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lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
October 22 2009 11:37 GMT
#21
god damn i hate it when people shorten links using that bit.ly shit.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8091 Posts
October 22 2009 11:41 GMT
#22
On October 22 2009 18:37 Lumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2009 18:32 Itachii wrote:
Is sc4all safe now?


It's fine, it always was - just some lame buggy issue that was there for a bit

clueless much?
YAY RETJE
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
gdcrimson
Profile Joined January 2009
New Zealand148 Posts
October 22 2009 11:47 GMT
#23
Cool stuff, thanks for the vid and good luck to Ret!
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 22 2009 11:58 GMT
#24
Finally! My lust for Ret news is however not satisfied, I need moar. :D
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
October 22 2009 12:00 GMT
#25
I love you ret.

GL IN KOREA !!!!!!!!!
Ohjay
Profile Joined October 2009
Germany83 Posts
October 22 2009 12:16 GMT
#26
Great vid!!! Thanks so much, I really enjoyed it!

A weekly video blog would be so great.

GOGO Ret!!!
Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-22 12:24:20
October 22 2009 12:21 GMT
#27
artosis/tasteless is sc awesomeness, non stop quality content & sc passion <3
eagerly awaiting for more ret games : ) gl ret!
"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
October 22 2009 12:29 GMT
#28
Thank you so much for your coverage, if I had the money I would go down to korea and do it myself but I don't, so It's great that you never fail to deliver!
Sentient66
Profile Joined July 2009
United States651 Posts
October 22 2009 12:29 GMT
#29
Good luck Ret!
seNsiX.421
ftb
Profile Joined October 2009
49 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-22 12:48:51
October 22 2009 12:42 GMT
#30
On October 22 2009 20:23 XsebT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2009 20:02 integral wrote:
Fucking awesome. The estro coach was clearly taken aback at how old ret is, I hope that doesn't become an issue. Best of luck to ret, thanks for posting the video!

Like life ends when you hit 20 X_X.
Ret is young both physically and metally. I do not think he age is affecting his abilities. What say you, grandpa toss?


Well basicly it is right that after like 20 or so your reaction time and speed in general starts to get worse. That's why White-Ra being somewhat around thirty only has around 200 APM usually.
ZvZ for example is a matchup where any tactics or strategies are rarely seen, so the entire game is reduced to actually speed, reaction and overall unit control. So being younger and faster gives you a big advantage.

Anyway: Go ret!
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
October 22 2009 12:43 GMT
#31
What did the coach/players think of rets play?
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
October 22 2009 12:50 GMT
#32
On October 22 2009 21:42 ftb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2009 20:23 XsebT wrote:
On October 22 2009 20:02 integral wrote:
Fucking awesome. The estro coach was clearly taken aback at how old ret is, I hope that doesn't become an issue. Best of luck to ret, thanks for posting the video!

Like life ends when you hit 20 X_X.
Ret is young both physically and metally. I do not think he age is affecting his abilities. What say you, grandpa toss?


Well basicly it is right that after like 20 or so your reaction time and speed in general starts to get worse. That's why White-Ra being somewhat around thirty only has around 200 APM usually.
ZvZ for example is a matchup where any tactics or strategies are rarely seen, so the entire game is reduced to actually speed, reaction and overall unit control. So being younger and faster gives you a big advantage.

Anyway: Go ret!

you dont actually get slower as you get older when you're in your 20s. ra's a coincidence, and theres not that many fast foreign protosses, or fast foreigners in general, anyway.

the korean's attitude towards age is more based on the manditory military service + the fact that older players dont really want to focus solely on gaming as much as younger kids will. if someone is in their mid 20s but doesnt have other obligations and is willing to practice all day theres nothing wrong with it.
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bioboyAT
Profile Joined July 2004
Austria1763 Posts
October 22 2009 12:51 GMT
#33
On October 22 2009 21:42 ftb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2009 20:23 XsebT wrote:
On October 22 2009 20:02 integral wrote:
Fucking awesome. The estro coach was clearly taken aback at how old ret is, I hope that doesn't become an issue. Best of luck to ret, thanks for posting the video!

