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nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-20 16:24:54
January 20 2010 16:23 GMT
#101
How does this improve rating in anyway? People will just watch online...
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
January 20 2010 16:24 GMT
#102
I do care that the players wont be playing in front of a live audience, as that kindve stuff is what seperates great players from great practice partners. Pressure plays a huge rule in pro SC, where nearly everyone has amazing execution in the practice house but starts making mistakes on live TV.
Writerman what
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
January 20 2010 16:25 GMT
#103
On January 21 2010 01:14 Chill wrote:
To be honest I don't really care. Not sure why I'm even writing this comment then, but it seems necessary to break up the last 100 comments where people's lives are ending.


Ya honestly I don't think this will change anything for us at all. And neither for the people attending since the fan clubs are the ones that really care about the players, I imagine the rest is mostly attending for the games itself.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
January 20 2010 16:25 GMT
#104
OH MY FUCKING GOD WHAT THE SHIT
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
HeartOfTofu
Profile Joined December 2009
United States308 Posts
January 20 2010 16:27 GMT
#105
On January 21 2010 01:14 Chill wrote:
To be honest I don't really care. Not sure why I'm even writing this comment then, but it seems necessary to break up the last 100 comments where people's lives are ending.


This would be the equivalent of having a World Cup (or any sports final) game played on an empty field separated from the crowd because that crowd might disturb the players' concentration... I think a move like this would be ridiculed regardless of the type of competition it was applied to. It's just a stupid move no matter how you look at it.
I like to asphixiate myself while covered in liquid latex... Do you?
routine
Profile Joined January 2010
United States40 Posts
January 20 2010 16:28 GMT
#106
I live in USA so it doesnt really matter for me. But i think MBC needs to think about the fans on this one...
There's a fine line between looking good and looking gay
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
January 20 2010 16:29 GMT
#107
Let's make next World Cup finals be played in some undisclosed stadium closed to the public so they don't get nervous. People can watch it from some sports bar.

This is so fucking ridiculous. Nerves? Man, that's the point of the finals. Not cracking under the pressure is what makes the different between a great player and a champion. Movie seemed so damn nervous on the finals vs Flash, and it did affect his game, but I bet if he was asked if he could go back in time and have the finals behind closed-doors he will say fuck no.

The whole experience of being in front of thousands of people, feeling the mouse slipping from your hand because of your own sweat, your heart threatening to break free from your chest, the glory you savor when you win, and the desolation that you feel when you lose, coming out hardened after shredding tears in front of your fans... That's the whole goddamn point, you fucking MBC morons!

Seriously, this is the fastest way to drive fans away from your ratings, and this is what we get from one of the most anticipated finals in a long time.
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
January 20 2010 16:30 GMT
#108
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Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
tirentu
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1257 Posts
January 20 2010 16:34 GMT
#109
All aboard the failtrain. It's-a-crashing!
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5460 Posts
January 20 2010 16:34 GMT
#110
lol..........

so what happens when the winner's celebration starts. do they stream a VOD of the winning player's team stepping into the studio with champagne and give the trophy to the player in an empty room? lol and i guess they can skimp on confetti costs because its a much smaller studio. and the winner doesn't have to get "nervous" (lol) while delivering his victory speech. so many of the epic factors are gone now.
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Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9027 Posts
January 20 2010 16:36 GMT
#111
I can't believe South Korea is not a communist country. WTF is this. Well it's time for SC1 to die I guess. Let's hope SC2 won't be "korean".
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
January 20 2010 16:36 GMT
#112
This cannot be true.
It simply cannot be true.

Who's in charge there? Ronald McDonald?


FUCK!!!
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
January 20 2010 16:37 GMT
#113
On January 21 2010 00:10 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2010 00:04 HeartOfTofu wrote:+ Show Spoiler +


You know it's old when they're playing on Space Odyssey.

you know it's old when they go gas before gate x_x

I think I want to see what MBC does with this before criticizing them too harshly. Maybe they'll do something awesome, but the chances of that are probably slim given their current record of screwing things up.
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
January 20 2010 16:38 GMT
#114
MBC is gonna used rigged copies of SC like they did with w3.
Everything about this MSL is rigged.
RIGGED! CONSPIRACY!
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
January 20 2010 16:41 GMT
#115
Am I the only one who feels it's retarded that they are putting the two most "fan-related stress"-free players in a stress-free finals while on the other hand the OGN organizers let a first-time royal roader be nearly eaten alive by a howling mob?

tl;dr both JD and Flash are already resilient to stress enough, they already don't notice if somebody is watching them play and don't need anything to be done about that.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 20 2010 16:43 GMT
#116
That's pretty stupid, but I still get to see the games so w/e

I just hope this doesn't do damage to the MSL as an entity
RIP Aaliyah
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
January 20 2010 16:45 GMT
#117
why would anyone fucking go to the auditorium since its just the same seeing anywhere else.. -_-

oh fuck you MBC.

who cares about the players' being fully concentrated..
its about dealing with the PRESSURE of having THOUSANDS watching you
PLAY. if you even lose the damn concentration it means that you do not
cut it to be the CHAMPION.

talk about great finals atmosphere, heh.

fuck you again MBC -.-
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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
January 20 2010 16:49 GMT
#118
hahaha what a joke.
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2663 Posts
January 20 2010 16:53 GMT
#119
On January 20 2010 22:29 Flicky wrote:
This is so ridiculous... 700 fans can go? I was expecting 10,000 people to be queuing around the block to see this =/


In hindsight, just as many people will be on IRC, just as many on vent... this barely affects me at all.

Sucks for the Koreans but I don't really care that much.
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Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
January 20 2010 16:55 GMT
#120
On January 21 2010 01:53 Flicky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2010 22:29 Flicky wrote:
This is so ridiculous... 700 fans can go? I was expecting 10,000 people to be queuing around the block to see this =/


In hindsight, just as many people will be on IRC, just as many on vent... this barely affects me at all.

Sucks for the Koreans but I don't really care that much.


then you don't understand anything
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