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Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
August 07 2010 21:30 GMT
#201
On August 08 2010 06:10 TwoToneTerran wrote:
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On August 08 2010 05:40 Lightwip wrote:
On August 08 2010 05:33 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On August 08 2010 04:02 dukethegold wrote:
Hey, I got to see Best's shirt ripping ceremony, the best ceremony of the night no doubt, I am good.


Someone missed the Kong dance. =)

Violet is the most awesome guy. He owns at trashtalk, owns at playing, owns at ceremonies, owns at interviews. He straight up is my favorite progamer.

Not quite sure that he's that good of a player(he's pretty average), but the other stuff is pretty much true.
+ Show Spoiler +
10 shield batteries that heal units all around the map.


You're insane if you don't think Violet is a good player.

He's decent IMO, about the level of Hiya. Not that he's bad, but he's not THAT good.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
August 07 2010 22:32 GMT
#202
Rofl, you consider Hiya "decent." Man you have really high standards.
Remember Violet.
catabowl
Profile Joined November 2009
United States815 Posts
August 07 2010 22:58 GMT
#203
Congrats to KT. They outplayed SKT1 today.

But if you were to tell me, Bisu would get a PvP, Tempest would PvZ, and Best got to snipe ForGG, I would have guaranteed a SKT1 victory. But as the interview said, S2 was completely nervous and Bisu's play was so predictable. I actually think this was bigger for Stats. I laughed at this rookie but apparently he's not bad.

Also, Protoss is imba and everyone knows it now.

Here's to Fantasy winning the MSL now!
Jung! Myung! Hoooooooooooooooooon! #TeamPolt
poptartazn
Profile Joined October 2009
United States84 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-07 23:45:53
August 07 2010 23:11 GMT
#204
On August 03 2010 14:38 dukethegold wrote:
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On August 03 2010 13:10 Vasoline73 wrote:
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On August 03 2010 11:33 b0lt wrote:
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On August 03 2010 11:29 dukethegold wrote:
SKT Toss > KT Toss

I think we have a winner.


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On August 03 2010 07:19 b0lt wrote:
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Boom. Headshot. 

Dukethegold, really I feel bad for you. So Bisu used to be good and won leagues before Flash and Jaedong started heating up. And yeah, BeSt took a "sick" 0-3 loss for silver and hasn't done jack since. Stats and Violet are better PL preformers than Bisu and better v Z and P than Best. Your zerg lineup will fall to our P lineup. 

So in reality

KT T > SKT T
KT P > SKT P
KT Z < SKT Z

and we both know that our zerg lineups are going to suck hard regardless. Hoejja will probably snipe Bisu, maybe Hyuk will snipe anyppi... but we can call it even on that front. 

As for Best.. nothing Flash can't handle as he did in their MSL meeting. You know, where he went 3-0. Jeez Best gets 3-0ed often in important series . 

Flash > any player on SKT really tbh. 
Hoejja is 50/50 vs any of your P's
ForGG is a clutch playoffs player and has finals experience. 
And our P's have been beating your P's for a whole year now...

HMMMMM


You know friend, this Stats person is looking goddamn hot. His PvZ is totally legendary. I mean, he managed to go 1-2 against Clam AND Hydra in individual leagues! I mean, holy cow, taking a game off hydra in PvZ is so freaking awesome, way more noteworthy than winning against Jaedong. Oh wait, didn't Best also win against Hydra in the proleague PLAYOFF? And isn't Bisu 9-1 against Zerg right now? Oh dear me, TLPD must be glitching. =O



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http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/36286_Shine_vs_Stats

And Do Jae Wook Sairs have their own nicknames. Enough said about him >_>
Don't mess with Stats (and other KTs that I didn't read through), SKT fanboy =/

K so I skimmed through some of it for entertainment's sake. You forgot the part where KT didn't have playoff matches to get wins off of since they had already raped everyone else enough in the first 5 seasons to get to the Finals straight through, and the part about SKT zergs being slightly lesser of value than jokes except for that small period of the later seasons where they had a couple streaks (hoejjaplay is indeed truly quality lolsy btw). And for the sake of it I'll add the part about how the word Flash doesn't appear in your post about KT Rolster, but Bisu and Best do about SKT1 =/.

Seeing that KT has made as much financial investment into e-sport as SKT, if not more, I believe that the team deserves its victory celebration after a decade of underwhelming achievement. SKT are born winners and they can always win next year. Besides, we already made a point by forcing our way into GwanAhnLee from the very bottom.


