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![[image loading]](http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4848/201008011280651022315.jpg) "See you at KwangAnRi!"
- Thoughts on advancing?
▲  Fantasy=I’m very happy that we’ll be able to go to the KwangAnRi finals we’ve been dreaming of. I believe victory will be ours there.
▲ Canata= KwangAnRi is the stage that all progamers dream of. I hope we can have a good competition.
▲  s2=I was very mad at myself after losing yesterday, so I’m very happy at today’s win. I also hope to have a good time at KwangAnRi.
- You won in both the 1st set and the ace match.
▲ Fantasy=After winning the first set, I had a feeling today would go well, but after seeing the losses in the sets 2 and 3, I felt a little uneasy. However, because I won my game, I was full of confidence for the ace match. The opponent’s harass put me in a bad position and there was a very dangerous moment, but I knew that as long as I had good vulture control I would be able to get past the danger.
- Today the coach emphasized your great performance.
▲ Canata= I had no idea that I could show such a performance in the postseason. This whole season I’ve been in a long slump. I even felt that maybe my career as a progamer would just come to a tragic end. I feel like I’m holding on to my last chance.
- You played against hero twice.
▲ s2= I’m very good friends with hero so I don’t like running into him, but I forgot about these things during the match and focused my concentration on the game. Today I was confident that even if I lost in the initial build order I would still be able to win. The key to my win today was the mutalisk micro I had been practicing.
- You’ve proven that SKT T1 is indeed a strong terran team.
▲ Fantasy= Even though in the postseason the terrans haven’t performed as well as the protoss, but being an SKT terran is really something to be proud of. Our terrans are the best at analyzing in-game situations. Our whole team is strong; as long as we have the opportunity we’ll show an explosive performance. Besides, Boxer and Oov contribute tremendously.
▲ Canata= Out of all 12 teams, our team definitely has the best protoss. Fantasy is also a top terran. Even though this match is still not enough to prove the strength of our terran line, at least it has shown that the SKT terrans are still alive.
- The SKT zergs seem to be in an unstable condition.
▲ s2=It’s only because our luck hasn’t been good. Our zerg coach is really great. Even though we don’t know how many zergs will be sent out during the finals, but I think as long as we get sent, we will win.
- The finals are a best of 1, so it’s advantageous for SKT.
▲ Fantasy=Last year, we won the first match but that didn’t decide the championship, so it felt a little weird. With this year’s new format, it’ll be much more exciting. Our team is very confident in a best of 7.
-Talk a little about KT.
▲ Fantasy= KT is definitely a strong team, but after going through all the rounds of the playoff, our team has more momentum. Additionally, we have more experience than KT, so I have confidence that we’ll beat them.
▲ Canata= The bigger the stage, the better our team performs against KT. I think this time will be no exception. In addition to our strong team spirit, we’ll win.
▲ s2=KT is indeed very strong, but I feel our momentum is already pressuring them. I want to say, we’ll win 4-0. But we’ll have to leave Fantasy to take care of Flash (laughs).
- You were in the lineup in the match against KT 5 years ago.
▲ Canata=At that time, I was the youngest on the team. Five years later, I’ll meet KT again, this time as the team captain. It’s quite a change. The lineups are almost completely different. Five years ago we won 4-1. I was the only one that lost. But even if the score does not come to 4-1 this year, I have confidence the victory will still be ours.
- Your hometown is Busan.
▲ Fantasy=Our home is very close to KwangAnRi. When I was little, I went with friends to watch the competition there. This time, going as one of the players is a huge honor, so I know that I’ll win at the gates of my home.
- At first, s2 told you to take care of Flash, what’s your response?
▲ Fantasy=Last year I beat Jaedong at KwangAnRi, so it’s not impossible for me to beat Flash this time. This time (I’ll) definitely take care of Flash to take the trophy.
- Any last words?
▲ Fantasy= I’m very thankful for all the hard work of the players, coaches, and workers behind the scenes this whole year. I hope that once again we’ll be able to become the champions at KwangAnRi and that everyone will cheer for us.
▲ Canata= I hope this year’s finals will be one where everyone can be happy. All the players and coaches will come together to bring the results that everyone hopes to see.
▲ s2= Everyone on the team has worked really hard this past year. Now there’s only one obstacle left. Hopefully we’ll be smiling until the very end—see you at KwangAnRi!
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Coach Interview:![[image loading]](http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/5302/201008011280649024556.jpg)
- Thoughts on advancing?
▲ Today was a hard fought match, so I’m very thankful to all the players. I also want to thank the ones who have been supporting us behind the scenes: the coaches and the all the B-team players.
- There’s one more opponent remaining: KT.
▲ KT was able to advance directly to KwangAnRi, to the stage bearing our team’s flag. I’m sure they have been preparing with all they’ve got. But our team has advanced to the big stage by battling through the playoffs, so we definitely have experienced more. We will definitely win.
- How was today’s match?
▲ Today, both  Bisu and BeSt lost their games, but they’ve learned a lot. During the game, if you lose focus for even one moment, you can lose it all. This will be very helpful for KwangAnRi, we’ll definitely win.
- You seem to have a lot of confidence that you’ll beat KT?
▲ I’m only speaking the truth. KT had a formidable showing during the regular season, so we won’t underestimate them. Just take my words as motivation for my players then.
- You’ve played a total of 7 matches in the postseason.
▲ Since the beginning of the playoffs, we have been preparing to face KT. In each match, we’ve not only been playing to win, we’ve kept KwangAnRi in mind, so it has been tough. But I believe that after this experience, our team will show an even better performance at the finals.
- What’s the biggest reason behind winning the semifinals?
▲ There are a lot, but I have to say it’s Canata’s excellent performance. Even though he kept losing during the regular season, but during the postseason, he really is the “Man of the Playoffs.” He has shown a perfect performance. He is the key that opened the door to the finals for our team.
- Compared to KT, where does SKT’s strength lie?
