• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:13
CEST 19:13
KST 02:13
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers14Maestros of the Game 2 announced82026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid24
StarCraft 2
General
2026 GSL Tour plans announced Maestros of the Game 2 announced Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists MaNa leaves Team Liquid Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 522 Flip My Base The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss Mutation # 520 Moving Fees
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 Strategy, Pimpest Plays Discussions Pros React To: ASL S21, Ro.16 Group C Data needed
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro16 Group C [ASL21] Ro16 Group D [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro16 Group B
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo IV Dawn of War IV Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1445 users

KeSPA Dream League - Page 25

Forum Index > BW General
537 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 23 24 25 26 27 Next All
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
June 28 2010 21:22 GMT
#481
On June 29 2010 04:50 Subversive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2010 02:31 IdrA wrote:
On June 29 2010 02:14 Plexa wrote:
rofl stars lineup is ridiculous. Could possibly legitimately pass that off as a PL lineup (for regular season, at least)

do you even watch starcraft

Neo.G_Soulkey plays (and is good), (Z)Crazy-Hydra plays, (T)SaiR has played in the past, as has (P)DaezanG more recently. So he's right. Don't know what you're suggesting here.

SK is decent, rest is crap
think thats his suggestion
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
June 28 2010 21:50 GMT
#482
SoulKey is the only one that is PL-viable in that lineup. Crazy-Hydra, SaiR, and DaezanG may get noticed on what little name value they have left but their play is pretty much Dream League caliber regardless.

Players that saw time in PL this season from Woongjin's lineup:
(Z)Neo.G_Soulkey: 13-11
(Z)Crazy-Hydra: 2-4
(P)DaezanG: 1-0
(T)hOn_sin: 0-1

SaiR did even play in Proleague, despite past experience (mostly failures) - he and the guys above, spare SoulKey are all washed up or simply B-Teamers at the moment. I was under the impression that once a player had reached a certain # of PL appearances (surely 20 should be too many, especially with that record) that he was ineligible for Dream League play, but I guess not.
Moderator
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
June 28 2010 22:46 GMT
#483
On June 29 2010 06:50 p4NDemik wrote:+ Show Spoiler [nested quote] +

SoulKey is the only one that is PL-viable in that lineup. Crazy-Hydra, SaiR, and DaezanG may get noticed on what little name value they have left but their play is pretty much Dream League caliber regardless.

Players that saw time in PL this season from Woongjin's lineup:
(Z)Neo.G_Soulkey: 13-11
(Z)Crazy-Hydra: 2-4
(P)DaezanG: 1-0
(T)hOn_sin: 0-1

SaiR did even play in Proleague, despite past experience (mostly failures) - he and the guys above, spare SoulKey are all washed up or simply B-Teamers at the moment.
I was under the impression that once a player had reached a certain # of PL appearances (surely 20 should be too many, especially with that record) that he was ineligible for Dream League play, but I guess not.

Well I think I even saw Midas or someone as experienced playing Dreamleague earlier. Or was it even called Minor League at that time.
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
June 29 2010 12:18 GMT
#484
On June 29 2010 06:22 Itachii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2010 04:50 Subversive wrote:
On June 29 2010 02:31 IdrA wrote:
On June 29 2010 02:14 Plexa wrote:
rofl stars lineup is ridiculous. Could possibly legitimately pass that off as a PL lineup (for regular season, at least)

do you even watch starcraft

Neo.G_Soulkey plays (and is good), (Z)Crazy-Hydra plays, (T)SaiR has played in the past, as has (P)DaezanG more recently. So he's right. Don't know what you're suggesting here.

SK is decent, rest is crap
think thats his suggestion

Yeah thanks, I got the drift of what he was saying. Obviously I agree with Plexa, who, it should be noted said "could possibly.... pass" not "omg this is a PL lineup!"
#1 Great fan ~ // Khan // FlaSh // JangBi // EffOrt //
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
July 01 2010 08:19 GMT
#485
▶ Playoffs: 2nd/3rd Place Match
Woongjin Stars 4:1 SK Telecom T1
Set 1: (T)hOn_sin > (Z)n.Die_soO on Match Point
Set 2: (T)Center < (P)By.Sun on Polaris Rhapsody
Set 3: (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey > (T)Ssak on Grand Line SE
Set 4: (T)SaiR > (Z)ZerG[kaL] on Fortress
Set 5: (Z)Crazy-Hydra > (Z)Maestro on Judgment Day
Moderator
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
July 01 2010 08:25 GMT
#486
Woongjin vs CJ for the title next week.
Moderator
cunninglinguists
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States925 Posts
July 01 2010 08:46 GMT
#487
On July 01 2010 17:25 p4NDemik wrote:
Woongjin vs CJ for the title next week.

