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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43869 Posts
January 24 2010 03:18 GMT
#121
Sure. I won't switch my stream on on tl because I won't be 1v1ing etc but that'd be np.
http://www.livestream.com/legacy_uk
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43869 Posts
January 24 2010 03:19 GMT
#122
pm nO-ViCe on icc when you're ready.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-24 03:47:19
January 24 2010 03:21 GMT
#123
edit: nvm~~~
dats racist
Conquest101
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1395 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-24 03:32:23
January 24 2010 03:28 GMT
#124
On January 24 2010 12:22 KwarK wrote:
Commentator completely ignores the fact there were two defilers there that had both just consumed a few lings each.


On January 24 2010 12:24 KwarK wrote:
Also both of them had extractors on them. If you watch the vod you can clearly see this lol.


On January 24 2010 12:24 KwarK wrote:
And JaeDong's main and natural were both mining which is more than one base.


On January 24 2010 12:25 KwarK wrote:
And at the blackout there were 7 drones at 7 by my count.

Which game was this guy commentating? It sounds interesting.


On January 24 2010 12:25 koreasilver wrote:
You translated it wrong. He clearly said "Jaedong was running on both his natural and main" which is 2 bases.


On January 24 2010 12:26 Nytefish wrote:
The commentator seems to be talking about what was seen in the "replayed" vod rather than the extra bit before the black out.


Dousing the fire a bit again.
I'm not sure what game that commentator was talking about either.

Edit:
On January 24 2010 12:29 KwarK wrote:
I forgot to add "1 almost up" to that screenshot too. I think nytefish is right, the commentator is talking about the last big attack Flash did, 20 seconds before the blackout. It was an impressive attack and 2 ultralisks and a few great swarms held it off, killing a lot of marines. The commentator makes a strong case for Flash's last attack being viable. But we saw that attack. We saw the "30 more seconds" the commentator is talking about. JD destroyed Flash's army and Flash abandoned the attack and camped his mineral only.


I just REALLY don't want anyone to take this out of context and start thinking that Flash had an advantage or some stupid nonsense.
Romantic
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1844 Posts
January 24 2010 03:32 GMT
#125
How can JD be running on one base when he still has his main, nat, and 3\7? Flash is mined out of his main and almost his nat, but Zerg doesn't have as many workers per base so JD should have minerals left in his main\nat, even if he has no drones at 3 or 7 (he had drones at 7 IIRC).

igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
January 24 2010 03:50 GMT
#126
Nifty. I don't think Flash would have died in 20 seconds; he was microing very well to force Jaedong to leapfrog swarms, and he was doing an ok job of fighting off ultras with medic walls.

But flash was all in for several minutes, and attacks weren't getting any stronger while Jaedong was.

I'd like to see this posted on korean sites when it's finished.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
January 24 2010 07:16 GMT
#127
Jesus christ, dude.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
January 24 2010 07:28 GMT
#128
How are people getting the saved games to work? Are you using a special launcher?
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
roMAD
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Russia2355 Posts
January 24 2010 12:03 GMT
#129
Wanted to try it out with FanTaSy, but i've only got 1 save file; T_T
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43869 Posts
January 24 2010 12:07 GMT
#130
romad, if you pm me or message nO-ViCe on icc i'll see if I can play it through with you. So far I've only been able to successfully play it with warrior-350 but hopefully I can get it to work.

If not, the situation was actually relatively easy to recreate. I'll post my estimates at everything in the game after my nw is done.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9037 Posts
January 24 2010 12:08 GMT
#131
It all started with Calm vs Kwanro...
praetor.at
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Austria92 Posts
January 24 2010 12:22 GMT
#132
On January 24 2010 09:18 gumbum8 wrote:
A regame would be fucking ridiculous
You'd be pissed if you won the best game of your life and had to throw it out the window. You know it. Fucking Enraged.
You'd be pissed if you were clearly losing a game and almost get lucky and get a regame but instead they give the other guy a win. At least you can pretend you have a legitimate reason to be angry.


enraged jaedong = flash dies?

from my perspective, jaedong has often elevated his play even another notch when under pressure.
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-24 14:54:24
January 24 2010 14:04 GMT
#133
I thought you had to have the same user name as the players in the game to play in a saved game. At least I remember doing that when I played with friends on LAN, at one point we switched computers (so different save files) and changed our names; and it worked. Of course I could be remembering wrong, it was a long while ago.