Go back to that guy you pay to wear the bunkie costume and cry more about how much KT spends.
Sigh.. gotta love the fanboyism this season =/
STYLE START SBENU~
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
August 08 2010 03:47 GMT
#205
Seeing that KT has made as much financial investment into e-sport as SKT, if not more, I believe that the team deserves its victory celebration after a decade of underwhelming achievement. SKT are born winners and they can always win next year. Besides, we already made a point by forcing our way into GwanAhnLee from the very bottom.


this statement is so ironic if you watch any other teams sponsored by SKT in Korea hahahahahahahaha
dats racist
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-08 04:02:03
August 08 2010 04:01 GMT
#206
On August 08 2010 08:11 poptartazn wrote:
Go back to that guy you pay to wear the bunkie costume and cry more about how much KT spends.
Sigh.. gotta love the fanboyism this season =/

I remember hearing a rumor that they get a player to wear the bunkie costume.

Also, some people take this healthy pre-match BM a little too seriously.

On August 08 2010 07:58 catabowl wrote:
But if you were to tell me, Bisu would get a PvP, Tempest would PvZ, and Best got to snipe ForGG, I would have guaranteed a SKT1 victory. But as the interview said, S2 was completely nervous and Bisu's play was so predictable. I actually think this was bigger for Stats. I laughed at this rookie but apparently he's not bad.

The Chintoss is a badass. I've been a fan since he carried my Fantasy Winner's League Team, and he hasn't let me down since.
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SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
August 08 2010 04:11 GMT
#207
KT has a pretty nice homegrown team. Yes, Flash was technically traded from Pantech, but that was back when he was a complete unknown (hadn't played a single match with Pantech).

Forgg was bought, and he has been helpful, though not spectacular.
poptartazn
Profile Joined October 2009
United States84 Posts
August 08 2010 04:36 GMT
#208
On August 08 2010 13:01 TheYango wrote:
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On August 08 2010 08:11 poptartazn wrote:
Go back to that guy you pay to wear the bunkie costume and cry more about how much KT spends.
Sigh.. gotta love the fanboyism this season =/

I remember hearing a rumor that they get a player to wear the bunkie costume.

Also, some people take this healthy pre-match BM a little too seriously.

Show nested quote +
On August 08 2010 07:58 catabowl wrote:
But if you were to tell me, Bisu would get a PvP, Tempest would PvZ, and Best got to snipe ForGG, I would have guaranteed a SKT1 victory. But as the interview said, S2 was completely nervous and Bisu's play was so predictable. I actually think this was bigger for Stats. I laughed at this rookie but apparently he's not bad.

The Chintoss is a badass. I've been a fan since he carried my Fantasy Winner's League Team, and he hasn't let me down since.


ooo bunkie's a player? didn't know that..
And meh, its just fun to pick apart a rambling fanboy, regardless of team =/
and side note, Kim Daeyoup was an amazing buy back then =X
STYLE START SBENU~
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
August 08 2010 05:31 GMT
#209
On August 08 2010 13:11 SimonB wrote:
KT has a pretty nice homegrown team. Yes, Flash was technically traded from Pantech, but that was back when he was a complete unknown (hadn't played a single match with Pantech).

Forgg was bought, and he has been helpful, though not spectacular.


Every single KT player who won in the finals was homegrown from KT. It's an entirely different generation and even so much as an entirely different entity from old KTF who bought stars and made a stellar, loveable crew, if a bit tepid.
Remember Violet.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-08 05:54:52
August 08 2010 05:51 GMT
#210
On August 08 2010 08:11 poptartazn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 14:38 dukethegold wrote:
On August 03 2010 13:10 Vasoline73 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 03 2010 11:33 b0lt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 11:29 dukethegold wrote:
SKT Toss > KT Toss

I think we have a winner.


Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 07:19 b0lt wrote:
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Boom. Headshot. 

Dukethegold, really I feel bad for you. So Bisu used to be good and won leagues before Flash and Jaedong started heating up. And yeah, BeSt took a "sick" 0-3 loss for silver and hasn't done jack since. Stats and Violet are better PL preformers than Bisu and better v Z and P than Best. Your zerg lineup will fall to our P lineup. 

So in reality

KT T > SKT T
KT P > SKT P
KT Z < SKT Z

and we both know that our zerg lineups are going to suck hard regardless. Hoejja will probably snipe Bisu, maybe Hyuk will snipe anyppi... but we can call it even on that front. 

As for Best.. nothing Flash can't handle as he did in their MSL meeting. You know, where he went 3-0. Jeez Best gets 3-0ed often in important series . 

Flash > any player on SKT really tbh. 
Hoejja is 50/50 vs any of your P's
ForGG is a clutch playoffs player and has finals experience. 
And our P's have been beating your P's for a whole year now...

