done. Pretty long article. That's a good read. Thank you.
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Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
August 27 2010 16:40 GMT
#3
Nice article so far. I think that usurping the LimJinRok is a bit much, but making a new era of rivalry is more appropriate. For sure this is the greatest modern rivalry, but saying that it is more epic than LimJin is somewhat ignorant of the state of things back when they were both huge. There is a reason why Yellow and Boxer play each other in all-stars matches and they draw so much attention, in a time when neither can live up to the skills of Flash and Jaedong. It's a new era, and thus a new rivalry, not a better one.
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HeadhunteR
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Argentina1258 Posts
August 27 2010 16:42 GMT
#4
On August 28 2010 01:37 alypse wrote:
Nicely done. Pretty long article. That's a good read. Thank you.


hell yeah great article!! will read further into it before I watch the finals..
in The Kong line forever
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
August 27 2010 16:42 GMT
#5
great article, thanks for writing up all that history
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Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
August 27 2010 16:52 GMT
#6
Just read all of this. Seriously, nice work on this article. Lengthy, but good. :D
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
August 27 2010 16:57 GMT
#7
On August 28 2010 01:30 amarillo wrote:
...it may only last a day in terms of ultimate relevance...

I think it'll last longer than that.
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Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
August 27 2010 17:24 GMT
#8
Thanks for this great wright up, really appreciate the effort, reading now!
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bmml
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom962 Posts
August 27 2010 17:28 GMT
#9
Cool article great hype for the finals tommorow :3.
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
August 27 2010 17:35 GMT
#10
Great work!
KTY
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
August 27 2010 17:38 GMT
#11
HYPE HYPE I am so happy they are going to rematch after their last little Finals encounter was disrupted. GO FLASH!
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
August 27 2010 17:45 GMT
#12
Thanks for writing this, it got me pumped for tonight's MSL final!
I drop suckas like Plinko
SkyLegenD
Profile Joined February 2010
United States304 Posts
August 27 2010 17:45 GMT
#13
Awesome read~
"Victory belongs to the most persevering." - Napoleon Bonaparte
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
August 27 2010 17:52 GMT
#14
Urgh, I can't wait for these games. I don't know how I'll cope though....during Flash's match against Leta today my teeth were clacking from nerves the whole way through, and that was just the R08 >___<
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 18:27:14
August 27 2010 18:27 GMT
#15
nice job ^^
Writer
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 18:49:40
August 27 2010 18:47 GMT
#16
In their last 17 meetings Flash has likewise won 10 maps for an identical 58.82%. [...] Take the WCG finals out of the picture for a moment as a thought experiment, for the reasons listed before, and Flash has won 10 of the last 15 for 66.66%.


WCG finals was three sets, so if you take them out Flash has won 9 out of the last 14 for 64%

He has twice as many golds as Jaedong in 2010 and two silvers to Jaedong's zero.


Jaedong has a silver from losing to Flash D:

I'm just nitpicking though hehe. Nice article
OrderlyChaos
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1115 Posts
August 27 2010 18:48 GMT
#17
This is an amazing article. I'm pretty hyped for this final! Gotta love the LeeSsang Rok
rockon1215
Profile Joined May 2009
United States612 Posts
August 27 2010 19:38 GMT
#18
HYPE! HYPE! HYPE!

Nice job

LEE JAE DONG FIGHTING
Flash v Jaedong The finals that is ALWAYS meant to be
Misanthrope
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States924 Posts
August 27 2010 20:37 GMT
#19
Great write up man, that's epic. The MSL finals just got hyped 133.7% more for me!