Like life ends when you hit 20 X_X.
Ret is young both physically and metally. I do not think he age is affecting his abilities. What say you, grandpa toss?


Well basicly it is right that after like 20 or so your reaction time and speed in general starts to get worse. That's why White-Ra being somewhat around thirty only has around 200 APM usually.
ZvZ for example is a matchup where any tactics or strategies are rarely seen, so the entire game is reduced to actually speed, reaction and overall unit control. So being younger and faster gives you a big advantage.

Anyway: Go ret!


white-ra is just lazy that's all. boxer and especially nada are stll fast though they are not that young anymore either
Milchmann | DeadVessel: Milchmann pwns. I fail.
QuakerOats
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1024 Posts
October 22 2009 12:53 GMT
#34
Yeah I never understood why people say that. People think your physical peak is when you're 20? There are thousands of athletes who would disagree with that.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
October 22 2009 12:56 GMT
#35
On October 22 2009 21:42 ftb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2009 20:23 XsebT wrote:
On October 22 2009 20:02 integral wrote:
Fucking awesome. The estro coach was clearly taken aback at how old ret is, I hope that doesn't become an issue. Best of luck to ret, thanks for posting the video!

Like life ends when you hit 20 X_X.
Ret is young both physically and metally. I do not think he age is affecting his abilities. What say you, grandpa toss?


Well basicly it is right that after like 20 or so your reaction time and speed in general starts to get worse. That's why White-Ra being somewhat around thirty only has around 200 APM usually.
ZvZ for example is a matchup where any tactics or strategies are rarely seen, so the entire game is reduced to actually speed, reaction and overall unit control. So being younger and faster gives you a big advantage.

Anyway: Go ret!

It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. Looking at other physical activities (piano) and mental activities (chess). It is evident that a human being could be in peak BW condition well past age 20. Since Koreans start young and their training method is highly susceptible to burning out, there is a trend of BW players doing worse in their early to mid 20's.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
October 22 2009 12:57 GMT
#36
On October 22 2009 21:50 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2009 21:42 ftb wrote:
On October 22 2009 20:23 XsebT wrote:
On October 22 2009 20:02 integral wrote:
Fucking awesome. The estro coach was clearly taken aback at how old ret is, I hope that doesn't become an issue. Best of luck to ret, thanks for posting the video!

Like life ends when you hit 20 X_X.
Ret is young both physically and metally. I do not think he age is affecting his abilities. What say you, grandpa toss?


Well basicly it is right that after like 20 or so your reaction time and speed in general starts to get worse. That's why White-Ra being somewhat around thirty only has around 200 APM usually.
ZvZ for example is a matchup where any tactics or strategies are rarely seen, so the entire game is reduced to actually speed, reaction and overall unit control. So being younger and faster gives you a big advantage.

Anyway: Go ret!

you dont actually get slower as you get older when you're in your 20s. ra's a coincidence, and theres not that many fast foreign protosses, or fast foreigners in general, anyway.

the korean's attitude towards age is more based on the manditory military service + the fact that older players dont really want to focus solely on gaming as much as younger kids will. if someone is in their mid 20s but doesnt have other obligations and is willing to practice all day theres nothing wrong with it.


agree... i also think the older koreans grew up with sc as a game where apm asnt that important... and it keeps getting more important (and the apm usage gets more efficient) with every new generation of pros... and when you are used to playing one way its just damn hard to change it... so i think it has something to do with age, but not limited response times or reflexes or anything liek that... just that its too hard to still change the way you play after you've done that for years (which is also because of the reasons idra mentioned)...

its me
JonsaBoy
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Denmark457 Posts
October 22 2009 13:03 GMT
#37
tasteless at 9 min 10 sec haha wat. great vid
TLMS
Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
October 22 2009 13:10 GMT
#38
lol like 5 seconds before tasteless said "wow ret is so good" i was thinkin the exact same thing is.
hes really good lol
Entusman #51
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
October 22 2009 13:16 GMT
#39
Good luck Ret !!!
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-22 13:19:22
October 22 2009 13:18 GMT
#40
Btw i thought that Ret was a fairly large guy but Max is HUGE o,o
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
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