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SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
November 05 2009 20:12 GMT
#121
SKT1 vs. KT, it's looking better for SKT.

I don't really see HoeJJa winning over Fantasy, and Luxury's PvZ is garbage, and he's playing Bisu. Although I can see this going to ace, and seeing a FlaSh vs. Bisu.
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darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
November 05 2009 20:35 GMT
#122
On November 06 2009 05:12 SilverskY wrote:
SKT1 vs. KT, it's looking better for SKT.

I don't really see HoeJJa winning over Fantasy, and Luxury's PvZ is garbage, and he's playing Bisu. Although I can see this going to ace, and seeing a FlaSh vs. Bisu.


I think they gotta send Fantasy or maybe even Canata (though this is suicide) on Moon Glaive.

Unless Bisu REALLY wants it. I definitely think Bisu is their best chance.
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
November 05 2009 21:03 GMT
#123
Yeah I think SKT vs KT is going to ace, after SKT gives away a 2-0 lead. I really like Hoejja but I don't see him beating Fantasy and I doubt Lux, with his recent erratic ZvP form, can beat Bisu. Flash however appears in the best form of his career, unlike Best. Hyuk vs Violet could go either way but I'm going to give it to Violet anyway out of pure KT fanboyism.

And I think anything other than Bisu in ace is going to be suicide for SKT. Fantasy could win but Flash has a 13 game win streak and a 71% win rate in TvT. I doubt anyone would take that chance.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 05 2009 21:16 GMT
#124
On November 06 2009 06:03 Ikonn wrote:
Yeah I think SKT vs KT is going to ace, after SKT gives away a 2-0 lead. I really like Hoejja but I don't see him beating Fantasy and I doubt Lux, with his recent erratic ZvP form, can beat Bisu. Flash however appears in the best form of his career, unlike Best. Hyuk vs Violet could go either way but I'm going to give it to Violet anyway out of pure KT fanboyism.

And I think anything other than Bisu in ace is going to be suicide for SKT. Fantasy could win but Flash has a 13 game win streak and a 71% win rate in TvT. I doubt anyone would take that chance.

I wouldn't be surprised if both teams sent out zergs to snipe. It's the theme of the season.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 05 2009 21:19 GMT
#125
On November 06 2009 04:31 motbob wrote:
Oh gosh

all 4 eSTRO players in their weakest race matchups against ACE

I have ruby on my fpl and I still don't think he'll be able to beat Really. Really's tvt has gotten extremely good recently. Hyvaa vs Casy should obviously be for Hyvaa, and Flying vs Gorush probably obviously for Flying. Anytime could probably beat action though.
SplashbackFerret
Profile Joined October 2009
New Zealand846 Posts
November 05 2009 21:39 GMT
#126
On November 06 2009 06:19 Nevuk wrote:
... Hyvaa vs Casy should obviously be for Hyvaa...


BLASPHEMY!
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mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
November 05 2009 22:11 GMT
#127
On November 06 2009 06:19 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2009 04:31 motbob wrote:
Oh gosh

all 4 eSTRO players in their weakest race matchups against ACE

I have ruby on my fpl and I still don't think he'll be able to beat Really. Really's tvt has gotten extremely good recently. Hyvaa vs Casy should obviously be for Hyvaa, and Flying vs Gorush probably obviously for Flying. Anytime could probably beat action though.


Ruby had close game with Sea, and beat Skyhigh,Hwasin and Hiya...only person really has beaten was Sea, whom he beat like the last 2 times they plaed as well. I dont see any reason to think Ruby cant beat Really, If anything Id have Ruby as the favorite. Hyvaa vs Casy...isnt that obvious either both are inconsistent, but Moon Glaive seems ok for bio, so Id give the nod to Casy, but really its a toss up. I have no clue how Flying is obviously favored over Gorush, as Gorush is still pretty good and alot more experienced......and playing on Heartbreak Ridge. Gorush is a strong favorite here. Anytime is probably favored vs Action, but anytimes pvz isnt the most solid thing, however he usually beats mediocre zergs.

I think ACE is clearly favored all things considered. its not overwhelming or anything, but I dont see how one could think estro is favored from the lineup.
cSf.Loser
Profile Joined December 2005
Czech Republic115 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-05 22:22:39
November 05 2009 22:22 GMT
#128
SKT vs KT will be 2:0 for SKT then Flash and Violet will win and then "epic" ace canata vs forgg ... you will see... )
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
November 05 2009 22:24 GMT
#129
Flash has nothing else to do right now - I will be both stunned and very annoyed if he doesn't go out for ace on a good T map.