HMMMMM


You know friend, this Stats person is looking goddamn hot. His PvZ is totally legendary. I mean, he managed to go 1-2 against Clam AND Hydra in individual leagues! I mean, holy cow, taking a game off hydra in PvZ is so freaking awesome, way more noteworthy than winning against Jaedong. Oh wait, didn't Best also win against Hydra in the proleague PLAYOFF? And isn't Bisu 9-1 against Zerg right now? Oh dear me, TLPD must be glitching. =O



[image loading]

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/36286_Shine_vs_Stats

And Do Jae Wook Sairs have their own nicknames. Enough said about him >_>
Don't mess with Stats (and other KTs that I didn't read through), SKT fanboy =/

K so I skimmed through some of it for entertainment's sake. You forgot the part where KT didn't have playoff matches to get wins off of since they had already raped everyone else enough in the first 5 seasons to get to the Finals straight through, and the part about SKT zergs being slightly lesser of value than jokes except for that small period of the later seasons where they had a couple streaks (hoejjaplay is indeed truly quality lolsy btw). And for the sake of it I'll add the part about how the word Flash doesn't appear in your post about KT Rolster, but Bisu and Best do about SKT1 =/.


Umm, you do realize that Bisu is 3-2 against Shine just as Jaedong is 3-2 against Hyuk, right? I mean, we should give credits where it is due. The fact that Jaedong is able to overcome Hyuk three times out of five is proof of his overwhelming strength, since we all know Hyuk is the next Zerg bonjwa. To discredit Hyuk's bonjwa status is the same as arguing that GuemChi isn't a bonjwa. Pie charts disagree. I don't see how it is shameful for Bisu to have a similar record against THE Typhoon Zerg. Not many players get nicks, especially KT Zergs. Arguing against the power of nickname is like arguing against pie charts or playing wrestling game with a sperm whale.

As for KT not having to play through the playoff, do you guys really want to open that bag of bed sores? I mean, heck, we SKT folks beat through 3 teams twice each, you guys beat us once and walked away with the title. In term of numerical value, SKT has bigger numbers and the claim of greater justice. KT earned its advantage, but it's an unfair one. Life is unfair, not everybody can afford milk and cookies.

Hyuk made Ro16 dual leagues. gg no re. Bonjwa = yes/no

Hey, I never mentioned Fantasy either. If I mention Flash, then I would have had to mention Boxer and Oov, and we all know that's just unfair. Not as unfair as BO1 final, but almost as unfair as Yellow 0-5 finals and Oov 5-0 finals.




On August 08 2010 08:11 poptartazn wrote:
Show nested quote +
Seeing that KT has made as much financial investment into e-sport as SKT, if not more, I believe that the team deserves its victory celebration after a decade of underwhelming achievement. SKT are born winners and they can always win next year. Besides, we already made a point by forcing our way into GwanAhnLee from the very bottom.


Go back to that guy you pay to wear the bunkie costume and cry more about how much KT spends.
Sigh.. gotta love the fanboyism this season =/


Oi, all KT does is copycatting SKT. SKT got a mascot, KT then gets a mascot. SKT got race specific coach, then KT also gets race specific coach. SKT wins the grand final, then KT wins the grand final. SKT is always one step ahead. The 2nd place curse, man, hard to break. But I have to admit, you guys are way ahead on the chin department. But at least our players have bigger nose.

Glad to have you, thestool91.
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-08 06:04:23
August 08 2010 06:03 GMT
#211
On August 08 2010 14:51 dukethegold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2010 08:11 poptartazn wrote:
On August 03 2010 14:38 dukethegold wrote:
On August 03 2010 13:10 Vasoline73 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 03 2010 11:33 b0lt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 11:29 dukethegold wrote:
SKT Toss > KT Toss

I think we have a winner.


Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 07:19 b0lt wrote:
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Boom. Headshot. 

Dukethegold, really I feel bad for you. So Bisu used to be good and won leagues before Flash and Jaedong started heating up. And yeah, BeSt took a "sick" 0-3 loss for silver and hasn't done jack since. Stats and Violet are better PL preformers than Bisu and better v Z and P than Best. Your zerg lineup will fall to our P lineup. 

So in reality

KT T > SKT T
KT P > SKT P
KT Z < SKT Z

and we both know that our zerg lineups are going to suck hard regardless. Hoejja will probably snipe Bisu, maybe Hyuk will snipe anyppi... but we can call it even on that front. 

As for Best.. nothing Flash can't handle as he did in their MSL meeting. You know, where he went 3-0. Jeez Best gets 3-0ed often in important series . 

Flash > any player on SKT really tbh. 
Hoejja is 50/50 vs any of your P's
ForGG is a clutch playoffs player and has finals experience. 
And our P's have been beating your P's for a whole year now...

