• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:36
CEST 02:36
KST 09:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off0[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway132v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature4Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy9uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event18
Community News
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris28Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again!13Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6
StarCraft 2
General
What mix of new and old maps do you want in the next 1v1 ladder pool? (SC2) : 2v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Monday Nights Weeklies Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below
Brood War
General
No Rain in ASL20? BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off Flash On His 2010 "God" Form, Mind Games, vs JD BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro24 Group B [ASL20] Ro24 Group C BWCL Season 63 Announcement [CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Dawn of War IV Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The year 2050 European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
High temperatures on bridge(s) Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment"
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale
Blogs
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Breaking the Meta: Non-Stand…
TrAiDoS
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3542 users

Has an S-class player ever been Sold? - Page 4

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
August 09 2010 21:47 GMT
#61
Leta is ABOUT to be traded. People will see that he is S class once he is on a team that doesn't actually suck.

He is 60% plus is 3 of the 4 matchups. thats S class.
~~! youtube.com/xmungam1 !~~
dani_caliKorea
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
730 Posts
August 09 2010 22:07 GMT
#62
GGPlay from CJ to Hanbit
dani_caliKorea
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
730 Posts
August 09 2010 22:07 GMT
#63
On August 10 2010 06:47 TheNessman wrote:
Leta is ABOUT to be traded. People will see that he is S class once he is on a team that doesn't actually suck.

He is 60% plus is 3 of the 4 matchups. thats S class.



3 of the 4...??
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
August 09 2010 22:14 GMT
#64
ummmm

nal_ra from suma GO to ktf
reach from hanbitstars to ktf
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
August 09 2010 22:15 GMT
#65
On August 10 2010 06:47 TheNessman wrote:
Leta is ABOUT to be traded. People will see that he is S class once he is on a team that doesn't actually suck.

He is 60% plus is 3 of the 4 matchups. thats S class.


leta is garbage and always will be
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
MageKirby
Profile Joined July 2009
United States535 Posts
August 09 2010 22:18 GMT
#66
did July move from somewhere? I think mbc to stx
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
August 09 2010 22:20 GMT
#67
On August 10 2010 07:18 MageKirby wrote:
did July move from somewhere? I think mbc to stx


mbc -> skt t1 -> stx

only stayed on t1 for a couple months
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
August 09 2010 22:23 GMT
#68
On August 10 2010 06:47 TheNessman wrote:
Leta is ABOUT to be traded. People will see that he is S class once he is on a team that doesn't actually suck.

He is 60% plus is 3 of the 4 matchups. thats S class.
Leta doesn't have anything to show for it despite his strong PL play.
jyLee
Profile Joined August 2009
United States350 Posts
August 09 2010 22:25 GMT
#69
On August 10 2010 00:38 ilbh wrote:
bisu was traded from MBC to SKT1
forGG from OZ to KT
luxury from stars to KT
puma from eSTRO to sparkyz
suny from eSTRO to KT
kwanro from CJ to stars

that is all I can remember now


Dude he said S-class not Shit class.
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
August 09 2010 22:34 GMT
#70
On August 10 2010 07:23 hystorm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 06:47 TheNessman wrote:
Leta is ABOUT to be traded. People will see that he is S class once he is on a team that doesn't actually suck.

He is 60% plus is 3 of the 4 matchups. thats S class.
Leta doesn't have anything to show for it despite his strong PL play.


Hard to prepare for proleague when you have both captain and ace responsibilities to a team that currently has 2 good players (including the ace).

Leta has outgrown his gimmicky bs into a solid player, and it seems like he doesn't receive much love because he has to carry a team that doesn't really go anywhere for some time now because of the match-fixing and didn't get far in proleague because he has to carry said team. The guy ain't S-class, but he should receive more recognition.
Fan of the Jangbanger
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
August 09 2010 22:50 GMT
#71
On August 10 2010 00:37 synapse wrote:
Bisu went from MBC to SKT a pretty long time ago, don't know if you would consider him "at his prime" at the time.

rofl are you kidding me? that was his primest of primez
You can't fight the feeling.
yanmaodao
Profile Joined February 2010
United States430 Posts
August 09 2010 22:52 GMT
#72
On August 10 2010 03:57 Sunyveil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 02:14 Roffles wrote:
On August 10 2010 02:06 yeti wrote:
(Z)July was the best player to be traded. (only golden mouse)
He even won the golden mouse after joining STX
I believe his trades were
MBC—>SKT—>STX


While July's the most decorated (Bisu has 3 MSLs too but ehh), when he was traded, his ZvT and ZvZ were already outmatched by most great players. His third OSL run was probably one of the easiest, thanks to him meeting up with Backho and Best (PvZ duncebuckets).

HOLD IT

Didn't he play ROCK and Backho? How on earth can you say that they are both PvZ duncebuckets? BOTH OF THEM HAVE WINNING RECORDS AGAINST JAEDONG ON TELEVISED MATCHES. I'll say it again. BOTH OF THEM HAVE WINNING RECORDS AGAINST JAEDONG ON TELEVISED MATCHES.

July lost only ONE game in that OSL that meant anything (A group round loss after he qualified doesn't count). And that was to Backho. Heck, he even beat Best after a failed 4 (5?) pool! Following that OSL, he was one of the only zergs still kicking in the scene, in addition to Jaedong and Luxury. None of the zergs were having any luck with ZvT. Don't believe me? Check old power ranks. If that isn't S-Class, I don't know what is. All revitalized shortly after his SKT -> STX trade.


