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HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
January 20 2010 20:06 GMT
#181
On January 21 2010 05:00 thopol wrote:
It's worth mentioning that the pressure of playing in front of a huge audience for a big title is part of what makes finals great. It's all supposed to be on the line and how well the players keep their cool is a big component. So disappointing from every angle.

EDIT: How pissed are Korean netizens?



As pissed as a swarm of teenage girls in Columbus, Ohio, who just found out that the Jonas Brothers concert at the Nationwide Arena got cancelled (the first big-name local concert in the last 16 years and 7 months). Judy Pinkerman, who had gotten good grades for the past three months just so her hard-working parents would buy her tickets, (even cheating on her Spanish test to do so) is especially enraged. She looks at her hand-made Nick Jonas sign, with extra glitter, thinking about all those hours spent wrestling with Elmer's glue, as the red mist descends upon her...
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Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
January 20 2010 20:06 GMT
#182
On January 21 2010 05:03 vnlegend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2010 04:58 Puosu wrote:
FUCK YOU MBCGAME

You want StarCraft to be even more far away from being recognized as a real, competitive sport?

God damn there's so much wrong with this, hang the fuckers who decided on this.
On January 21 2010 04:56 n.DieJokes wrote:
holy fuck these games are going to be so so good. Haven't progamers always been saying they play a thousand times better during practice

Practice is still very very different

most of the "bad play" is generated by it being the finals and not a worthless practice game, not the crowd.

edit: And what the fuck is the rationale behind doing this when its the most awaited match in YEARS? If you want to test some useless shit do it when there's a match that nobody cares about like mumyung vs pokju ffs.

You, and others who feel similarly, should boycott MBCGame all together and not watch the MSL Finals. It looks like you're calling something shyt and eating it at the same time.

But when the shit is covered on the best god damn candies in the world you just cant resists the temptation.

Those candies are Jaedong and Flash.
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
January 20 2010 20:11 GMT
#183
On January 21 2010 05:06 HonestTea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2010 05:00 thopol wrote:
It's worth mentioning that the pressure of playing in front of a huge audience for a big title is part of what makes finals great. It's all supposed to be on the line and how well the players keep their cool is a big component. So disappointing from every angle.

EDIT: How pissed are Korean netizens?



As pissed as a swarm of teenage girls in Columbus, Ohio, who just found out that the Jonas Brothers concert at the Nationwide Arena got cancelled (the first big-name local concert in the last 16 years and 7 months). Judy Pinkerman, who had gotten good grades for the past three months just so her hard-working parents would buy her tickets, (even cheating on her Spanish test to do so) is especially enraged. She looks at her hand-made Nick Jonas sign, with extra glitter, thinking about all those hours spent wrestling with Elmer's glue, as the red mist descends upon her...

<3
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
January 20 2010 20:12 GMT
#184
BTW, the only way that this would be justified is if the "Virtual Studio" technology is so amazing that marines and zerglings pop out of the screen and engage in combat on my lap, while a medic gives me a sponge bath, lurkers burrow into my anus, Jaedong tries to multi around my scrotum and the Overmind is whispering "NOT ENOUGH VESPENE GAS" in my ear.
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 20 2010 20:13 GMT
#185
Can someone please translate the best korean netizen comments
RIP Aaliyah
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
January 20 2010 20:15 GMT
#186
I'm disappointed - actually I was already wary when I saw "virtual studio" on the TL calender, now I find out the full story.

The biggest disappointment for me is removing transparency. After adding metal detectors and such to show that the "sport" was not subject to manipulation - having something that's separated from the public is a major disappointment. While fans could "trust" MBC, it shouldn't come back to that. Every real sporting contest is broadcast live on some channel, and held in front of a live audience - especially finals!
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
January 20 2010 20:20 GMT
#187
Under the hypothesis that the final will indeed be rigged, which result would increase MBC's popularity more? Jaedong winning or Flash winning? :p
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
January 20 2010 20:22 GMT
#188
On January 21 2010 05:13 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Can someone please translate the best korean netizen comments



Netizen 1
First!

