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nurle
Profile Joined August 2009
Norway308 Posts
June 03 2010 10:29 GMT
#181
On June 03 2010 08:29 Mithrandror wrote:
@Bisu Quit now...

Abuse the stardom that still remains to become a model/join a boys band in Korea=>profit!

I'm a big fan of you but there is no chance in hell you're getting out of this slump...


U call urself a fan? reeeetard
Jaedong fucking beast
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-03 13:08:00
June 03 2010 13:06 GMT
#182
On June 03 2010 19:29 nurle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2010 08:29 Mithrandror wrote:
@Bisu Quit now...

Abuse the stardom that still remains to become a model/join a boys band in Korea=>profit!

I'm a big fan of you but there is no chance in hell you're getting out of this slump...


U call urself a fan? reeeetard


Lovely, keep it up guys.

Bisu go find a girl or two and have fun. Being inactive is not helpful at all so he might wanna keep practicing if he wants to end with the current slump hes in.
He should go back to one of the very basics in Starcraft, Im talking about studying his replays pretty sure hes being listening to his coach and teammates instead of focusing on his own ideas plus he got used to a couple of builds and stopped showing a creative play style he turned into another easy to read Protoss. He should do some research on his own games/replays and maybe he will come up once again with some Revolutionary Builds just like he did on 2007.
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
June 03 2010 13:40 GMT
#183
On June 03 2010 22:06 danbel1005 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2010 19:29 nurle wrote:
On June 03 2010 08:29 Mithrandror wrote:
@Bisu Quit now...

Abuse the stardom that still remains to become a model/join a boys band in Korea=>profit!

I'm a big fan of you but there is no chance in hell you're getting out of this slump...


U call urself a fan? reeeetard


Lovely, keep it up guys.

Bisu go find a girl or two and have fun. Being inactive is not helpful at all so he might wanna keep practicing if he wants to end with the current slump hes in.
He should go back to one of the very basics in Starcraft, Im talking about studying his replays pretty sure hes being listening to his coach and teammates instead of focusing on his own ideas plus he got used to a couple of builds and stopped showing a creative play style he turned into another easy to read Protoss. He should do some research on his own games/replays and maybe he will come up once again with some Revolutionary Builds just like he did on 2007.

The thing is, that Bisu popularized it. He didn't invent it. It was invented by the MBCGame progaming team. I think it was mentioned during an interview that Bisu actually is really bad at making builds as opposed to Best.
In the woods, there lurks..
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-03 16:57:23
June 03 2010 16:55 GMT
#184
On June 03 2010 22:40 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2010 22:06 danbel1005 wrote:
On June 03 2010 19:29 nurle wrote:
On June 03 2010 08:29 Mithrandror wrote:
@Bisu Quit now...

Abuse the stardom that still remains to become a model/join a boys band in Korea=>profit!

I'm a big fan of you but there is no chance in hell you're getting out of this slump...


U call urself a fan? reeeetard


Lovely, keep it up guys.

Bisu go find a girl or two and have fun. Being inactive is not helpful at all so he might wanna keep practicing if he wants to end with the current slump hes in.
He should go back to one of the very basics in Starcraft, Im talking about studying his replays pretty sure hes being listening to his coach and teammates instead of focusing on his own ideas plus he got used to a couple of builds and stopped showing a creative play style he turned into another easy to read Protoss. He should do some research on his own games/replays and maybe he will come up once again with some Revolutionary Builds just like he did on 2007.

The thing is, that Bisu popularized it. He didn't invent it. It was invented by the MBCGame progaming team. I think it was mentioned during an interview that Bisu actually is really bad at making builds as opposed to Best.


Lol, no. Go read this interview:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=50443

Yes, that's right. That is the post-interview after Bisu 3-0 Ma Bonjwa

You won 3-0.
>During practice session, I discovered very good build against zerg. Due to this, I was frustrated many times from practicing last night. I thought, ‘ I shouldn’t lose like this tomorrow’. I believe I won because Mah Jae Yoon’s builds were not particularly intimidating, but rather comfortable. None other than myself believed that I would win 3-0. (laughs) I feel like I avenged against those people by winning 3-0. (laughs)


You used dark templars very well today.
>My main strategy was dark templar. From practicing, I realized that dark templar was the best to use. It was effective because it could kill drone with one shot. From now on, I’m going to be using dark templar a lot. Opponents can’t predict where my dark templar will appear. They should now be aware of my dark templar.


Yes yes, Corsair/DT combo was first utilized long long long time ago by (P)DaezanG, ineffectively. But did you think that Bisu dug up a build that old? No, he reinvented it, perfected its timing and made it work. Don't forget, the Bisu Build is one that requires heavy multi-tasking, one that suits his style perfectly and can only be perfectly utlized by him.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
June 03 2010 17:06 GMT
#185
On June 04 2010 01:55 dukethegold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2010 22:40 Iplaythings wrote:
On June 03 2010 22:06 danbel1005 wrote:
On June 03 2010 19:29 nurle wrote:
On June 03 2010 08:29 Mithrandror wrote:
@Bisu Quit now...