▲ We have more experience at KwangAnRi compared to KT. Our players were present at the finals last year, this is a very important point. I still remember when I participated in the finals as the team leader. It is, however, the first time that KT’s players will be participating in the finals, so I question whether they’ll be able to show all their strength. I’ll make sure KT’s nightmare of being the runner-ups will continue.
- Last words?
▲ After 5 years, once again SKT and KT face off at the finals in KwangAnRi, it makes me really happy. Five years ago, the finals were very exciting. This year we will once again show an exciting match. I hope everyone will come to the stadium to support us.
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SKT T1 Fighting! 
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Seems so anti climatic that the finals is a single Bo7. How bout they do a Bo9 all - kill format or sumthin =P
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Oh wow, will SKT really win the championship again? I love SKT, but this time I think I'll be rooting for KT! Still, glad SKT made it instead of STX, this should be a tremendous final 
Thanks for translating!
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On August 01 2010 19:07 amethyst wrote:
E.T. go home? 
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On August 01 2010 19:17 hitthat wrote:E.T. go home?
that would be so fitting if CJ was playing SKT in the finals
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I find it odd that Coach Park named Canata the man of the playoffs and not Best
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France2061 Posts
- What’s the biggest reason behind winning the semifinals?▲ There are a lot, but I have to say it’s Canata’s excellent performance. Even though he kept losing during the regular season, but during the postseason, he really is the “Man of the Playoffs.” He has shown a perfect performance. He is the key that opened the door to the finals for our team.
Wow, coach is definitely looking out for Canata with that kind of morale-boosting statement. Funny that I hate SKT but I really appreciate their coach. He has skill and poise.
<3 Coach Park. Come to STX, we got chicken.
Canata still sucks, though
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
I’ll make sure KT’s nightmare of being the runner-ups will continue.
SEE HOW EVIL SKT IS
FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUu
GTFO SKT1
KTF BETTER WIN THIS TIME
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- At first, s2 told you to take care of Flash, what’s your response?
▲ Fantasy=Last year I beat Jaedong at KwangAnRi, so it’s not impossible for me to beat Flash this time. This time (I’ll) definitely take care of Flash to take the trophy.
I understand why your name's Fantasy.
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On August 01 2010 19:53 ArvickHero wrote:
I find it odd that Coach Park named Canata the man of the playoffs and not Best
Canata needs that boost in confidence more than anyone else. He can potentially surpass the SKTZergs for a spot in their lineup, not to mention fill in when someone on SKT starts sucking. I wouldn't want to say WHY SEND CANATA and have him lose every time they decide to give him a chance. He still seemed a bit suicidal in the post-match interview.
That being said, Best and Bisu sure are being stars of playoffs. But Canata gave them some critical wins, which is not really expected of a fairly average terran compared to an amazing protoss duo.
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- At first, s2 told you to take care of Flash, what’s your response?
▲ Fantasy=Last year I beat Jaedong at KwangAnRi, so it’s not impossible for me to beat Flash this time. This time (I’ll) definitely take care of Flash to take the trophy.
A bitch like usual, you used boxer's build
if you do manage to beat flash this year, i hope flash/jaedong 3-0's you out of both OSL and MSL
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On August 01 2010 20:17 saltywet wrote:Show nested quote +- At first, s2 told you to take care of Flash, what’s your response?
▲ Fantasy=Last year I beat Jaedong at KwangAnRi, so it’s not impossible for me to beat Flash this time. This time (I’ll) definitely take care of Flash to take the trophy. A bitch like usual, you used boxer's build if you do manage to beat flash this year, i hope flash/jaedong 3-0's you out of both OSL and MSL
Come on now, he beat him with his own skill alone the first game they played.
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On August 01 2010 19:14 ShadeR wrote:
Seems so anti climatic that the finals is a single Bo7. How bout they do a Bo9 all - kill format or sumthin =P
Anticlimactic??! After months of Proleague??
This is the most climactic event of the year! A single Bo7 is incredibly intense.
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On August 01 2010 20:17 saltywet wrote:Show nested quote +- At first, s2 told you to take care of Flash, what’s your response?
▲ Fantasy=Last year I beat Jaedong at KwangAnRi, so it’s not impossible for me to beat Flash this time. This time (I’ll) definitely take care of Flash to take the trophy. A bitch like usual, you used boxer's build if you do manage to beat flash this year, i hope flash/jaedong 3-0's you out of both OSL and MSL
In first game he used a tank banking, it was the desperate move after unsuccesfull sunken break and not a boxer's plan for sure.
in game 2- yes, it was boxer's build. Give him some credit at last.
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On August 01 2010 20:17 saltywet wrote:Show nested quote +- At first, s2 told you to take care of Flash, what’s your response?
▲ Fantasy=Last year I beat Jaedong at KwangAnRi, so it’s not impossible for me to beat Flash this time. This time (I’ll) definitely take care of Flash to take the trophy. A bitch like usual, you used boxer's build if you do manage to beat flash this year, i hope flash/jaedong 3-0's you out of both OSL and MSL
Don't you remember the outsider game, where Jaedong should have won but he tried to show off and got rolled?
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Thanks for the translation
Was f5ing to see the interviews heheh
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jesus, people are getting really angry at fantasy, i for one am looking forward to the finals as fantasy leads the charge against kt, to be honest i don't care who wins the finals so long as i get to see a flash vs fantasy ace match.
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I want T1 to win the series, but Flash to win his games
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Besides, isn't Best a more obv choice for Ace?
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Thanks for the interview.
SKT T1 fighting!
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This time (I’ll) definitely take care of Flash to take the trophy.
Woah, I'm hyped for Flash Vs Fantasy should be great.
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Ahhhhhhhh, KT vs SKT, so hyped. ^_^
Too bad it's just gonna be one 4-0 domination by KT. 
I wanted at least 2 nights of domination.
