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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
April 22 2010 04:35 GMT
#161
On April 20 2010 00:33 Zato-1 wrote:
If Flash wins both the upcoming OSL and MSL, I'll call him bonjwa.


What the hell.

I don't think people realize just how difficult winning simultaneous OSL/MSL's are. It's so difficult in fact that only ONE PERSON has ever managed to do it. EVER.
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Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-22 16:56:06
April 22 2010 16:49 GMT
#162
As of now only 2 players are withing 200 point range of flash (elo wise).

Once upon a time 2300 was considered almost unreachable, 2200 S-class.
If 2200 is the region where it's getting hard to breathe, and 2300 the very top of the mountain, then Flash has been gently floating in a high orbit around planet Broodwar for the last months.
It looks pretty damn good for a dual title...
(If JD and Sea lose some of their next games we might even see Flash with a 200 point lead on second rank.)
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
April 22 2010 17:06 GMT
#163
Let's just hope that Flash doesn't end up betting against himself like Savior did ^^
Hello
Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
April 22 2010 17:54 GMT
#164
On April 17 2010 12:05 Highways wrote:
lol bonjwa?? He still needs way more titles.

Dominance doesn't mean much if you cannot bring home the titles.

Doesn't it??

IMO if he is owning people all the time but gets unlucky in the major competitions he's still the fucking king, titles or no.

Like if every other progamer says "flash is better than me" and flash wins like 99.9% of his games but due to freak occurrences/poor coping with pressure abilities he never wins ONE title EVER then I think he is still the bonjwa. Titles mean SHIT imo.
Speak properly, and in as few words as you can, but always plainly; for the end of speech is not ostentation, but to be understood.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
April 22 2010 18:15 GMT
#165
We'll need to see if Baby can royal road ^^.

Seriously though, Flash right now is just playing on a whole 'nother level. He understands the game, bottom to top, and the maps are making it so that T is still pretty good. Even though no such thing as a bonjwa exists anymore, he is as close as you can get without following the pattern. He just straight up looks unbeatable right now, except possibly by JD. I'm not sure who from the protoss side would even have a shot against him (Kal, except he's been inconsistent....)
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StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
April 22 2010 18:18 GMT
#166
Flash is only bonjwa if he gets 3 MSL and 3 OSL gold in a row while keeping 90% winration atleast during that time.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
April 22 2010 18:19 GMT
#167
On April 23 2010 03:18 StylishVODs wrote:
Flash is only bonjwa if he gets 3 MSL and 3 OSL gold in a row while keeping 90% winration atleast during that time.


It's funny because this seems to be how some people literally think
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
hejakev
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden518 Posts
April 22 2010 18:25 GMT
#168
On April 17 2010 08:40 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2010 08:36 DeathByMonkeys wrote:
On April 17 2010 08:34 Trezeguet23 wrote:
Just goes to show that he can beat everyone but Jaedong.



Ahaha, if only they could play right now so Flash could utterly destroy the shit outta Jaedong and shut his fan boys up.


Flash has gotten dismantled in every bo5 they've played.

:/


When was the last time Jaedong lost a bo5? I don't know if I've ever seen it happen, now that I think of it
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-22 18:29:27
April 22 2010 18:27 GMT
#169
On April 23 2010 03:25 hejakev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2010 08:40 Mindcrime wrote:
On April 17 2010 08:36 DeathByMonkeys wrote:
On April 17 2010 08:34 Trezeguet23 wrote:
Just goes to show that he can beat everyone but Jaedong.



Ahaha, if only they could play right now so Flash could utterly destroy the shit outta Jaedong and shut his fan boys up.


Flash has gotten dismantled in every bo5 they've played.

:/


When was the last time Jaedong lost a bo5? I don't know if I've ever seen it happen, now that I think of it

He lost to Calm 1-3 in the semifinals of the MSL that Calm won.

...Right before destroying Fantasy and Yarnc and winning the Golden Mouse.

Edit: He also lost in the finals of the Arena MSL to ForGG. Those two are his only Bo5 defeats in starleagues. (The loss to Rock was in some kind of qualifying league wasn't it?)
May the BeSt man win.
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
April 22 2010 18:28 GMT
#170
On April 23 2010 03:25 hejakev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2010 08:40 Mindcrime wrote:
On April 17 2010 08:36 DeathByMonkeys wrote:
On April 17 2010 08:34 Trezeguet23 wrote:
Just goes to show that he can beat everyone but Jaedong.



Ahaha, if only they could play right now so Flash could utterly destroy the shit outta Jaedong and shut his fan boys up.