HMMMMM


You know friend, this Stats person is looking goddamn hot. His PvZ is totally legendary. I mean, he managed to go 1-2 against Clam AND Hydra in individual leagues! I mean, holy cow, taking a game off hydra in PvZ is so freaking awesome, way more noteworthy than winning against Jaedong. Oh wait, didn't Best also win against Hydra in the proleague PLAYOFF? And isn't Bisu 9-1 against Zerg right now? Oh dear me, TLPD must be glitching. =O



[image loading]

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/36286_Shine_vs_Stats

And Do Jae Wook Sairs have their own nicknames. Enough said about him >_>
Don't mess with Stats (and other KTs that I didn't read through), SKT fanboy =/

K so I skimmed through some of it for entertainment's sake. You forgot the part where KT didn't have playoff matches to get wins off of since they had already raped everyone else enough in the first 5 seasons to get to the Finals straight through, and the part about SKT zergs being slightly lesser of value than jokes except for that small period of the later seasons where they had a couple streaks (hoejjaplay is indeed truly quality lolsy btw). And for the sake of it I'll add the part about how the word Flash doesn't appear in your post about KT Rolster, but Bisu and Best do about SKT1 =/.


Umm, you do realize that Bisu is 3-2 against Shine just as Jaedong is 3-2 against Hyuk, right? I mean, we should give credits where it is due. The fact that Jaedong is able to overcome Hyuk three times out of five is proof of his overwhelming strength, since we all know Hyuk is the next Zerg bonjwa. To discredit Hyuk's bonjwa status is the same as arguing that GuemChi isn't a bonjwa. Pie charts disagree. I don't see how it is shameful for Bisu to have a similar record against THE Typhoon Zerg. Not many players get nicks, especially KT Zergs. Arguing against the power of nickname is like arguing against pie charts or playing wrestling game with a sperm whale.

As for KT not having to play through the playoff, do you guys really want to open that bag of bed sores? I mean, heck, we SKT folks beat through 3 teams twice each, you guys beat us once and walked away with the title. In term of numerical value, SKT has bigger numbers and the claim of greater justice. KT earned its advantage, but it's an unfair one. Life is unfair, not everybody can afford milk and cookies.

Hyuk made Ro16 dual leagues. gg no re. Bonjwa = yes/no

Hey, I never mentioned Fantasy either. If I mention Flash, then I would have had to mention Boxer and Oov, and we all know that's just unfair. Not as unfair as BO1 final, but almost as unfair as Yellow 0-5 finals and Oov 5-0 finals.




Show nested quote +
On August 08 2010 08:11 poptartazn wrote:
Seeing that KT has made as much financial investment into e-sport as SKT, if not more, I believe that the team deserves its victory celebration after a decade of underwhelming achievement. SKT are born winners and they can always win next year. Besides, we already made a point by forcing our way into GwanAhnLee from the very bottom.


Go back to that guy you pay to wear the bunkie costume and cry more about how much KT spends.
Sigh.. gotta love the fanboyism this season =/


Oi, all KT does is copycatting SKT. SKT got a mascot, KT then gets a mascot. SKT got race specific coach, then KT also gets race specific coach. SKT wins the grand final, then KT wins the grand final. SKT is always one step ahead. The 2nd place curse, man, hard to break. But I have to admit, you guys are way ahead on the chin department. But at least our players have bigger nose.

Glad to have you, thestool91.

I loled heartily @ this.

SKT just got outplayed, period, by the better team.

Edit: And getting Hyuked for the win was GOLD for KT. :D
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
August 08 2010 06:14 GMT
#212
On August 08 2010 14:51 dukethegold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2010 08:11 poptartazn wrote:
On August 03 2010 14:38 dukethegold wrote:
On August 03 2010 13:10 Vasoline73 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 03 2010 11:33 b0lt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 11:29 dukethegold wrote:
SKT Toss > KT Toss

I think we have a winner.


Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 07:19 b0lt wrote:
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Boom. Headshot. 

Dukethegold, really I feel bad for you. So Bisu used to be good and won leagues before Flash and Jaedong started heating up. And yeah, BeSt took a "sick" 0-3 loss for silver and hasn't done jack since. Stats and Violet are better PL preformers than Bisu and better v Z and P than Best. Your zerg lineup will fall to our P lineup. 

So in reality

KT T > SKT T
KT P > SKT P
KT Z < SKT Z

and we both know that our zerg lineups are going to suck hard regardless. Hoejja will probably snipe Bisu, maybe Hyuk will snipe anyppi... but we can call it even on that front. 

