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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 09 2009 21:28 GMT
#101
On October 09 2009 17:30 konadora wrote:
I couldn't think of other players (especially from ACE) that are cheap and are bound to fail.

5 point players who don't play in any first week games?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
October 09 2009 22:17 GMT
#102
Flash-y

Main Team
1 (T)TurN
2 (T)BaBy
8 (Z)Calm
10 (T)Flash (captain)
2 (Z)July
2 (P)PerfectMan
5 KTF MagicNs

Anti Team
6 (P)BackHo
4 (T)Justin
3 (Z)Thezerg

I'm not expecting too much, just picked my favorite players to give me more reason to cheer for them this season. Also, either (T)TurN or (T)BaBy will be the next bonjwa so there's that too.

But basically I'm just hoping that Flash and Calm will get me to a respectable score.
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
October 09 2009 23:16 GMT
#103
On October 10 2009 02:31 KP_CollectoR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2009 02:16 Musoeun wrote:
Still fiddling with my team - I can't decide who's more likely to win this week, sAviOr or HiyA. On paper HiyA ought to destroy Shuttle and maybe give Leta a run for his money, while Kal should destroy sAviOr and even HoGiL might beat him. But HiyA's kind of sucked recently, and sAviOr's still got the ability to steal games from anyone, slumping ex-bonjwa or no...


I agree that they both look like underdogs week one. Besides, it's a false dilemma: there are other players you can pick up for 2 points, OR you can make some adjustments and get a higher point value slot. But who knows? Maybe HiyA will bring back his Winners League TvP performance?


2-pointers: let's look at the decent/good ones, from worst to best imo:

The questionable:
Xellos, YellOw - could pay off big, could flop. Oh, and neither is playing this week.
Boxer, iloveoov - useful for picking up SKT points, but I'm not sold on that idea.
BaBy, FireFist, IrOn, Miracle - no games this week, on teams with too many mediocres in their respective races. Yes, I just called BaBy mediocre.

The reasonable:
HyuN - bad, but even he should beat Reach right now - but that's a one-week-wonder kind of deal, I'd have to trade him.
HoeJJa - tempting, should beat GuemChi imho, but would be trade-bait after that.
GoRush - He should beat Jaehoon I think, but then maybe not.
Piano - but he will pull the upset of the week if he beats Bisu, even though I'm a huge fan.
Stats - really brilliant play recently, but has to play Zero to start out.
Pure - might be good, should be WeMade's main P, but he could be out of lineups next week, given WeMade.

In contrast sAviOr's now CJ's second Zerg and likely to see a lot of games (although maybe not that many wins, but is Orion/Devil any better?), while HiyA is still OZ's best Terran (pathetic as that looks right now).
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 09 2009 23:20 GMT
#104
On October 10 2009 00:50 pripple wrote:
Does Iris win Frozean or the other way around? I'd like to know.. i mean yes on paper Iris should win it 99% but then again he just lost to Major in prelims whom Frozean then won..

also this threeway with JD & Effort & Yarnc is hard to solve, Yarnc just might win them both :|

i can't stand this anymore, i've been thinking so hard my head hurts, im gonna hit submit just about now and try to avoid changing it anymore ;p

Off-line Frozean would probably stomp Iris, it really depends on how if the team transfer has boosted his confidence when it comes to live games. A very unpredictable player, especially after having had so many things go on this week - there's no real reason to risk going with Iris this first week... (this was why I thought Ruby was a better 1 pointer, at least this week, as his first game is almost guaranteed to be a win... really, Mbc? Shark?).
Kullosus
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada18 Posts
October 10 2009 01:25 GMT
#105
Baby and JangBi are bargains! only 2 each?!

And my anti-team secret weapons is Sea. Ya he's good but he's on a mediocre team. He cracked under the pressure in the individual leagues last year cause he was focusing so much on the ProLeague. I'm hoping he gets selfish this year and cracks in the proleague instead!
Theres the Panda Bear Guy!
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
October 10 2009 01:31 GMT
#106
Should I choose Calm+SKT or Flash/JD + STX/CJ/OZ?
Jaedong
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
October 10 2009 02:13 GMT
#107
Fantasy or Light? Or am I being crazy for even thinking about this?
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
October 10 2009 02:17 GMT
#108
On October 10 2009 11:13 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Fantasy or Light? Or am I being crazy for even thinking about this?