Flash has gotten dismantled in every bo5 they've played.

:/


When was the last time Jaedong lost a bo5? I don't know if I've ever seen it happen, now that I think of it


Against Calm in one of the 09 MSL Semi-finals. Unfortunately for him at the time he had a very tight schedule.
Fumi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
529 Posts
April 22 2010 18:34 GMT
#171
On April 23 2010 03:18 StylishVODs wrote:
Flash is only bonjwa if he gets 3 MSL and 3 OSL gold in a row while keeping 90% winration atleast during that time.

95% winrate and I'll call him a bonjwa, he can't be a bonjwa with just 90%.
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VerticalHorizon
Profile Joined September 2004
United States415 Posts
April 22 2010 18:43 GMT
#172
On April 17 2010 10:25 Pokebunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2010 10:19 f10esqftw wrote:
It probably took someone less than a week to beat the Brood War campaign.... now, over 10 years later, Flash has finally beaten the multiplayer as well.


Hahahaha


LOL This quote needs more love
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Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-22 18:51:33
April 22 2010 18:51 GMT
#173
On April 23 2010 02:54 Reason wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2010 12:05 Highways wrote:
lol bonjwa?? He still needs way more titles.

Dominance doesn't mean much if you cannot bring home the titles.

Doesn't it??

IMO if he is owning people all the time but gets unlucky in the major competitions he's still the fucking king, titles or no.

Like if every other progamer says "flash is better than me" and flash wins like 99.9% of his games but due to freak occurrences/poor coping with pressure abilities he never wins ONE title EVER then I think he is still the bonjwa. Titles mean SHIT imo.


Why stop at disregarding titles? We may as well disregard all televised games

yooi and magma were clearly bonjwas. they just got unlucky and couldn't cope with pressure
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
LuDwig-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Italy1143 Posts
April 22 2010 18:52 GMT
#174
You have missed the nal_ra game vs flash

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=116942
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=120015&currentpage=98<--Search the HotBid's Post
Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
April 23 2010 11:51 GMT
#175
On April 23 2010 03:51 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2010 02:54 Reason wrote:
On April 17 2010 12:05 Highways wrote:
lol bonjwa?? He still needs way more titles.

Dominance doesn't mean much if you cannot bring home the titles.

Doesn't it??

IMO if he is owning people all the time but gets unlucky in the major competitions he's still the fucking king, titles or no.

Like if every other progamer says "flash is better than me" and flash wins like 99.9% of his games but due to freak occurrences/poor coping with pressure abilities he never wins ONE title EVER then I think he is still the bonjwa. Titles mean SHIT imo.


Why stop at disregarding titles? We may as well disregard all televised games

yooi and magma were clearly bonjwas. they just got unlucky and couldn't cope with pressure

Haven't seen enough games to be able to comment on that I'm afraid, but if what you are saying is true then yeah I would view those guys as bonjwas. Anyone who is tearing up the best of the best with a 80/90 + % winrate is clearly a god.
Speak properly, and in as few words as you can, but always plainly; for the end of speech is not ostentation, but to be understood.
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
April 23 2010 12:02 GMT
#176
The commentators already settled this in the WL finals.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
April 23 2010 12:26 GMT
#177
Since May 2009, almost a year. Flash has been insane:
Record: 112 wins - 27 losses (80.58%)

According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Kwanroller
Profile Joined April 2010
Afghanistan459 Posts
April 23 2010 12:36 GMT
#178
Bonjwa argument has always been shit but who cares. Anyone actually watching Starcraft right now without rose tinted glassed can see Flash pretty much rolling everyone as hard as Oov did in his prime, if not harder.

Bonjwa or not, he's clearly the best player right now by far even if he lost the NATE MSL to Jaedong.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
April 23 2010 13:05 GMT
#179
look at this:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?type=players&id=211&part=games&league=standard

and then look at this:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?type=players&id=424&part=games&league=standard

The mighty Jaedong looks like a joke.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7928 Posts
April 23 2010 13:30 GMT
#180
On April 23 2010 02:06 PH wrote:
Let's just hope that Flash doesn't end up betting against himself like Savior did ^^

He can just bet on himself and make just as much money.

On April 23 2010 03:43 VerticalHorizon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2010 10:25 Pokebunny wrote:
On April 17 2010 10:19 f10esqftw wrote:
It probably took someone less than a week to beat the Brood War campaign.... now, over 10 years later, Flash has finally beaten the multiplayer as well.


Hahahaha


LOL This quote needs more love

Hahahahahaha that was awesome.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
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