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On August 02 2010 00:41 ghrur wrote:Ahhhhhhhh, KT vs SKT, so hyped. ^_^ Too bad it's just gonna be one 4-0 domination by KT. I wanted at least 2 nights of domination.
Yeah, I wanted more raping by KT too, but oh well! We'll have to live with what we have!
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Fantasy does stuff that no one else is capable of, I mean how many Valkyries did he have that one game, 7-8? Who cares if he consults with his coach, it's not like other players don't. He just has a better coach.
Time and time again, Fantasy has shown amazing skill and clutchness that only a handful of S class players possess. Stop hating.
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I have to say, I'm very happy that Canata won in the end:
▲ Canata=At that time, I was the youngest on the team. Five years later, I’ll meet KT again, this time as the team captain. It’s quite a change. The lineups are almost completely different. Five years ago we won 4-1. I was the only one that lost. But even if the score does not come to 4-1 this year, I have confidence the victory will still be ours.
Good luck, T1. I'll be sleeping during this match, but hey...
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a single bo7? wow i didnt think it would be defined so fast.... and Canata dont drop your game this time if you do may it be against flash, you losing to him is as useful as a snipe..
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As a SCBW fan, I'm really happy SKT got through. The finals will be EPIC.
But Fantasy, regarding Flash, seriously?? I can't believe he (& the rest of SKT) are still so happy over an all-in cheese build that Boxer prepared for him.
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On August 02 2010 01:19 HeadhunteR wrote:
a single bo7? wow i didnt think it would be defined so fast.... and Canata dont drop your game this time if you do may it be against flash, you losing to him is as useful as a snipe..
What you're suggesting is that if he is unlucky enough to play against Flash, that he has already won the battle, and that losing to him would still be a snipe.
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Im just going to throw it out there, these interviews are the means for mind games. If you want to stretch it further, Bisu has been throwing his PvT's in preparation for the finals, to fool the KT coach into preparing Flash for TvT's, when Bisu will prepare for a possible ace match in FS where Flash will be mind fucked into loosing.
It will be fun if it turns out this way.
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I see incoming final "hard as fuck" for our beloved SKT. To win this without fear they need less than 3 loses in final, and if they get equal, than someone will be forced to stop Flash in ace, wich is extremely hard.
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On August 02 2010 01:23 FirstProbe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2010 01:19 HeadhunteR wrote:
a single bo7? wow i didnt think it would be defined so fast.... and Canata dont drop your game this time if you do may it be against flash, you losing to him is as useful as a snipe.. What you're suggesting is that if he is unlucky enough to play against Flash, that he has already won the battle, and that losing to him would still be a snipe.
He is kind of right. Just give Flash his sacrificial lamb saving FBB for the other KT players so they can take it 3:1 and then hope that at least on SKT Zerg will win his game.
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On August 02 2010 02:40 hitthat wrote:
I see incoming final "hard as fuck" for our beloved SKT. To win this without fear they need less than 3 loses in final, and if they get equal, than someone will be forced to stop Flash in ace, wich is extremely hard.
I believe in Best !!
If he doesn't get destroyed early game he can put Flash into trouble.
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haha i predict a 4-0 for T1 with the FFB cheesing their way to 3 victories, then soO wins a ZvZ against Hoejja and everyone is like "FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUU" and more T1 hate ;P
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On August 01 2010 22:51 Cambium wrote:I want T1 to win the series, but Flash to win his game s
whoops I think those are mutually exclusive
flash 2-0 for kt 4-3 win!
I highly doubt all of FBB will win even if they don't play flash... forgg, violet, stats could take games off all of them, and even hoejja or 815 (!?) could beat best or (much less likely) the other two.
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hoping for another best vs zerg match in the finals
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YellOw... sing up with KT before the finals for epic BoxeR v YellOw proleague finals ace match!!!
can't wait for the write up on this.... should be epic...
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On August 02 2010 02:39 night terrors wrote:Im Just going to throw it out there, these interviews are the means for games. If you want to stretch it further, Bisu has been throwing his PvT's in preparation for the finals, to fool the KT coach preparing Flash for TvT's, when Bisu will prepare for a possible ACE match in FS Where Flash will be fucked loosing. It will be fun if it turns out this way.
why would SKT do that when they have best?
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What STX really needed to win:
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On August 01 2010 22:38 Radio.active wrote:
jesus, people are getting really angry at fantasy, i for one am looking forward to the finals as fantasy leads the charge against kt, to be honest i don't care who wins the finals so long as i get to see a flash vs fantasy ace match.
Haters will hate and trollers will troll.
Being "hated" by someone in the realm of sports is the ultimate compliment. It means you have achieved something. You don't see people hating the Kansas City Royals or the Memphis Grizzlies, or the Detroit Lions... (outside of normal rivalaries of course) You see people hate on the Yankees, the Lakers, and the Patriots.
When people are jealous of success, they have only one means of an attack.
Seriously, did anyone else think Tim Tebow got way more criticism than anyone else in this past football draft?
SKT1 has done something and is constantly winning and always in the running for a championship. That's why they draw a lot of hate on their players.
Oh yeah, and Fantasy pwnd that Jaedong in PL last year.
"Cheese" builds are defined poorly. 2 rax opening is hardly all-in cheese. Just like 2 hatch Muta isn't a an all-in cheese.
What's all-in cheese? 4 pool, 5 rax, 2 gate proxy. Those... are all-in cheeses.