Gonna be a good match.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6184 Posts
July 01 2010 11:21 GMT
#488
On July 01 2010 17:46 cunninglinguists wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 17:25 p4NDemik wrote:
Woongjin vs CJ for the title next week.

Gonna be a good match.

Can we even watch it? Anyway to at least watch the final ?
n_n
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
July 05 2010 10:33 GMT
#489
▶ KeSPA Dream League 09-10 Grand Final
◆ CJ Entus vs Woongjin Stars
(P)Snow <Fighting Spirit> (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey
(T)BByong <Grand Line SE> (Z)Crazy-Hydra
(Z)Orion <Polaris Rhapsody> (T)hOn_sin
(T)Rush <Match Point> (P)DaezanG
(P)Nbs <Fortress> (T)SaiR
(Z)MIsO <Judgment Day> (T)Center
Ace: Fighting Spirit

July 8, 13.00 KST, Yongsan
Tuke
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland1666 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-05 11:09:26
July 05 2010 11:08 GMT
#490
Snow is back to dream league
gogo CJ
TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #42
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-05 11:32:09
July 05 2010 11:30 GMT
#491
Predictions

(P)Snow <Fighting Spirit> (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey
(T)BByong<Grand Line SE> (Z)Crazy-Hydra
(Z)Orion <Polaris Rhapsody> (T)hOn_sin
(T)Rush <Match Point> (P)DaezanG

Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
McDonalds
Profile Joined March 2010
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
July 05 2010 12:45 GMT
#492
I haven't seen many of these players play but if you go by edges in statistics, some of them slight, then

(P)Snow < (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey
(T)BByong > (Z)Crazy-Hydra
(Z)Orion > (T)hOn_sin
(T)Rush < (P)DaezanG
(P)Nbs > (T)SaiR
(Z)MIsO < (T)Center
High five :---)
McDonalds
Profile Joined March 2010
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-05 12:50:50
July 05 2010 12:48 GMT
#493
That takes into account the map statistics as well, by the way. In each matchup the map gives a statistical edge to the player who already had a statistical edge (except Fortress, but it's only 3-4).
High five :---)
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
July 05 2010 12:49 GMT
#494
snow's gonna get pulled down by his mediocre pvz =/
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
July 05 2010 13:30 GMT
#495
CJ taking back Snow? Really? Oh well, at least he's not playing Center or any other Terran
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Caos2
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1728 Posts
July 06 2010 18:17 GMT
#496
Heh, CJ REALLY wants the Dream League title, sending Snow.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
July 07 2010 08:47 GMT
#497
Good luck CJ!
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7863 Posts
July 07 2010 08:50 GMT
#498
Looking at those matchups I'm pretty sure Stars is going to 4-0 CJ
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
July 07 2010 19:03 GMT
#499
Snow is 3-0 vs Soulkey...
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
July 07 2010 19:36 GMT
#500
SNOW BONJWA
CJ HWAITING
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Prev 1 23 24 25 26 27 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
15:00
King of the Hill #245
SteadfastSC137
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Reynor 645
SteadfastSC 137
UpATreeSC 119
BRAT_OK 17
StarCraft: Brood War
EffOrt 842
Mini 577
Stork 383
ZerO 254
Soma 248
firebathero 222
Leta 135
Soulkey 131
JYJ 64
Hyun 57
[ Show more ]
Sharp 55
Aegong 38
ProTech25
Sexy 23
HiyA 23
Barracks 22
Rock 21
Terrorterran 14
IntoTheRainbow 12
GoRush 9
Shine 8
Dota 2
Gorgc6053
qojqva2059
Counter-Strike
fl0m2000
byalli873
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King103
Heroes of the Storm
MindelVK8
Other Games
Grubby2635
FrodaN1434
B2W.Neo693
ceh9375
ArmadaUGS262
KnowMe162
QueenE134
XaKoH 120
crisheroes106
RotterdaM86
Trikslyr61
ZerO(Twitch)23
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream10144
Other Games
BasetradeTV284
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 45
• LUISG 25
• Kozan
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki17
• HerbMon 12
• Michael_bg 4
• FirePhoenix4
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV384
Counter-Strike
• Nemesis2077
Other Games
• Shiphtur222
• imaqtpie19
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
6h 47m
Escore
16h 47m
RSL Revival
23h 47m
Replay Cast
1d 6h
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 17h
Universe Titan Cup
1d 17h
Rogue vs Percival
Ladder Legends
1d 21h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 21h
BSL
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
2 days
Ladder Legends
2 days
BSL
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Soma vs hero
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Leta vs YSC
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-22
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.