The question is what SKT1 is going to do. If they are confident that Flash will go out (which they should be) then they should send Bisu (who also has nothing else to do, unless he's practicing for WCG which he isn't). The issue teams have with sending P on Moon Glavie is ZvP, I think.
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
November 05 2009 23:03 GMT
#130
KT is going to win 3-1 with luxury losing.
(T)fantasy's TvZ is completely overrated. He was good when he could use his mech builds, but his medic marine control is not very good. This season, we've seen a move away from mech play. (Z)HoeJJa has a good chance of beating (T)fantasy.
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
November 05 2009 23:14 GMT
#131
OK, I'm with the people who say fantasy's TvZ isn't great, but...it's not like HoeJJa's ZvT is that good.
Zero fighting.
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
November 05 2009 23:44 GMT
#132
It's too bad Hyuk won't get to play once T1 wins 3-0.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
ccou
Profile Joined December 2008
United States681 Posts
November 06 2009 00:08 GMT
#133
I got the bad feeling that if KT/SKT goes to ace, we'll hear some Foo Fighters music.
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Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
November 06 2009 00:50 GMT
#134
Anyone who thinks (T)fantasy will get sent out for ace is crazy, he can't beat (T)Flash in TvT in his current form. We knew it before already, and we know it even more now that Flash swept Fantasy 2-0 in IEF in games which, from what I hear, weren't even close.

(P)Bisu on the other hand has about a 50-50 or so chance of taking him down regardless of the map.

Fantasy is going to stomp (Z)HoeJJa, though. He'll run half a control group of vultures into HoeJJa's undefended drone line and I'll cry.
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
November 06 2009 00:57 GMT
#135
I think you guys are too sure that Flash will be KT's ace choice. Keep in mind that the KT coaches have a history of godawful 5set picks.
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dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-06 01:10:46
November 06 2009 01:10 GMT
#136
On November 06 2009 09:57 JWD wrote:
I think you guys are too sure that Flash will be KT's ace choice. Keep in mind that the KT coaches have a history of godawful 5set picks.


Unless KT coaches are blind, and a 10-0 record means nothing to them, I seriously doubt non-Flash choices.

The chance that Fantasy get sent out to snipe Flash is incredibly small. Flash has been practicing TvT nonstop for the past month and his record is unbeatable. Bisu is the most likely candidate. Of course, I am just stating the obvious.

The critical set will likely to be Hyuk v.s. Violet. Fantasy, Flash and Bisu are overwhelming favorites in their respective matchups. So whether we get to see an ACE match will rest on the shoulders of Hyuk and Violet.

Umm...
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-06 01:15:45
November 06 2009 01:14 GMT
#137
kt vs skt will be a must watch
BW is back
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
November 06 2009 02:19 GMT
#138
On November 06 2009 08:03 OreoBoi wrote:
KT is going to win 3-1 with luxury losing.
(T)fantasy's TvZ is completely overrated. He was good when he could use his mech builds, but his medic marine control is not very good. This season, we've seen a move away from mech play. (Z)HoeJJa has a good chance of beating (T)fantasy.

Fantasy might be overrated when people compare him to the like of jaedong or flash. But Hoejja? Come on ...
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-06 02:34:39
November 06 2009 02:33 GMT
#139
On November 06 2009 09:50 Hinanawi wrote:
Anyone who thinks (T)fantasy will get sent out for ace is crazy, he can't beat (T)Flash in TvT in his current form. We knew it before already, and we know it even more now that Flash swept Fantasy 2-0 in IEF in games which, from what I hear, weren't even close.

(P)Bisu on the other hand has about a 50-50 or so chance of taking him down regardless of the map.

Fantasy is going to stomp (Z)HoeJJa, though. He'll run half a control group of vultures into HoeJJa's undefended drone line and I'll cry.



You're kidding right? Flash in his current form (this is like back when he won Bacchus type insanity) is a favorite against Bisu, especially on a Terran favored map. If you think otherwise you are just a bit on the crazy side.

Fantasy never really stood a decent chance against Flash in a TvT even when Fantasy was in top form and Flash wasn't.... and Canata would just get curb stomped. Bisu is their best shot but I don't think he has a 50-50
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MrHickoryHam54
Profile Joined January 2009
United States208 Posts
November 06 2009 11:58 GMT
#140
On November 06 2009 11:19 nayumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2009 08:03 OreoBoi wrote:
KT is going to win 3-1 with luxury losing.
(T)fantasy's TvZ is completely overrated. He was good when he could use his mech builds, but his medic marine control is not very good. This season, we've seen a move away from mech play. (Z)HoeJJa has a good chance of beating (T)fantasy.

Fantasy might be overrated when people compare him to the like of jaedong or flash. But Hoejja? Come on ...


u do have a point. hoejja really isnt good at all.

and fantasy used to be at the level of JD and flash, its just that hes a lot worse now lol

but regardless, SKT vs KT is going to be a mindbusting event and everyone should watch it!
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