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On August 02 2010 06:44 catabowl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2010 22:38 Radio.active wrote:
jesus, people are getting really angry at fantasy, i for one am looking forward to the finals as fantasy leads the charge against kt, to be honest i don't care who wins the finals so long as i get to see a flash vs fantasy ace match. Haters will hate and trollers will troll. Being "hated" by someone in the realm of sports is the ultimate compliment. It means you have achieved something. You don't see people hating the Kansas City Royals or the Memphis Grizzlies, or the Detroit Lions... (outside of normal rivalaries of course) You see people hate on the Yankees, the Lakers, and the Patriots. When people are jealous of success, they have only one means of an attack. Seriously, did anyone else think Tim Tebow got way more criticism than anyone else in this past football draft? SKT1 has done something and is constantly winning and always in the running for a championship. That's why they draw a lot of hate on their players. Oh yeah, and Fantasy pwnd that Jaedong in PL last year. "Cheese" builds are defined poorly. 2 rax opening is hardly all-in cheese. Just like 2 hatch Muta isn't a an all-in cheese. What's all-in cheese? 4 pool, 5 rax, 2 gate proxy. Those... are all-in cheeses.
people hate fantasy because he's just iloveoov's puppet. We know iloveoov is the mind behind fantasy's builds. Without his builds, he's just another macro robot.
And I wouldn't give T1 a whole lot of credit for winning proleague's last season. They purchased Bisu and MBC's coach from their former teams, making them what they are now. It's hard to imagine Best and Fantasy muscling their way through PL without MBC's brilliant coach and Bisu.
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On August 01 2010 20:03 Lightwip wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2010 19:53 ArvickHero wrote:
I find it odd that Coach Park named Canata the man of the playoffs and not Best Canata needs that boost in confidence more than anyone else. He can potentially surpass the SKTZergs for a spot in their lineup, not to mention fill in when someone on SKT starts sucking. I wouldn't want to say WHY SEND CANATA and have him lose every time they decide to give him a chance. He still seemed a bit suicidal in the post-match interview. That being said, Best and Bisu sure are being stars of playoffs. But Canata gave them some critical wins, which is not really expected of a fairly average terran compared to an amazing protoss duo.
Well said. For me it's clearly Coach Park trying to give Canata a bit of a boost. Having said that, Canata has come in and won some key games over the playoffs when he wasn't necessarily expected to.
I think FBB have performed as you'd expect given their ability, but I've personally been impressed with the ability of Fanta and Bisu to mentally purge losses in a round and then go on and win the Ace match.
Right now I would always opt for Canata ahead of Hyuk. I just don't think Hyuk has done enough (recently) to warrant playing.
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On August 02 2010 06:54 newvsoldschool wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2010 06:44 catabowl wrote:On August 01 2010 22:38 Radio.active wrote:
jesus, people are getting really angry at fantasy, i for one am looking forward to the finals as fantasy leads the charge against kt, to be honest i don't care who wins the finals so long as i get to see a flash vs fantasy ace match. Haters will hate and trollers will troll. Being "hated" by someone in the realm of sports is the ultimate compliment. It means you have achieved something. You don't see people hating the Kansas City Royals or the Memphis Grizzlies, or the Detroit Lions... (outside of normal rivalaries of course) You see people hate on the Yankees, the Lakers, and the Patriots. When people are jealous of success, they have only one means of an attack. Seriously, did anyone else think Tim Tebow got way more criticism than anyone else in this past football draft? SKT1 has done something and is constantly winning and always in the running for a championship. That's why they draw a lot of hate on their players. Oh yeah, and Fantasy pwnd that Jaedong in PL last year. "Cheese" builds are defined poorly. 2 rax opening is hardly all-in cheese. Just like 2 hatch Muta isn't a an all-in cheese. What's all-in cheese? 4 pool, 5 rax, 2 gate proxy. Those... are all-in cheeses. people hate fantasy because he's just iloveoov's puppet. We know iloveoov is the mind behind fantasy's builds. Without his builds, he's just another macro robot. And I wouldn't give T1 a whole lot of credit for winning proleague's last season. They purchased Bisu and MBC's coach from their former teams, making them what they are now. It's hard to imagine Best and Fantasy muscling their way through PL without MBC's brilliant coach and Bisu.
You should quit playing terran since you are such a hater of one of the best to ever play the game. Flash and Fantasy are the best terrans, talent and skillwise, this game has ever seen. All the great builds in the world don't mean jack if you don't have the skills to execute them.
And its obvious Fantasy is not Oov or boxer's puppet, because I have seen him do things they simply couldn't ever do. He has won tons of seemingly lost games by having to come up with his own answer to the situation his enemy presents to him. Someone who wins with preperation and builds only doesn't win lost games, they lose won games.
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On August 02 2010 06:54 newvsoldschool wrote:
people hate fantasy because he's just iloveoov's puppet. We know iloveoov is the mind behind fantasy's builds. Without his builds, he's just another macro robot.
If Fantasy were just "iloveoov's puppet", then Mong would be the next bonjwa, and Canata would be winning starleagues already. He's not the only Terran that gets oov/boxer's guidance--something sets him apart from everyone else.
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On August 02 2010 08:02 RivetHead wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2010 06:54 newvsoldschool wrote:On August 02 2010 06:44 catabowl wrote:On August 01 2010 22:38 Radio.active wrote:
jesus, people are getting really angry at fantasy, i for one am looking forward to the finals as fantasy leads the charge against kt, to be honest i don't care who wins the finals so long as i get to see a flash vs fantasy ace match. Haters will hate and trollers will troll. Being "hated" by someone in the realm of sports is the ultimate compliment. It means you have achieved something. You don't see people hating the Kansas City Royals or the Memphis Grizzlies, or the Detroit Lions... (outside of normal rivalaries of course) You see people hate on the Yankees, the Lakers, and the Patriots. When people are jealous of success, they have only one means of an attack. Seriously, did anyone else think Tim Tebow got way more criticism than anyone else in this past football draft? SKT1 has done something and is constantly winning and always in the running for a championship. That's why they draw a lot of hate on their players. Oh yeah, and Fantasy pwnd that Jaedong in PL last year. "Cheese" builds are defined poorly. 2 rax opening is hardly all-in cheese. Just like 2 hatch Muta isn't a an all-in cheese. What's all-in cheese? 4 pool, 5 rax, 2 gate proxy. Those... are all-in cheeses. people hate fantasy because he's just iloveoov's puppet. We know iloveoov is the mind behind fantasy's builds. Without his builds, he's just another macro robot. And I wouldn't give T1 a whole lot of credit for winning proleague's last season. They purchased Bisu and MBC's coach from their former teams, making them what they are now. It's hard to imagine Best and Fantasy muscling their way through PL without MBC's brilliant coach and Bisu. You should quit playing terran since you are such a hater of one of the best to ever play the game. Flash and Fantasy are the best terrans, talent and skillwise, this game has ever seen. All the great builds in the world don't mean jack if you don't have the skills to execute them. And its obvious Fantasy is not Oov or boxer's puppet, because I have seen him do things they simply couldn't ever do. He has won tons of seemingly lost games by having to come up with his own answer to the situation his enemy presents to him. Someone who wins with preperation and builds only doesn't win lost games, they lose won games.
