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Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
July 16 2010 23:52 GMT
#1
Yet another summary thread!

- Last episode of "Return of the After Talk". There will be a special next week apparently.
- Very rough summary/gist translation since I'm writing this while I watch so things may not make sense.
- They also talked about the OSL but I didn't think it was that important.



Post Season - STX, Match Fixing

- Kim Carrier thinks STX will have the most difficulties. His reasoning is that if you look at other teams, there's always a player that you can always count onto perform. STX does not have such a player. He does not believe STX will find that player in the two weeks.

- Uhm mentions when they were talking about Samsung, about how there's a player who is the spiritual center of a team, like Frozen in Samsung. When Frozen left, Samsung was very shaken. Uhm believes Hwasin played that role in STX.

- Kim Carrier mentions how teams with players involved in match fixing was shaken by this, about how CJ barely made it to the playoffs, how Sparkyz has been completely destroyed.

- Uhm: If STX does not overcome this, they're not going to have a chance.

- Kim Carrier: Why is KT so good? Because there are a lot of players that you can count on other than that player. Like Flash.



Post Season - Who will make it to the finals to meet KT?

- Uhm: SKT has the highest chances, from the players... etc
- Kim Carrier: CJ over SKT on about 6:4. CJ has a good chance. MBC has little chance. For WeMade, Baby is very shaky lately.

- Uhm: The reason why WeMade will be shaky is because Baby lost his rainbow socks.
- Kindom: Really? The reason is because he lost his socks?
- Uhm: Really.
- Kim Carrier: In the aftershock of that, he was knocked out of Starleague with two losses
- Uhm: It's true! I asked him "Can't you buy the same rainbow socks" and he answered "That pair is a bit special".

- Kingdom: I think SKT
- Kim Carrier: CJ for me.



The reason you picked your teams?

- Uhm: Rather than Team Colors, I think what matters is how deep the players are. SKT has a lot of experience on the big stage, and has really gutsy players. The Coach is pretty good, but he needs the room to play out his strategies. This is why SKT has the advantage.

- Kingdom: Strategic plays are most important in the post season and SKT has coaches by race. CJ has two coaches and a manager, so they have 3 on the staff. Also, Effort, Snow, and Skyhigh are very good against Terran. But for SK... SK has very weak Terran players after Fantasy. It's unlikely SK will use more than one Terran players, and if they only use one, then CJ's strong points will backfire against them and SK's strong points will be highlighted

- Uhm: I think CJ's strong point is that they don't have a special weakness in their races. But for SK, their Zerg lineups suddenly revived and became a really scary team because of that.

- Kim Carrier: I don't know why I chose CJ now. I think it was just to go against Uhm when he chose SK.

- Kim Carrier: If you look at just the Terran and Protoss cards, SKT is definitely ahead.
CJ is better off in the mirror matches.
- CJ does not have a special weakness
- If you look at the S rank players, SKT definitely has more. But CJ has more A rank players.

- Uhm brings out how KT lost in 2005 at the finals, because they were so confident, they got sniped by SK. About how KT does have a scary force, Flash is losing quite often lately, but KT is still strong.

-Kingdom: KT has always been good in regular season, but weak in the post season. But they won Winners league this year. Half of the Jinx is broken. WIll manager Lee be able to end the jinx, or will Yellow's curse reign supreme?

-KC: The biggest reason why KT did well was because of Flash. But Flash isn't doing so well right now, and has built a losing streak in important Ace Matches. If you look at that...

- Kingdom: I think KT will win. 1) Because this Worldcup, the two teams that played in the finals never won a world cup, and 2) I think KT will continue their momentum from winner's league.

- KC: I think CJ or SK, one of those two teams will win.

- Uhm: I bet KT players are watching this and going "YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS KIM CARRIER'S CURSE"
- KC: "YESSSSS?" more like "OLLEH!"

- Kingdom: When Flash comes to play on Proleague recently, he looked really stressed. He used to be so happy, but now he's really worrying about this. I think Flash may explode/fall at the Post Season.

- Uhm: I think the fact that Flash lost a lot in Proleague will become a medicine for Flash and he'll practice a lot more.

- Uhm: Last season, SKT challenged Hwaseung's coach that "whoever loses shaves their head" and Hwaseung's coach refused. Hwaseung's player saw this and saw that they lost the first battle. Will SKT's coach be able to make that bet this year?

- Kingdom: I would accept, and add more conditions. Not just the coaches, but the players. "Let's have the 2nd place team show up in the first match of next season with completely shaved heads"

- KC: KT's coach would go as far as to say "let's bet our positions on it".

- Uhm: You mean like "Okay, let's shave our heads, and also shave our eyebrows too"

- PD: Is this a tradition?
- Kingdom: They've always done this
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
July 16 2010 23:56 GMT
#2
- KC: I think CJ or SK, one of those two teams will win.
- The biggest reason why KT did well was because of Flash



ok, KT for the champion.... fuuuuuuu
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-17 00:02:37
July 17 2010 00:01 GMT
#3
Ok, I found this show but I'm not sure which episode
someone can confirm

http://www.ongamenet.com/broadcasting/tpl/leagueMain.ogn?leagueId=talkbehind
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
July 17 2010 00:26 GMT
#4
Frozean is the heart of KHAN? Seriously?????

hahahahahahahahah
:]
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
July 17 2010 00:42 GMT
#5
NOOOOOOO

Who is the evil dastardly fiend who deprived Baby of his rainbow socks.