Netizen 2
First!!

Netizen 3
↑ lol loser

Netizen 4
↑ lol ban

Netizen 5
This is a real travesty. GOOD JOB MBC epic fail

Netizen 6
Let's boycot this shit

Netizen 7
I didn't think that they could actually fuck up the awesomeness that is Flash vs Jaedong, but Impossible is Nothing. Truly inspirational.

Netizen 8
Flash bunkering 3-0 gogogo

Netizen 9
Dammit me and my girlfriend were going to have sex along with the live broadcast. Now it won't feel the same. WAI MBC, MY DICK IS NOT HARD ANYMORE

Netizen 10
MrHoon, thisis your mother.Stop writin here and go to sleep.

Netizen 11
By itself, that single moment of recognition between that young white girl and that old black man is not enough. It is not enough to give health care to the sick, or jobs to the jobless, or education to our children.

But it is where we start. It is where our union grows stronger. And as so many generations have come to realize over the course of the two hundred and twenty-one years since a band of patriots signed that document right here in Philadelphia, that is where perfection begins.

returns upon momentous occasions.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
January 20 2010 20:24 GMT
#189
MY DICK IS NOT HARD
eNoq
Profile Joined June 2009
Netherlands502 Posts
January 20 2010 20:26 GMT
#190
On January 21 2010 05:24 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
MY DICK IS NOT HARD

Proburu
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
January 20 2010 20:28 GMT
#191
This is the stupidest shit MBC could've done ... part of the reason why people go watch live is to actually see the players ...
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Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
January 20 2010 20:30 GMT
#192
Just wat.
tirentu
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1257 Posts
January 20 2010 20:30 GMT
#193
Well, mine honestly is. But that's cause of porn, not MBC.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
January 20 2010 20:32 GMT
#194
.....MBC whowatwhenwhywhere why.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
January 20 2010 20:35 GMT
#195
On January 21 2010 04:03 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2010 03:36 HonestTea wrote:
I guess MBC doesn't even have enough money for a proper finals. How sad.

Exactly. Everyone is raging out that they didn't rent out a stadium and not charge an entry fee. What do you want them to do? They don't have money and they can't get money (we saw what happened when they charged for a final) so this is the only option.


They have the auditorium, right? There's got to be some sort of stage they can jury-rig. People would, I think, be upset but understanding if it's just a case of "sorry not enough money". What's irritating people is the bit about separating the players and the audience. Look, fans would go watch these guys play if they were playing on computers from 1992 set up at a single folding table put on a plywood stage with no decoration and displayed on a single home-style projector you can barely see. The "virtual" thing may spiffy it up, but is less live, less "real". It's the most guaranteed way to screw up the presentation there is.
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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
January 20 2010 20:36 GMT
#196
On January 21 2010 04:53 DonBotwin wrote:
kespa with the random terrible decision, that's a shocker *insert sarcasm tone here*

I'd love to see that play in north america. "Oh by the way the Super Bowl will be played in an isolated place and you can come watch it on monitors outside the stadium".

LOL have you seen texas stadium? You can't see the field for how big the jumbotron is.
dcberkeley
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada844 Posts
January 20 2010 20:39 GMT
#197
I laugh at all the people who said that the MSL did a better job at seeding (to bring us a Jaedong v. Flash finals) than OSL did.

Whether or not that is true, the seeding and this decision comes part and parcel. You approve of a company's decision to mess with official seeding rules and you'll find yourself facing a company that decidedly forgoes professionalism for the sake of profits and you end up with a farce of a competition.
Moktira is da bomb
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10828 Posts
January 20 2010 20:49 GMT
#198
best comment:

Netizen
HAHAHAHAAH 2002 NATE OSL RETURNS
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Mazer
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1086 Posts
January 20 2010 20:53 GMT
#199
All I can do is laugh at this. Best possible finals and they do something like this.
Alethios
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
New Zealand2765 Posts
January 20 2010 21:09 GMT
#200
Wtf is this?

Was about to say this MSL was shaping up to be one of the best ever... but this latest move is just unfathomable. Bah! Curses!
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
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