qft
if fantasy was just a mindless macro-bot with builds from oov and boxer, why arent all SKT1 terrans as good as him?
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On August 02 2010 06:54 newvsoldschool wrote:
people hate fantasy because he's just iloveoov's puppet.
Oh please. If someone making builds for you makes you their puppet, then is Jaedong the puppet of neeL, who makes a lot of his builds? Or Nada the puppet of SoulKey? Or Bisu of Daezang+Nal_ra? No. Some people can make brilliant builds without having any ability to carry them out. That's why someone more mechanically capable does it for them.
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On August 02 2010 09:00 Lightwip wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2010 06:54 newvsoldschool wrote:
people hate fantasy because he's just iloveoov's puppet. Oh please. If someone making builds for you makes you their puppet, then is Jaedong the puppet of neeL, who makes a lot of his builds? Or Nada the puppet of SoulKey? Or Bisu of Daezang+Nal_ra? No. Some people can make brilliant builds without having any ability to carry them out. That's why someone more mechanically capable does it for them.
Pretty sure that Iloveoov can still mechanically capable of doing those builds.
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if it comes to ace, there is gonna be some epic mind games
best has awesome pvt decent pvp
fantasy has good tvp and decent tvt
bisu has good pvp and pvz
so kt pretty much cant send a protoss cuz all of skt aces are good vp
they dont have a decent zerg
so flash is probably gonna be ace
have to see what skt decides to do
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Kentor
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canata slumping for the whole season and then winning both 6th sets to give skt a chance at ace was awesome
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On August 02 2010 09:24 vishrut wrote:
if it comes to ace, there is gonna be some epic mind games
best has awesome pvt decent pvp
fantasy has good tvp and decent tvt
bisu has good pvp and pvz
so kt pretty much cant send a protoss cuz all of skt aces are good vp
they dont have a decent zerg
so flash is probably gonna be ace
have to see what skt decides to do
lol, there is no way KT would've risked sending anybody other than Flash ace in some dumb snipe attempt
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On August 02 2010 09:52 Kyuukyuu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2010 09:24 vishrut wrote:
if it comes to ace, there is gonna be some epic mind games
best has awesome pvt decent pvp
fantasy has good tvp and decent tvt
bisu has good pvp and pvz
so kt pretty much cant send a protoss cuz all of skt aces are good vp
they dont have a decent zerg
so flash is probably gonna be ace
have to see what skt decides to do
lol, there is no way KT would've risked sending anybody other than Flash ace in some dumb snipe attempt
That's actually a huge advantage that SKT has over KT. SKT knows they will face Flash in the ace match while Flash will have to prepare against Fantasy (most likely choice for the ace) but also Best and Bisu.
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I'm surprised there is no mention that Lee Yong Ho and Jeong Meong Hoon are best friends going back to their time in By. That would be a great backstory to their journey to this point in their respective progaming careers.
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On August 02 2010 08 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 02 2010 08 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:39 Ideas wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2010 08:02 RivetHead wrote:On August 02 2010 06:54 newvsoldschool wrote:On August 02 2010 06:44 catabowl wrote:On August 01 2010 22:38 Radio.active wrote:
jesus, people are getting really angry at fantasy, i for one am looking forward to the finals as fantasy leads the charge against kt, to be honest i don't care who wins the finals so long as i get to see a flash vs fantasy ace match. Haters will hate and trollers will troll. Being "hated" by someone in the realm of sports is the ultimate compliment. It means you have achieved something. You don't see people hating the Kansas City Royals or the Memphis Grizzlies, or the Detroit Lions... (outside of normal rivalaries of course) You see people hate on the Yankees, the Lakers, and the Patriots. When people are jealous of success, they have only one means of an attack. Seriously, did anyone else think Tim Tebow got way more criticism than anyone else in this past football draft? SKT1 has done something and is constantly winning and always in the running for a championship. That's why they draw a lot of hate on their players. Oh yeah, and Fantasy pwnd that Jaedong in PL last year. "Cheese" builds are defined poorly. 2 rax opening is hardly all-in cheese. Just like 2 hatch Muta isn't a an all-in cheese. What's all-in cheese? 4 pool, 5 rax, 2 gate proxy. Those... are all-in cheeses. people hate fantasy because he's just iloveoov's puppet. We know iloveoov is the mind behind fantasy's builds. Without his builds, he's just another macro robot. And I wouldn't give T1 a whole lot of credit for winning proleague's last season. They purchased Bisu and MBC's coach from their former teams, making them what they are now. It's hard to imagine Best and Fantasy muscling their way through PL without MBC's brilliant coach and Bisu. You should quit playing terran since you are such a hater of one of the best to ever play the game. Flash and Fantasy are the best terrans, talent and skillwise, this game has ever seen. All the great builds in the world don't mean jack if you don't have the skills to execute them. And its obvious Fantasy is not Oov or boxer's puppet, because I have seen him do things they simply couldn't ever do. He has won tons of seemingly lost games by having to come up with his own answer to the situation his enemy presents to him. Someone who wins with preperation and builds only doesn't win lost games, they lose won games. qft if fantasy was just a mindless macro-bot with builds from oov and boxer, why arent all SKT1 terrans as good as him?