Someone recover those rainbow socks before it's too late, it's Baby's source of ultimate power!



serenidite
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)505 Posts
July 17 2010 00:45 GMT
#6
lol wait. baby had a pair of lucky rainbow socks?
oh my
" Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway."
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
July 17 2010 03:44 GMT
#7
On July 17 2010 08:52 Milkis wrote:
- Uhm: Last season, SKT challenged Hwaseung's coach that "whoever loses shaves their head" and Hwaseung's coach refused. Hwaseung's player saw this and saw that they lost the first battle. Will SKT's coach be able to make that bet this year?

- Kingdom: I would accept, and add more conditions. Not just the coaches, but the players. "Let's have the 2nd place team show up in the first match of next season with completely shaved heads"

- KC: KT's coach would go as far as to say "let's bet our positions on it".

- Uhm: You mean like "Okay, let's shave our heads, and also shave our eyebrows too"

- PD: Is this a tradition?
- Kingdom: They've always done this


This sounds like the perfect plan to back Bisu against the wall .
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Faranth
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
933 Posts
July 17 2010 03:55 GMT
#8
--- Nuked ---
Umbrella
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Taiwan936 Posts
July 17 2010 03:59 GMT
#9
Frozen.... the spiritual center of Samsung...? Can someone explain?
Weasel-
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada1556 Posts
July 17 2010 04:39 GMT
#10
WOW thanks Kim Carrier for picking CJ
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
July 17 2010 04:47 GMT
#11
HAHA!
In the woods, there lurks..
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
July 17 2010 05:00 GMT
#12
OLLEH
Tyvm kim carrier, you sexy sexy baller
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-17 06:05:34
July 17 2010 06:02 GMT
#13
KC curse only applies to OSL >=(
boomer hands
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
July 18 2010 08:17 GMT
#14
This thread didn't get enough exposure.

Thanks Milkis! Loving these translations.
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prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4200 Posts
July 18 2010 08:55 GMT
#15
So that explains baby's huge slump.

I was wondering how he can go from hero to zero in an instant.
( ・´ー・`)
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
July 18 2010 09:03 GMT
#16
On July 17 2010 12:59 Umbrella wrote:
Frozen.... the spiritual center of Samsung...? Can someone explain?

Believe it or not frozean is known throughout the progaming scene as one of the players who practices just as much ( if not more ) than flash/jaedong

frozean used to put himself through rigorous self training but whrnever he played on tv he started xhoking so hard

when you lose a semi senior teammate who used to practice himself to death your team's juniors will without a doubt start slacking off because they dont know who to follow

cuteangel may be a laughing stock but inside the progaming scene he is known to be one of the mosr dedicated players in the world

the beauty of passion is greater than the beauty of victory
dats racist
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
July 18 2010 09:33 GMT
#17
Post Season - Who will make it to the finals to meet KT?


- Kingdom: I think SKT
- Kim Carrier: CJ for me.

[image loading]
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mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
July 18 2010 09:37 GMT
#18
- Uhm: The reason why WeMade will be shaky is because Baby lost his rainbow socks.
- Kindom: Really? The reason is because he lost his socks?
- Uhm: Really.
- Kim Carrier: In the aftershock of that, he was knocked out of Starleague with two losses
- Uhm: It's true! I asked him "Can't you buy the same rainbow socks" and he answered "That pair is a bit special".

Wait what? Really?
Awww man, can't someone find the kid's fucking socks? The team is hurting.
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
July 18 2010 10:04 GMT
#19
thank you kim carrier. :3
김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
July 18 2010 10:40 GMT
#20
thanks for this translation
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-18 11:00:25
July 18 2010 11:00 GMT
#21
On July 18 2010 18:33 IntoTheWow wrote:
Post Season - Who will make it to the finals to meet KT?


- Kingdom: I think SKT
- Kim Carrier: CJ for me.

[image loading]


i was thnking the same hing.

hopefully kim carrier curse doesnt apply to proelague........ -_-
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Dandy4
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States493 Posts
July 18 2010 13:50 GMT
#22
Kim Carrier curse have long since broken. CJ doesn't have to worry.
Who let the dogs out?
terrwf
Profile Joined July 2010
2 Posts
July 19 2010 00:42 GMT
#23
Thank you, Milkis, for all your efforts on translating this episode into English, and sharing this with everyone~~ I also translated your English version into Chinese, and posted it on wfbrood.com under the topic of After Talk with the full credit to Milkis.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
July 19 2010 01:15 GMT
#24
On July 18 2010 18:33 IntoTheWow wrote:
Post Season - Who will make it to the finals to meet KT?


- Kingdom: I think SKT
- Kim Carrier: CJ for me.

[image loading]

Im crushed..
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Caos2
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1728 Posts
July 20 2010 14:15 GMT
#25
I bet STX and KT are giving some rest to their players in the early days of post-season.
The entire lineups of STX and KTFlash were burnout in R5, I expect both to recover their strengths for their matches.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
July 23 2010 00:43 GMT
#26
The curse will always live on!
ALWAYS I WILL BE WITH YOU
dats racist
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
July 23 2010 02:35 GMT
#27
Bah. Kim Carrier simply just spouts out who he thinks will lose when he makes his predictions. That's why the "Effort will win" (Kim Carrier-prediction) still ended up coming true.

I.e. all the professionals knew that SKT was the favorite. "It is self-evident to any ardent followers of professional Brood War".
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 02:39:10
July 23 2010 02:38 GMT
#28
If Kim Carrier just randomly pick a team, he will be 100% opposite of being correct all the time.

Recently, he has been putting too much effort into being wrong.In the end, he became right instead.
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