As for Best.. nothing Flash can't handle as he did in their MSL meeting. You know, where he went 3-0. Jeez Best gets 3-0ed often in important series . 

Flash > any player on SKT really tbh. 
Hoejja is 50/50 vs any of your P's
ForGG is a clutch playoffs player and has finals experience. 
And our P's have been beating your P's for a whole year now...

HMMMMM


You know friend, this Stats person is looking goddamn hot. His PvZ is totally legendary. I mean, he managed to go 1-2 against Clam AND Hydra in individual leagues! I mean, holy cow, taking a game off hydra in PvZ is so freaking awesome, way more noteworthy than winning against Jaedong. Oh wait, didn't Best also win against Hydra in the proleague PLAYOFF? And isn't Bisu 9-1 against Zerg right now? Oh dear me, TLPD must be glitching. =O



[image loading]

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/36286_Shine_vs_Stats

And Do Jae Wook Sairs have their own nicknames. Enough said about him >_>
Don't mess with Stats (and other KTs that I didn't read through), SKT fanboy =/

K so I skimmed through some of it for entertainment's sake. You forgot the part where KT didn't have playoff matches to get wins off of since they had already raped everyone else enough in the first 5 seasons to get to the Finals straight through, and the part about SKT zergs being slightly lesser of value than jokes except for that small period of the later seasons where they had a couple streaks (hoejjaplay is indeed truly quality lolsy btw). And for the sake of it I'll add the part about how the word Flash doesn't appear in your post about KT Rolster, but Bisu and Best do about SKT1 =/.


Umm, you do realize that Bisu is 3-2 against Shine just as Jaedong is 3-2 against Hyuk, right? I mean, we should give credits where it is due. The fact that Jaedong is able to overcome Hyuk three times out of five is proof of his overwhelming strength, since we all know Hyuk is the next Zerg bonjwa. To discredit Hyuk's bonjwa status is the same as arguing that GuemChi isn't a bonjwa. Pie charts disagree. I don't see how it is shameful for Bisu to have a similar record against THE Typhoon Zerg. Not many players get nicks, especially KT Zergs. Arguing against the power of nickname is like arguing against pie charts or playing wrestling game with a sperm whale.

As for KT not having to play through the playoff, do you guys really want to open that bag of bed sores? I mean, heck, we SKT folks beat through 3 teams twice each, you guys beat us once and walked away with the title. In term of numerical value, SKT has bigger numbers and the claim of greater justice. KT earned its advantage, but it's an unfair one. Life is unfair, not everybody can afford milk and cookies.


Rofl goddamn either you are trolling (for some reason) or you are just an enormous hypocrite. SKT1 pulled ahead with the exact same advantage last season. It's not unfair. If there wasn't an advantageous seeding then there'd be absolutely no reason to do stellar in proleague. KT busted their asses for that position and proved how well they deserved it vs SKT.
Remember Violet.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-08 06:31:20
August 08 2010 06:28 GMT
#213
On August 08 2010 15:14 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2010 14:51 dukethegold wrote:
On August 08 2010 08:11 poptartazn wrote:
On August 03 2010 14:38 dukethegold wrote:
On August 03 2010 13:10 Vasoline73 wrote:
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On August 03 2010 11:33 b0lt wrote:
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On August 03 2010 11:29 dukethegold wrote:
SKT Toss > KT Toss

I think we have a winner.


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Boom. Headshot. 

Dukethegold, really I feel bad for you. So Bisu used to be good and won leagues before Flash and Jaedong started heating up. And yeah, BeSt took a "sick" 0-3 loss for silver and hasn't done jack since. Stats and Violet are better PL preformers than Bisu and better v Z and P than Best. Your zerg lineup will fall to our P lineup. 

So in reality

KT T > SKT T
KT P > SKT P
KT Z < SKT Z

and we both know that our zerg lineups are going to suck hard regardless. Hoejja will probably snipe Bisu, maybe Hyuk will snipe anyppi... but we can call it even on that front. 

As for Best.. nothing Flash can't handle as he did in their MSL meeting. You know, where he went 3-0. Jeez Best gets 3-0ed often in important series . 

Flash > any player on SKT really tbh. 
Hoejja is 50/50 vs any of your P's
ForGG is a clutch playoffs player and has finals experience. 
And our P's have been beating your P's for a whole year now...