And why don't they all play with the same style?
Fantasy is the prodigy of Oov, but that does not mean he does not himself contribute to the development and direction of the strategies that he employs on a daily basis. His vulture play is entirely his, for instance - neither of the bonjwas had that kind of play style - and surely at least some of the (many) recent refinements and innovations to mech play were of his own hand.
Either way, Fantasy is one of the best players in the world right now. He has earned his praise, and animosity, and for that he can be proud.
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On the top of my head, I can immediately think of two things that Fantasy created by himself and made an impact in the scene with.
1. MnM into banking tank into rolling hive tech Zerg. He was the first amongst the modern terrans to do it and many Terrans, especially Flash followed suit.
2. Early bio into mid game mech, mixture of both bio and mech units. He stated in an interview that this build was his own. He was the first to do it and Flash probably profited more from it than Fantasy did.
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If it comes to ace, it will be either Fantasy or Best. Best is awesome PvT and has a good chance to beat Flash, and he won every game that wasn't in Flash's prime(a few were due to reaver fails rather than macro). And there's Fantasy, who is pretty damn good at winning ace matches. Both have a good chance of beating Flash, especially considering his attention should be divided.
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On August 02 2010 08:02 RivetHead wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2010 06:54 newvsoldschool wrote:On August 02 2010 06:44 catabowl wrote:On August 01 2010 22:38 Radio.active wrote:
jesus, people are getting really angry at fantasy, i for one am looking forward to the finals as fantasy leads the charge against kt, to be honest i don't care who wins the finals so long as i get to see a flash vs fantasy ace match. Haters will hate and trollers will troll. Being "hated" by someone in the realm of sports is the ultimate compliment. It means you have achieved something. You don't see people hating the Kansas City Royals or the Memphis Grizzlies, or the Detroit Lions... (outside of normal rivalaries of course) You see people hate on the Yankees, the Lakers, and the Patriots. When people are jealous of success, they have only one means of an attack. Seriously, did anyone else think Tim Tebow got way more criticism than anyone else in this past football draft? SKT1 has done something and is constantly winning and always in the running for a championship. That's why they draw a lot of hate on their players. Oh yeah, and Fantasy pwnd that Jaedong in PL last year. "Cheese" builds are defined poorly. 2 rax opening is hardly all-in cheese. Just like 2 hatch Muta isn't a an all-in cheese. What's all-in cheese? 4 pool, 5 rax, 2 gate proxy. Those... are all-in cheeses. people hate fantasy because he's just iloveoov's puppet. We know iloveoov is the mind behind fantasy's builds. Without his builds, he's just another macro robot. And I wouldn't give T1 a whole lot of credit for winning proleague's last season. They purchased Bisu and MBC's coach from their former teams, making them what they are now. It's hard to imagine Best and Fantasy muscling their way through PL without MBC's brilliant coach and Bisu. You should quit playing terran since you are such a hater of one of the best to ever play the game. Flash and Fantasy are the best terrans, talent and skillwise, this game has ever seen. All the great builds in the world don't mean jack if you don't have the skills to execute them. And its obvious Fantasy is not Oov or boxer's puppet, because I have seen him do things they simply couldn't ever do. He has won tons of seemingly lost games by having to come up with his own answer to the situation his enemy presents to him. Someone who wins with preperation and builds only doesn't win lost games, they lose won games.
fantasy is a shit and overrated player who wins only with preparation and builds. if you present to him an unusual situation, he loses, just like he did vs jaedong 4pool and killer on outsider, and nearly lost to a 4pool from action
when he wins seemingly lost games it's only because those people make retarded mistakes like kal did yesterday
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On August 02 2010 09:52 Kyuukyuu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2010 09:24 vishrut wrote:
if it comes to ace, there is gonna be some epic mind games
best has awesome pvt decent pvp
fantasy has good tvp and decent tvt
bisu has good pvp and pvz
so kt pretty much cant send a protoss cuz all of skt aces are good vp
they dont have a decent zerg
so flash is probably gonna be ace
have to see what skt decides to do
lol, there is no way KT would've risked sending anybody other than Flash ace in some dumb snipe attempt
Indeed Flash has the advantage over anyone on the scene right now
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On August 01 2010 19:58 alypse wrote:Show nested quote +- At first, s2 told you to take care of Flash, what’s your response?
▲ Fantasy=Last year I beat Jaedong at KwangAnRi, so it’s not impossible for me to beat Flash this time. This time (I’ll) definitely take care of Flash to take the trophy. I understand why your name's Fantasy.
Well, Fantasy can certainly play excellent TvT. And Flash in a slump, so It is a realistic fantasy.
Don't forget, Fantasy is ranked #3.
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On August 02 2010 11:37 Lightningbullet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2010 19:58 alypse wrote:- At first, s2 told you to take care of Flash, what’s your response?
▲ Fantasy=Last year I beat Jaedong at KwangAnRi, so it’s not impossible for me to beat Flash this time. This time (I’ll) definitely take care of Flash to take the trophy. I understand why your name's Fantasy. Well, Fantasy can certainly play excellent TvT. And Flash in a slump, so It is a realistic fantasy. Don't forget, Fantasy is ranked #3.
No one truly knows in what form is Flash. But judging from his most recent form his form is pretty good. The question is, did his TvT fully recovered or not. He will need it in all three leagues.