When JD first started, ZvP was actually his weak point. So I don't think vJaedong stats for Protosses who hit their peak prior to 2008 says very much. I love Tushin, but his third OSL win was the softest in recent history.
nitdkim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1264 Posts
August 09 2010 22:57 GMT
#73
rofl the thread got a little sidetracked arguing who was S class and who wasn't...

I'd agree with most people here, Bisu.
PM me if you want random korean images translated.
JohannesH
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1364 Posts
August 09 2010 23:03 GMT
#74
Wtf is s class anyway
If you have to ask, you don't know.
Papvin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark610 Posts
August 09 2010 23:06 GMT
#75
On August 10 2010 02:19 dukethegold wrote:
It's criminally negligent to dismiss Rock's contributions to other people's careers.

Just wanted to highlight this brilliant and hillarious comment lol! New sig!
"It's criminally negligent to dismiss Rock's contributions to other people's careers", Dukethegold
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 23:46:55
August 09 2010 23:42 GMT
#76
People forget how good Luxury used to be. His ZvZ and ZvT were excellent, and even his ZvP was effective despite his lack of depth in that matchup. (4-1 vs Bisu, 4-6 vs Stork, 0-4 vs free, 3-4 vs Kal, 4-2 vs Jangbi, 3-4 vs Best, 18-21 vs "dragons", in OSL/MSL/PL games. Not great, but not terrible either.) He never had the magic touch or the charisma of Flash/JD/Bisu/Stork, and his reputation was already tarnished by his long slump before it was completely ruined in the match-fixing scandal --- but back when he was good, he was really good, and definitely not the joke that people seem to think he is now. He was head and shoulders better than every zerg besides Jaedong*.

His MSL was unusually easy, but it was merely an instance of the fifth-best player winning the title when the top four had dropped the ball. Jangbi and Luxury were arguably the best players at the time after TaekBangLeeSsang.

*I know that sounds funny, but Jaedong is a class of his own.
May the BeSt man win.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 00:00:59
August 09 2010 23:58 GMT
#77
Boxer from IS to Orion. (although this was him starting a new team, doesn't really count)
Nada from IS to KTF to Pantech.
Yellow from IS to KTF.
GoRush from GO to SKT.
Reach from Hanbitsoft to KTF.
Nal_rA from GO to KTF.
Pusan from Plus to MBC.
Bisu from MBC to SKT.
July from MBC to SKT to STX.
Luxury from OGN to KTF.
fOrGG from OZ to KTF.
Midas from SKT to WeMade.

So it actually happens quite often.
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 00:05:13
August 10 2010 00:02 GMT
#78
On August 10 2010 01:19 Nal_rAwr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 00:38 ilbh wrote:
bisu was traded from MBC to SKT1
forGG from OZ to KT
luxury from stars to KT
puma from eSTRO to sparkyz
suny from eSTRO to KT
kwanro from CJ to stars

that is all I can remember now

with the exception of bisu, the rest on the list are nowhere half as near to S-class
S-class is like top 10 dude


forGG and luxury weren't at their primes, but they were definitely top 10 at one point before the trades
jaedong forever~
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
August 10 2010 00:48 GMT
#79
On August 10 2010 06:47 TheNessman wrote:
Leta is ABOUT to be traded. People will see that he is S class once he is on a team that doesn't actually suck.

He is 60% plus is 3 of the 4 matchups. thats S class.

whoever achieves that 4th MU is the true S-class

/thread
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
August 10 2010 00:57 GMT
#80
On August 10 2010 07:15 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 06:47 TheNessman wrote:
Leta is ABOUT to be traded. People will see that he is S class once he is on a team that doesn't actually suck.

He is 60% plus is 3 of the 4 matchups. thats S class.


leta is garbage and always will be

pistols at dawn >: 3
brood war for life, brood war forever
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
SEL S2 Championship: Ro16
CranKy Ducklings73
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Ketroc 33
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 953
Shuttle 527
ggaemo 58
NaDa 23
Dota 2
monkeys_forever560
Counter-Strike
Foxcn361
semphis_18
Super Smash Bros
Westballz35
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor158
Other Games
tarik_tv27194
gofns14578
summit1g11141
fl0m626
C9.Mang0531
shahzam503
JimRising 493
ViBE204
Maynarde128
PiGStarcraft61
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1324
BasetradeTV65
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22531
League of Legends
• Doublelift6139
Counter-Strike
• imaqtpie1145
• Shiphtur223
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
9h 24m
Queen vs HyuN
EffOrt vs Calm
Wardi Open
10h 24m
RotterdaM Event
14h 24m
Replay Cast
23h 24m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 9h
Rush vs TBD
Jaedong vs Mong
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 10h
Cure vs Classic
ByuN vs TBD
herO vs TBD
TBD vs NightMare
TBD vs MaxPax
OSC
1d 11h
PiGosaur Monday
1d 23h
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
herO vs TBD
Royal vs Barracks
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
3 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
LiuLi Cup
4 days
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs herO
Cure vs Rogue
Classic vs HeRoMaRinE
Cosmonarchy
4 days
OyAji vs Sziky
Sziky vs WolFix
WolFix vs OyAji
BSL Team Wars
4 days
Team Hawk vs Team Dewalt
BSL Team Wars
4 days
Team Hawk vs Team Bonyth
SC Evo League
5 days
TaeJa vs Cure
Rogue vs threepoint
ByuN vs Creator
MaNa vs Classic
[BSL 2025] Weekly
5 days
SC Evo League
6 days
BSL Team Wars
6 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Sziky
BSL Team Wars
6 days
Team Dewalt vs Team Sziky
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSLAN 3
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
Acropolis #4 - TS1
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

CSL Season 18: Qualifier 2
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
EC S1
Sisters' Call Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.