HMMMMM


You know friend, this Stats person is looking goddamn hot. His PvZ is totally legendary. I mean, he managed to go 1-2 against Clam AND Hydra in individual leagues! I mean, holy cow, taking a game off hydra in PvZ is so freaking awesome, way more noteworthy than winning against Jaedong. Oh wait, didn't Best also win against Hydra in the proleague PLAYOFF? And isn't Bisu 9-1 against Zerg right now? Oh dear me, TLPD must be glitching. =O



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And Do Jae Wook Sairs have their own nicknames. Enough said about him >_>
Don't mess with Stats (and other KTs that I didn't read through), SKT fanboy =/

K so I skimmed through some of it for entertainment's sake. You forgot the part where KT didn't have playoff matches to get wins off of since they had already raped everyone else enough in the first 5 seasons to get to the Finals straight through, and the part about SKT zergs being slightly lesser of value than jokes except for that small period of the later seasons where they had a couple streaks (hoejjaplay is indeed truly quality lolsy btw). And for the sake of it I'll add the part about how the word Flash doesn't appear in your post about KT Rolster, but Bisu and Best do about SKT1 =/.


Umm, you do realize that Bisu is 3-2 against Shine just as Jaedong is 3-2 against Hyuk, right? I mean, we should give credits where it is due. The fact that Jaedong is able to overcome Hyuk three times out of five is proof of his overwhelming strength, since we all know Hyuk is the next Zerg bonjwa. To discredit Hyuk's bonjwa status is the same as arguing that GuemChi isn't a bonjwa. Pie charts disagree. I don't see how it is shameful for Bisu to have a similar record against THE Typhoon Zerg. Not many players get nicks, especially KT Zergs. Arguing against the power of nickname is like arguing against pie charts or playing wrestling game with a sperm whale.

As for KT not having to play through the playoff, do you guys really want to open that bag of bed sores? I mean, heck, we SKT folks beat through 3 teams twice each, you guys beat us once and walked away with the title. In term of numerical value, SKT has bigger numbers and the claim of greater justice. KT earned its advantage, but it's an unfair one. Life is unfair, not everybody can afford milk and cookies.


Rofl goddamn either you are trolling (for some reason) or you are just an enormous hypocrite. SKT1 pulled ahead with the exact same advantage last season. It's not unfair. If there wasn't an advantageous seeding then there'd be absolutely no reason to do stellar in proleague. KT busted their asses for that position and proved how well they deserved it vs SKT.


I am neither. As for last year, that was a BO2 with superace. Huge difference, man. CJ roflstomped Oz 4-0 during Day 2 and lost anyway. SKT roflstomped Oz 4-0 Day 1, but Oz dragged to ace without Jaedong Day 2. Can't see how BO1 is a fair indication.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
August 08 2010 06:31 GMT
#214
So? You don't think weeks of preparation time and study doesn't help with a super ace format? It's the same situation, regular season winner busts their ass to get an enormous advantage.
Remember Violet.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
August 08 2010 06:36 GMT
#215
On August 08 2010 15:31 TwoToneTerran wrote:
So? You don't think weeks of preparation time and study doesn't help with a super ace format? It's the same situation, regular season winner busts their ass to get an enormous advantage.


Well, before, all the teams have to go through the same format to win the title. This year, it's BO3 for everything except the grand final. Don't you think there is a bit...irregularity?
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
August 08 2010 07:03 GMT
#216
On August 08 2010 15:28 dukethegold wrote:
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On August 08 2010 15:14 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On August 08 2010 14:51 dukethegold wrote:
On August 08 2010 08:11 poptartazn wrote:
On August 03 2010 14:38 dukethegold wrote:
On August 03 2010 13:10 Vasoline73 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 03 2010 11:33 b0lt wrote:
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On August 03 2010 11:29 dukethegold wrote:
SKT Toss > KT Toss

I think we have a winner.


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On August 03 2010 07:19 b0lt wrote:
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Boom. Headshot. 

Dukethegold, really I feel bad for you. So Bisu used to be good and won leagues before Flash and Jaedong started heating up. And yeah, BeSt took a "sick" 0-3 loss for silver and hasn't done jack since. Stats and Violet are better PL preformers than Bisu and better v Z and P than Best. Your zerg lineup will fall to our P lineup. 

So in reality

KT T > SKT T
KT P > SKT P
KT Z < SKT Z

and we both know that our zerg lineups are going to suck hard regardless. Hoejja will probably snipe Bisu, maybe Hyuk will snipe anyppi... but we can call it even on that front. 

As for Best.. nothing Flash can't handle as he did in their MSL meeting. You know, where he went 3-0. Jeez Best gets 3-0ed often in important series . 

Flash > any player on SKT really tbh. 
Hoejja is 50/50 vs any of your P's
ForGG is a clutch playoffs player and has finals experience. 
And our P's have been beating your P's for a whole year now...