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On August 02 2010 10:56 saltywet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2010 08:02 RivetHead wrote:On August 02 2010 06:54 newvsoldschool wrote:On August 02 2010 06:44 catabowl wrote:On August 01 2010 22:38 Radio.active wrote:
jesus, people are getting really angry at fantasy, i for one am looking forward to the finals as fantasy leads the charge against kt, to be honest i don't care who wins the finals so long as i get to see a flash vs fantasy ace match. Haters will hate and trollers will troll. Being "hated" by someone in the realm of sports is the ultimate compliment. It means you have achieved something. You don't see people hating the Kansas City Royals or the Memphis Grizzlies, or the Detroit Lions... (outside of normal rivalaries of course) You see people hate on the Yankees, the Lakers, and the Patriots. When people are jealous of success, they have only one means of an attack. Seriously, did anyone else think Tim Tebow got way more criticism than anyone else in this past football draft? SKT1 has done something and is constantly winning and always in the running for a championship. That's why they draw a lot of hate on their players. Oh yeah, and Fantasy pwnd that Jaedong in PL last year. "Cheese" builds are defined poorly. 2 rax opening is hardly all-in cheese. Just like 2 hatch Muta isn't a an all-in cheese. What's all-in cheese? 4 pool, 5 rax, 2 gate proxy. Those... are all-in cheeses. people hate fantasy because he's just iloveoov's puppet. We know iloveoov is the mind behind fantasy's builds. Without his builds, he's just another macro robot. And I wouldn't give T1 a whole lot of credit for winning proleague's last season. They purchased Bisu and MBC's coach from their former teams, making them what they are now. It's hard to imagine Best and Fantasy muscling their way through PL without MBC's brilliant coach and Bisu. You should quit playing terran since you are such a hater of one of the best to ever play the game. Flash and Fantasy are the best terrans, talent and skillwise, this game has ever seen. All the great builds in the world don't mean jack if you don't have the skills to execute them. And its obvious Fantasy is not Oov or boxer's puppet, because I have seen him do things they simply couldn't ever do. He has won tons of seemingly lost games by having to come up with his own answer to the situation his enemy presents to him. Someone who wins with preperation and builds only doesn't win lost games, they lose won games. fantasy is a shit and overrated player who wins only with preparation and builds. if you present to him an unusual situation, he loses, just like he did vs jaedong 4pool and killer on outsider, and nearly lost to a 4pool from action when he wins seemingly lost games it's only because those people make retarded mistakes like kal did yesterday
Then how do you explain his phenomenal performance in the Winner League? O_o
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Thanks for the translation, looking forward to the Final!
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the least disputable thing about skt is the coach. he does a good job and is cool and i respect him. but i still don't know why he keeps sending zergs....
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On August 02 2010 15:20 TheNessman wrote:
the least disputable thing about skt is the coach. he does a good job and is cool and i respect him. but i still don't know why he keeps sending zergs....
Because Mong<Zergs and Boxer sucks nowadays. Who else?
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On August 02 2010 10:56 saltywet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2010 08:02 RivetHead wrote:On August 02 2010 06:54 newvsoldschool wrote:On August 02 2010 06:44 catabowl wrote:On August 01 2010 22:38 Radio.active wrote:
jesus, people are getting really angry at fantasy, i for one am looking forward to the finals as fantasy leads the charge against kt, to be honest i don't care who wins the finals so long as i get to see a flash vs fantasy ace match. Haters will hate and trollers will troll. Being "hated" by someone in the realm of sports is the ultimate compliment. It means you have achieved something. You don't see people hating the Kansas City Royals or the Memphis Grizzlies, or the Detroit Lions... (outside of normal rivalaries of course) You see people hate on the Yankees, the Lakers, and the Patriots. When people are jealous of success, they have only one means of an attack. Seriously, did anyone else think Tim Tebow got way more criticism than anyone else in this past football draft? SKT1 has done something and is constantly winning and always in the running for a championship. That's why they draw a lot of hate on their players. Oh yeah, and Fantasy pwnd that Jaedong in PL last year. "Cheese" builds are defined poorly. 2 rax opening is hardly all-in cheese. Just like 2 hatch Muta isn't a an all-in cheese. What's all-in cheese? 4 pool, 5 rax, 2 gate proxy. Those... are all-in cheeses. people hate fantasy because he's just iloveoov's puppet. We know iloveoov is the mind behind fantasy's builds. Without his builds, he's just another macro robot. And I wouldn't give T1 a whole lot of credit for winning proleague's last season. They purchased Bisu and MBC's coach from their former teams, making them what they are now. It's hard to imagine Best and Fantasy muscling their way through PL without MBC's brilliant coach and Bisu. You should quit playing terran since you are such a hater of one of the best to ever play the game. Flash and Fantasy are the best terrans, talent and skillwise, this game has ever seen. All the great builds in the world don't mean jack if you don't have the skills to execute them. And its obvious Fantasy is not Oov or boxer's puppet, because I have seen him do things they simply couldn't ever do. He has won tons of seemingly lost games by having to come up with his own answer to the situation his enemy presents to him. Someone who wins with preperation and builds only doesn't win lost games, they lose won games. fantasy is a shit and overrated player who wins only with preparation and builds. if you present to him an unusual situation, he loses, just like he did vs jaedong 4pool and killer on outsider, and nearly lost to a 4pool from action when he wins seemingly lost games it's only because those people make retarded mistakes like kal did yesterday
I don't know how you can say Fantasy is only build and preparation when clearly he has great micro, macro, multitasking, game sense, etc.
And I don't like when people use the generic word "build" as if everything a progamer does in his build order is according to some predetermined plan.
Its pretty safe to say that at times you would have to modify or completely change the build order in response to what the enemy is doing or else you will end up losing more often than not. But responding correctly to any situation that may happen, and balancing defense, offense, economy,etc. is easier said than done.
At a certain point, the game is fluid and the gamer has to rely on his own skills.
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On August 02 2010 08:02 RivetHead wrote:
You should quit playing terran since you are such a hater of one of the best to ever play the game. Flash and Fantasy are the best terrans, talent and skillwise, this game has ever seen. All the great builds in the world don't mean jack if you don't have the skills to execute them.
And its obvious Fantasy is not Oov or boxer's puppet, because I have seen him do things they simply couldn't ever do. He has won tons of seemingly lost games by having to come up with his own answer to the situation his enemy presents to him. Someone who wins with preperation and builds only doesn't win lost games, they lose won games.