LEE JAE DONG HWAITING!!!!!
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33625 Posts
August 27 2010 20:39 GMT
#20
whoa, that's fucking comprehensive :D
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moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
August 27 2010 20:46 GMT
#21
Nice writeup, but BoxeR/YellOw will always top it for me.
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Nal_rAwr
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2611 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 20:54:49
August 27 2010 20:52 GMT
#22
heh boxer vs yellow is still the best rivalry i think
they've played twice as many games as flash and jaedong
Nony is Bonjwa
NIJ
Profile Joined March 2010
1012 Posts
August 27 2010 21:03 GMT
#23
I thought jd had more gold. And that he's been around longer.
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Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
August 27 2010 21:19 GMT
#24
great read!
GO LEE JAEDONG.
Jaedong.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
August 27 2010 21:21 GMT
#25
Nice article. Hyped up!
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Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 22:40:29
August 27 2010 21:53 GMT
#26
This turned into a Jaedong positive though as he won the fourth, displaying classic Jaedong anger face demolition and truly wreaking Tyrant-esque terror as he infested two of Light's command centers to really show what happens when you fuck with Jaedong and piss him off.


I watched these games yesterday... LOLed so hard when I saw that XD
Jaedong.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
August 27 2010 22:39 GMT
#27
Nice write-up!

Fianlly the hype started
shadesofkarma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Romania708 Posts
August 27 2010 22:53 GMT
#28
Great and timely write-up!

Nicely done ^_^
Thorin
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
601 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 01:20:34
August 28 2010 01:19 GMT
#29
Thanks for the feedback, this is the first proper SC1 article I've written but I would hope not the last as I continue to learn more about this incredible game.

When there's a big MMA match the next day I'm the kind of guy who spends the day before it lounging and watching/rewatching all the fights of each guy, reading everything I can and thinking about how they'll match up. It's my aim people could take a similar route thanks to this piece and get their head in the perfect spot by soaking up all the great matches these two have played and building up a bank of cool storylines to sustain them in the final. For anyone who knew everything in the piece perhaps they got a gentle reminder of a few points which were fading

It can take a lot of work, as I learned here ^^, but hype doesn't always have to have a fake overenthusiastic element to it. If the matchup is genuinely interesting enough you can find the storylines to pump yourself up even further for a legendary matchup

There is really no matchup in the entire world of Esports which electrifies me like this one, I literally have no idea what will happen regardless of form or map when these two fight. They're the two players who it feels like could do anything against anyone and overcome any odds. I've watched a lot of other Esports matches but this is the only one for which I'll wake up at any time any day to watch live if there are streams :D
smekz
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal503 Posts
August 28 2010 02:21 GMT
#30
amazing read, great work! thanks
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
August 28 2010 02:41 GMT
#31
great article, very indepth and well written
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LRM)TechnicS
Profile Joined May 2008
Bulgaria1565 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-17 09:24:36
January 17 2017 09:21 GMT
#32
Another read to have before the LeeSsang Rok and great title to have visible in the BW General section if you ask me.

(edit: This is an old post, the article is about a final that underwent August, 2010, but still has some content there to get a feel of the LeeSSang Rok)
Enjoy the game
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19366 Posts
January 17 2017 09:37 GMT
#33
Other then Flash's medal count being wrong by a lot (he has six golds 3 OSLs, 3 MSLs) this was a nice read. Thanks for the continued love Thorin.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2750 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-17 11:24:41
January 17 2017 11:23 GMT
#34
On January 17 2017 18:37 BisuDagger wrote:
Other then Flash's medal count being wrong by a lot (he has six golds 3 OSLs, 3 MSLs) this was a nice read. Thanks for the continued love Thorin.
The write-up was made before the Bigfile MSL (before Flash's 2nd MSL gold and 3rd OSL gold). At that time Flash had only 2 OSL wins (2007 Bacchus, 2009 EVER) and his most recent MSL win at Hana Daetoo.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19366 Posts
January 17 2017 13:42 GMT
#35
LOL, didn't see this was a necro thread. Too good haha.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-17 14:12:08
January 17 2017 14:08 GMT
#36
I'm glad that you got snagged by this, BisuDagger.

And that you admitted it.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19366 Posts
January 17 2017 14:48 GMT
#37
On January 17 2017 23:08 IntoTheheart wrote:
I'm glad that you got snagged by this, BisuDagger.

And that you admitted it.

^_^ Speaking of snagged, everyone should come watch my stream for the ASL finals! http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Broodwar4lyf
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
304 Posts
January 17 2017 14:58 GMT
#38
Boxer vs Yellow was never this competitive. Boxer always won, at least with Flash vs Jaedong there's some back and forth
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