HMMMMM


You know friend, this Stats person is looking goddamn hot. His PvZ is totally legendary. I mean, he managed to go 1-2 against Clam AND Hydra in individual leagues! I mean, holy cow, taking a game off hydra in PvZ is so freaking awesome, way more noteworthy than winning against Jaedong. Oh wait, didn't Best also win against Hydra in the proleague PLAYOFF? And isn't Bisu 9-1 against Zerg right now? Oh dear me, TLPD must be glitching. =O



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http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/36286_Shine_vs_Stats

And Do Jae Wook Sairs have their own nicknames. Enough said about him >_>
Don't mess with Stats (and other KTs that I didn't read through), SKT fanboy =/

K so I skimmed through some of it for entertainment's sake. You forgot the part where KT didn't have playoff matches to get wins off of since they had already raped everyone else enough in the first 5 seasons to get to the Finals straight through, and the part about SKT zergs being slightly lesser of value than jokes except for that small period of the later seasons where they had a couple streaks (hoejjaplay is indeed truly quality lolsy btw). And for the sake of it I'll add the part about how the word Flash doesn't appear in your post about KT Rolster, but Bisu and Best do about SKT1 =/.


Umm, you do realize that Bisu is 3-2 against Shine just as Jaedong is 3-2 against Hyuk, right? I mean, we should give credits where it is due. The fact that Jaedong is able to overcome Hyuk three times out of five is proof of his overwhelming strength, since we all know Hyuk is the next Zerg bonjwa. To discredit Hyuk's bonjwa status is the same as arguing that GuemChi isn't a bonjwa. Pie charts disagree. I don't see how it is shameful for Bisu to have a similar record against THE Typhoon Zerg. Not many players get nicks, especially KT Zergs. Arguing against the power of nickname is like arguing against pie charts or playing wrestling game with a sperm whale.

As for KT not having to play through the playoff, do you guys really want to open that bag of bed sores? I mean, heck, we SKT folks beat through 3 teams twice each, you guys beat us once and walked away with the title. In term of numerical value, SKT has bigger numbers and the claim of greater justice. KT earned its advantage, but it's an unfair one. Life is unfair, not everybody can afford milk and cookies.


Rofl goddamn either you are trolling (for some reason) or you are just an enormous hypocrite. SKT1 pulled ahead with the exact same advantage last season. It's not unfair. If there wasn't an advantageous seeding then there'd be absolutely no reason to do stellar in proleague. KT busted their asses for that position and proved how well they deserved it vs SKT.


I am neither. As for last year, that was a BO2 with superace. Huge difference, man. CJ roflstomped Oz 4-0 during Day 2 and lost anyway. SKT roflstomped Oz 4-0 Day 1, but Oz dragged to ace without Jaedong Day 2. Can't see how BO1 is a fair indication.


I Guess you don't like football championships much?
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MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
August 08 2010 07:33 GMT
#217
KT OGOGOG!
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
wkcalex
Profile Joined August 2010
Uganda29 Posts
August 08 2010 08:19 GMT
#218
I have watched the final, read both SKT and KT threads and it seems to me that despite SKT having some nice fans there are some very annoying ones. Nobody is going to force you to shut up but now that KT has won your opinion doesn't carry as much weight (or not at all?) as it did before the actual final happened. You are good fans with staying by them even when they fail but they don't need you to defend them using nonsensical arguments such as double standards ("if my team wins a game it is recommended, if your team wins a game it is not worth watching"). SKT has already moved on by now so you are no longer needed here to butthurt. If this is a KT bandwagon thread then leave their fanboys be.
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
August 08 2010 08:33 GMT
#219
On August 08 2010 14:51 dukethegold wrote:
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On August 08 2010 08:11 poptartazn wrote:
On August 03 2010 14:38 dukethegold wrote:
On August 03 2010 13:10 Vasoline73 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 03 2010 11:33 b0lt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 11:29 dukethegold wrote:
SKT Toss > KT Toss

I think we have a winner.


Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 07:19 b0lt wrote:
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Boom. Headshot. 

Dukethegold, really I feel bad for you. So Bisu used to be good and won leagues before Flash and Jaedong started heating up. And yeah, BeSt took a "sick" 0-3 loss for silver and hasn't done jack since. Stats and Violet are better PL preformers than Bisu and better v Z and P than Best. Your zerg lineup will fall to our P lineup. 

So in reality

KT T > SKT T
KT P > SKT P
KT Z < SKT Z

and we both know that our zerg lineups are going to suck hard regardless. Hoejja will probably snipe Bisu, maybe Hyuk will snipe anyppi... but we can call it even on that front. 

As for Best.. nothing Flash can't handle as he did in their MSL meeting. You know, where he went 3-0. Jeez Best gets 3-0ed often in important series . 