So, so true.
100% agreed.
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On August 02 2010 10:56 saltywet wrote:
fantasy is a shit and overrated player who wins only with preparation and builds. if you present to him an unusual situation, he loses, just like he did vs jaedong 4pool and killer on outsider, and nearly lost to a 4pool from action
Are you really arguing the player who's been the second best performer Terran in the world for such a long time is a "shit and overrated" player? This is just ridiculous.
Fantasy is a fantastic player. His TvPs are absolutely brilliant (while amazingly fun to watch) most of the time, his TvT is excellent and he's bringing fresh new TvZ builds like all the time, regularly beating top-5 Zergs with them (granted, Oov and Boxer do help, but he's the one taking the risk to execute them at the highest level possible--that does require tons of skills).
Plus he looks/sounds like a really nice guy!
How can you even dislike such a player is completely beyond me.
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interestingly, forgg is 5-0 vs bisu
stats can take out anyone easily except perhaps fantasy
tempest is pretty underrated and should fare well against anyone except zerg
but yeah, i have a feeling we'll see KTFlash again because KT wont be lucky enough to get snipes on FBB
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On August 02 2010 18:38 saltywet wrote:interestingly, forgg is 5-0 vs bisu stats can take out anyone easily except perhaps fantasy tempest is pretty underrated and should fare well against anyone except zerg but yeah, i have a feeling we'll see KTFlash again because KT wont be lucky enough to get snipes on FBB
Bisu better not disappoint then .. lol
this is his chance to redeem himself
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lol... it's been 5 years since their last finals meeting? Damn... that's half of pro bw history ~_~.
Fantasy haters are the easiest noob radar ques imo. I just start ignoring opinions who dislike Fantasy cuz... well.. how can you take skillless noobs srsly right? srsly!
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Fantasy bringing the goods, s2 gets his revenge and Canata is clutch yet again. SKT1 is in good shape, but they'll meet their hardest challenge yet. KT Rolster can ordinarily go toe to toe with SKT1, but now with the first having been rested and the second having been tired out, I think that KT has the advantage.
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Haha who else thinks Canata is being a little tinkerbell fairy gay guy in that picture where they're pointing? SKT Fighting!
Thanks for the translation and interview
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On August 02 2010 10:56 saltywet wrote:
fantasy is a shit and overrated player who wins only with preparation and builds. if you present to him an unusual situation, he loses, just like he did vs jaedong 4pool and killer on outsider, and nearly lost to a 4pool from action
when he wins seemingly lost games it's only because those people make retarded mistakes like kal did yesterday
I'm just currious how you haters will explain fantasy's tank transition against Jeadong in SPL final. It couldnt be build made by anyone than him, as his first timing attack failed, so that was not orriginal plan. Yet, this late game tank transition totally turned the card in TvZ late game, and it was invented by HIM, not BOXER, not OOV, not even FLASH (however he made it popular after his play against Calm).
Your "stupid mistakes" are in more than 60% in TvT and TvP and in many TvZ games. He got with your "flukes", "gimmicks", "stupid opponent mistakes" into 2 OSL finals (lost both after a close 3-2 series) and 1 semifinal, plays regulary in OSL ro16, WAS A CORE AND PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT SKT PLAYER IN THIS SPL SEASON (bisu and Best play was for long horrible), get to the MSL ro8 and was a hero in last SPL final.
And what is your argument about him being shit player? 4-pool of so-beloved-I-dont-even-know-why Action, that he won? Action haven't beaten him in tv games yet. Even once.
And if you ask me, HITE's best player, Leta, while exelent to watch and a bit underrated player, is more 'gimmicky' than Fantasy
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Fantasy cannot be Boxer and Oov's lapdog, for whatever reason he has so much trouble with TvZ early game. Considering Oov and Boxer were excellent at those matchups it's hard to justify considering him like that. Besides Fantasy has better TvP sense than both of them ever had, even if Oov's TvP was competent.
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Man, I was about to quote this line: "I’ll make sure KT’s nightmare of being the runner-ups will continue" as some badass trash-talking but apparently it's one of the examples of the pitfalls of multiple translations.
And I can't but shake my head at the Fantasy hate from some posters in this thread. How blinded by emotion can you guys be when you can't even realize that basic evidence refutes the arguments you're trying to put forward?
One interesting thing for the SKT bench-warmers this playoffs is that two of the benchwarmers from last year's playoffs, s2 and soo have risen up to become players. So a sign of opportunity for them.
It's also terribly anticlimactic if it's always the team seeded into the finals that wins. Of course I'm a bit biased, but it'd cap a truly nice playoff run for the team that climbed up from the BOTTOM of playoff rounds to take the complete championships.
I still think it's kind of weird that the finals is only one day when the previous rounds are two or three, but whatever. No second chances.
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Soo hasn't done anything besides lose.
KT does have some good players. I think many are counting out ForGG, Violet, and Stats. Those are legitimately good players. Beyond that though, KT is pretty trash.
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On August 03 2010 11:48 Roffles wrote:
Soo hasn't done anything besides lose.
KT does have some good players. I think many are counting out ForGG, Violet, and Stats. Those are legitimately good players. Beyond that though, KT is pretty trash.
Fun fact. If Soo didn't win that game against Light, Light would have had a 21 winning streak against Zerg.
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Didn't know they changed it to Bo1.
Well, that just makes it that much more interesting then.
SKT1~!!
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On August 02 2010 23:27 TanGeng wrote:We're all going to the beach!!!! YEAAAAAAAAAH!!!
LOL I like this pic.
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So what happen to Hyuk? He said STX was so easy, yet he lost and wasn't allowed to play day 2
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On August 04 2010 09:50 [X]Ken_D wrote:So what happen to Hyuk? He said STX was so easy, yet he lost and wasn't allowed to play day 2
He didn't say that, that was a fail KR->CN->EN translation. He said they were beatable.
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