Abuse the stardom that still remains to become a model/join a boys band in Korea=>profit!

I'm a big fan of you but there is no chance in hell you're getting out of this slump...


U call urself a fan? reeeetard


Lovely, keep it up guys.

Bisu go find a girl or two and have fun. Being inactive is not helpful at all so he might wanna keep practicing if he wants to end with the current slump hes in.
He should go back to one of the very basics in Starcraft, Im talking about studying his replays pretty sure hes being listening to his coach and teammates instead of focusing on his own ideas plus he got used to a couple of builds and stopped showing a creative play style he turned into another easy to read Protoss. He should do some research on his own games/replays and maybe he will come up once again with some Revolutionary Builds just like he did on 2007.

The thing is, that Bisu popularized it. He didn't invent it. It was invented by the MBCGame progaming team. I think it was mentioned during an interview that Bisu actually is really bad at making builds as opposed to Best.


Lol, no. Go read this interview:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=50443

Yes, that's right. That is the post-interview after Bisu 3-0 Ma Bonjwa

Show nested quote +
You won 3-0.
>During practice session, I discovered very good build against zerg. Due to this, I was frustrated many times from practicing last night. I thought, ‘ I shouldn’t lose like this tomorrow’. I believe I won because Mah Jae Yoon’s builds were not particularly intimidating, but rather comfortable. None other than myself believed that I would win 3-0. (laughs) I feel like I avenged against those people by winning 3-0. (laughs)


Show nested quote +
You used dark templars very well today.
>My main strategy was dark templar. From practicing, I realized that dark templar was the best to use. It was effective because it could kill drone with one shot. From now on, I’m going to be using dark templar a lot. Opponents can’t predict where my dark templar will appear. They should now be aware of my dark templar.


Yes yes, Corsair/DT combo was first utilized long long long time ago by (P)DaezanG, ineffectively. But did you think that Bisu dug up a build that old? No, he reinvented it, perfected its timing and made it work. Don't forget, the Bisu Build is one that requires heavy multi-tasking, one that suits his style perfectly and can only be perfectly utlized by him.

Then he contradicted himself in another interview, didnt read that. I know what I read. And Reach also was the first to use Sair DT fyi.
In the woods, there lurks..
barth
Profile Joined March 2008
Ireland1272 Posts
June 03 2010 17:44 GMT
#186
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KT isn`t #1 team for no reason.
"Somebody you are talking to disappears mid sentence, and the universe shoots you because you talked to someone that wasn`t there." - MasterOfChaos
Aro_X
Profile Joined February 2009
United States106 Posts
June 03 2010 17:52 GMT
#187
well just cuz he isnt as good as best in making builds doesnt mean he cant make a new build
You're slow, even when falling.
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
June 03 2010 18:29 GMT
#188
On June 04 2010 02:52 Aro_X wrote:
well just cuz he isnt as good as best in making builds doesnt mean he cant make a new build


Best is good at making builds? How many versions of 2 base arbiter can there possibly be?
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
Aro_X
Profile Joined February 2009
United States106 Posts
June 03 2010 18:54 GMT
#189
On June 04 2010 03:29 SubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2010 02:52 Aro_X wrote:
well just cuz he isnt as good as best in making builds doesnt mean he cant make a new build


Best is good at making builds? How many versions of 2 base arbiter can there possibly be?


im just going by what that guy said, to be honest i dont follow brood war aside from a few starleague finals
You're slow, even when falling.
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
June 03 2010 19:48 GMT
#190
Best anti ever. Take your time Bisu!
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
June 03 2010 20:14 GMT
#191
On June 04 2010 03:29 SubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2010 02:52 Aro_X wrote:
well just cuz he isnt as good as best in making builds doesnt mean he cant make a new build


Best is good at making builds? How many versions of 2 base arbiter can there possibly be?

No idea, as the guy above beat me to, we are just saying what we read in the interview.
And besides, I think he meant all MU's...

And his 2 bawse arb trend has stopped recently imo?
In the woods, there lurks..
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 03 2010 20:51 GMT
#192
Kingdom : Bisu started playing incredibly standard and predictable around an year ago if I recall correctly.
As the coach for both Best and Bisu if I compare the two together, Bisu was not that good at making Build Orders at all. In fact, Best was a much better at making new strategies and build orders for his games. Best was very good at making transitioning build orders and new and exciting build orders to throw off his opponents. But on the other hand Bisu had a really hard time changing his strategies and trying out new things. What Bisu was good at doing was copying and modifying builds Stork and Kal used previously to win games and making it better.


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