Flash > any player on SKT really tbh. 
Hoejja is 50/50 vs any of your P's
ForGG is a clutch playoffs player and has finals experience. 
And our P's have been beating your P's for a whole year now...

HMMMMM


You know friend, this Stats person is looking goddamn hot. His PvZ is totally legendary. I mean, he managed to go 1-2 against Clam AND Hydra in individual leagues! I mean, holy cow, taking a game off hydra in PvZ is so freaking awesome, way more noteworthy than winning against Jaedong. Oh wait, didn't Best also win against Hydra in the proleague PLAYOFF? And isn't Bisu 9-1 against Zerg right now? Oh dear me, TLPD must be glitching. =O



[image loading]

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/36286_Shine_vs_Stats

And Do Jae Wook Sairs have their own nicknames. Enough said about him >_>
Don't mess with Stats (and other KTs that I didn't read through), SKT fanboy =/

K so I skimmed through some of it for entertainment's sake. You forgot the part where KT didn't have playoff matches to get wins off of since they had already raped everyone else enough in the first 5 seasons to get to the Finals straight through, and the part about SKT zergs being slightly lesser of value than jokes except for that small period of the later seasons where they had a couple streaks (hoejjaplay is indeed truly quality lolsy btw). And for the sake of it I'll add the part about how the word Flash doesn't appear in your post about KT Rolster, but Bisu and Best do about SKT1 =/.


Umm, you do realize that Bisu is 3-2 against Shine just as Jaedong is 3-2 against Hyuk, right? I mean, we should give credits where it is due. The fact that Jaedong is able to overcome Hyuk three times out of five is proof of his overwhelming strength, since we all know Hyuk is the next Zerg bonjwa. To discredit Hyuk's bonjwa status is the same as arguing that GuemChi isn't a bonjwa. Pie charts disagree. I don't see how it is shameful for Bisu to have a similar record against THE Typhoon Zerg. Not many players get nicks, especially KT Zergs. Arguing against the power of nickname is like arguing against pie charts or playing wrestling game with a sperm whale.

As for KT not having to play through the playoff, do you guys really want to open that bag of bed sores? I mean, heck, we SKT folks beat through 3 teams twice each, you guys beat us once and walked away with the title. In term of numerical value, SKT has bigger numbers and the claim of greater justice. KT earned its advantage, but it's an unfair one. Life is unfair, not everybody can afford milk and cookies.

Hyuk made Ro16 dual leagues. gg no re. Bonjwa = yes/no

Hey, I never mentioned Fantasy either. If I mention Flash, then I would have had to mention Boxer and Oov, and we all know that's just unfair. Not as unfair as BO1 final, but almost as unfair as Yellow 0-5 finals and Oov 5-0 finals.




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On August 08 2010 08:11 poptartazn wrote:
Seeing that KT has made as much financial investment into e-sport as SKT, if not more, I believe that the team deserves its victory celebration after a decade of underwhelming achievement. SKT are born winners and they can always win next year. Besides, we already made a point by forcing our way into GwanAhnLee from the very bottom.


Go back to that guy you pay to wear the bunkie costume and cry more about how much KT spends.
Sigh.. gotta love the fanboyism this season =/


Oi, all KT does is copycatting SKT. SKT got a mascot, KT then gets a mascot. SKT got race specific coach, then KT also gets race specific coach. SKT wins the grand final, then KT wins the grand final. SKT is always one step ahead. The 2nd place curse, man, hard to break. But I have to admit, you guys are way ahead on the chin department. But at least our players have bigger nose.

Glad to have you, thestool91.



hmmm you do realise that this was made during Ever 2009 right after shine outed Bisu from the OSL right?

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Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
August 08 2010 09:07 GMT
#220
On August 08 2010 17:19 wkcalex wrote:
I have watched the final, read both SKT and KT threads and it seems to me that despite SKT having some nice fans there are some very annoying ones. Nobody is going to force you to shut up but now that KT has won your opinion doesn't carry as much weight (or not at all?) as it did before the actual final happened. You are good fans with staying by them even when they fail but they don't need you to defend them using nonsensical arguments such as double standards ("if my team wins a game it is recommended, if your team wins a game it is not worth watching"). SKT has already moved on by now so you are no longer needed here to butthurt. If this is a KT bandwagon thread then leave their fanboys be.

What can I say, fanboyism is fanboyism. Most of the predictions and such is just trashtalk to hype.
IMO none of the games were particularly interesting, maybe 2 if you like the player(I actually might rewatch some of them as instructional VODs because of standard strategy+ domination), but nothing more.
Any trashtalk is just that, pointing out various fails in the careers of each. I wouldn't worry too much about it.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
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