Save games are very buggy though, sometimes they're just unplayable for no reason.

Anyway this is a waste of time, I've made a much simpler, accurate depiction of the game:

[image loading]
No I'm never serious.
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
January 25 2010 17:46 GMT
#134
On January 24 2010 23:04 Nytefish wrote:
I thought you had to have the same user name as the players in the game to play in a saved game. At least I remember doing that when I played with friends on LAN, at one point we switched computers (so different save files) and changed our names; and it worked. Of course I could be remembering wrong, it was a long while ago.

Save games are very buggy though, sometimes they're just unplayable for no reason.

Anyway this is a waste of time, I've made a much simpler, accurate depiction of the game:

[image loading]

White is rigged.
wat
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
January 25 2010 18:01 GMT
#135
On January 24 2010 23:04 Nytefish wrote:
I thought you had to have the same user name as the players in the game to play in a saved game. At least I remember doing that when I played with friends on LAN, at one point we switched computers (so different save files) and changed our names; and it worked. Of course I could be remembering wrong, it was a long while ago.

Save games are very buggy though, sometimes they're just unplayable for no reason.

Anyway this is a waste of time, I've made a much simpler, accurate depiction of the game:

[image loading]
BUT NO MAN FLASH COULD HAVE WON


WHAT IF HE GOT HIS PAWN TO THE EIGHT RANK

WHAT THEN
DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
January 25 2010 18:05 GMT
#136
On January 26 2010 03:01 Zozma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2010 23:04 Nytefish wrote:
I thought you had to have the same user name as the players in the game to play in a saved game. At least I remember doing that when I played with friends on LAN, at one point we switched computers (so different save files) and changed our names; and it worked. Of course I could be remembering wrong, it was a long while ago.

Save games are very buggy though, sometimes they're just unplayable for no reason.

Anyway this is a waste of time, I've made a much simpler, accurate depiction of the game:

[image loading]
BUT NO MAN FLASH COULD HAVE WON


WHAT IF HE GOT HIS PAWN TO THE EIGHT RANK

WHAT THEN


My feelings precisely.
love1another
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1844 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-25 18:24:03
January 25 2010 18:22 GMT
#137
On January 26 2010 03:05 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2010 03:01 Zozma wrote:
On January 24 2010 23:04 Nytefish wrote:
I thought you had to have the same user name as the players in the game to play in a saved game. At least I remember doing that when I played with friends on LAN, at one point we switched computers (so different save files) and changed our names; and it worked. Of course I could be remembering wrong, it was a long while ago.

Save games are very buggy though, sometimes they're just unplayable for no reason.

Anyway this is a waste of time, I've made a much simpler, accurate depiction of the game:

[image loading]
BUT NO MAN FLASH COULD HAVE WON


WHAT IF HE GOT HIS PAWN TO THE EIGHT RANK

WHAT THEN


My feelings precisely.


It wouldn't matter. This is a terrible example. Checkmate in two moves regardless of who goes first. (by two I mean total. as soon as black moves it's over.)
"I'm learning more and more that TL isn't the place to go for advice outside of anything you need in college. It's like you guys just make up your own fantasy world shit and post it as if you've done it." - Chill
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
January 25 2010 18:33 GMT
#138
lol I don't know why people are putting so much effort into this. I thought most of the anger was directed at MBC for having a faulty system. The decision's made and won't be changed regardless of whether it was the right one or not.
love1another
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1844 Posts
January 25 2010 18:34 GMT
#139
Sorry. T_T I used to play a lot of chess, so when I see absurd situations like that I can't help but cry foul.
"I'm learning more and more that TL isn't the place to go for advice outside of anything you need in college. It's like you guys just make up your own fantasy world shit and post it as if you've done it." - Chill
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
January 25 2010 18:48 GMT
#140
If there was a re-game there would have been talk ALL OVER about how there was a conspiracy against Jaedong, and that the blackout was contrived against him. He clearly had the game, there was no fairer way to do it, yes it sucked, but that's the facts.

Funny, to convince a friend of mine of jaedong's commanding position I told him that I'd bet I could have beaten flash if I was playing from jaedong's positioning, and I'm D+ Now with this replay those things can be tried.
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