Fantasy ez
POGGERS
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 10 2009 02:18 GMT
#109
the BLYs

Main Team
7 (Z)EffOrt
2 (T)HiyA
3 (Z)HoGiL
9 (T)Leta (captain)
1 (P)Movie
2 (P)Pure
6 STX Soul

Anti Team
5 (Z)815
3 (P)Anytime
5 (P)free
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
October 10 2009 02:48 GMT
#110
Modified,,,

Dream

Main Team
3 (T)Canata
10 (Z)Jaedong (captain)
2 (P)JangBi
1 (P)Movie
3 (Z)YellOw[ArnC]
3 (Z)ZerO
8 SK Telecom T1

Anti Team
5 (Z)815
5 (T)Lomo
3 (P)SoO
:]
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
October 10 2009 03:00 GMT
#111
On October 10 2009 08:16 Musoeun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2009 02:31 KP_CollectoR wrote:
On October 10 2009 02:16 Musoeun wrote:
Still fiddling with my team - I can't decide who's more likely to win this week, sAviOr or HiyA. On paper HiyA ought to destroy Shuttle and maybe give Leta a run for his money, while Kal should destroy sAviOr and even HoGiL might beat him. But HiyA's kind of sucked recently, and sAviOr's still got the ability to steal games from anyone, slumping ex-bonjwa or no...


I agree that they both look like underdogs week one. Besides, it's a false dilemma: there are other players you can pick up for 2 points, OR you can make some adjustments and get a higher point value slot. But who knows? Maybe HiyA will bring back his Winners League TvP performance?


2-pointers: let's look at the decent/good ones, from worst to best imo:

The questionable:
Xellos, YellOw - could pay off big, could flop. Oh, and neither is playing this week.
Boxer, iloveoov - useful for picking up SKT points, but I'm not sold on that idea.
BaBy, FireFist, IrOn, Miracle - no games this week, on teams with too many mediocres in their respective races. Yes, I just called BaBy mediocre.

The reasonable:
HyuN - bad, but even he should beat Reach right now - but that's a one-week-wonder kind of deal, I'd have to trade him.
HoeJJa - tempting, should beat GuemChi imho, but would be trade-bait after that.
GoRush - He should beat Jaehoon I think, but then maybe not.
Piano - but he will pull the upset of the week if he beats Bisu, even though I'm a huge fan.
Stats - really brilliant play recently, but has to play Zero to start out.
Pure - might be good, should be WeMade's main P, but he could be out of lineups next week, given WeMade.

In contrast sAviOr's now CJ's second Zerg and likely to see a lot of games (although maybe not that many wins, but is Orion/Devil any better?), while HiyA is still OZ's best Terran (pathetic as that looks right now).

savior also has to compete with hydra. To focus on players other than just those playing this week (if the player you pick loses, and the player you wanted to trade for has a team win, guess what, you might not be able to obtain that player again)

GosI[Flying] is interesting, but risky, same with mong.

What about jangbi? Better pickup for 2 points than pure in pretty much every way I would say, since hes potential ace as well and might end his slump.

go.go is an amazing pickup, and if it wasnt for him not playing at all this week, would be on my team. Type-b and s2 have obvious merits as well.
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-10 03:15:33
October 10 2009 03:06 GMT
#112
On October 10 2009 11:13 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Fantasy or Light? Or am I being crazy for even thinking about this?


very crazy. Not only will fantasy almost certainly get more wins, his team will get more wins as well. The slightly increased ace match chance of light doesnt make up for this.

On October 09 2009 17:30 konadora wrote:
I couldn't think of other players (especially from ACE) that are cheap and are bound to fail.


Sangho will be sent out regularly. Considering you only need a 1 pointer player bound to fail, the choices are nearly endless.

(T)Favian 1 - khan will probably suck with maps/slump, and this guy wont play anyways
(P)yoOn 1 - see above. Added benefit of protoss on a strong protoss team on weak protoss maps
(P)Young 1 - apparently retired, likely to be removed.
(Z)herO[jOin] 1
(P)mingu 1
(T)tiny 1

suny might be worth the risk as well (especially given the terran depth on estro, and their lack of team wins)
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Zallatik
Profile Joined April 2008
United States64 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-10 03:40:52
October 10 2009 03:29 GMT
#113
On October 10 2009 10:31 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Should I choose Calm+SKT or Flash/JD + STX/CJ/OZ?


I would take Flash + STX. I'm predicting Flash as the #1 scorer in fantasy points because I think he'll see lots of ace games and win them. Jaedong could be substituted if you think his supporting cast can get him enough team wins. Calm is a great talent who won't see enough ace games as I predict it, because his team will often win in less than 5 games, and because he has at least one ace-worthy teammate. So I'm feeling good about STX as a team. CJ can be played if you're confident about Movie. I'm a bit down on OZ right now for 6 points.

On October 10 2009 11:13 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Fantasy or Light? Or am I being crazy for even thinking about this?


Light will probably get more ace games because of Bisu, but this is one case where the difference in both individual and team wins will make up for it. I say fantasy all the way.

On October 10 2009 12:06 fusionsdf wrote:
Sangho will be sent out regularly. Considering you only need a 1 pointer player bound to fail, the choices are nearly endless.

(T)Favian 1 - khan will probably suck with maps/slump, and this guy wont play anyways
(P)yoOn 1 - see above. Added benefit of protoss on a strong protoss team on weak protoss maps
(P)Young 1 - apparently retired, likely to be removed.
(Z)herO[jOin] 1
(P)mingu 1
(T)tiny 1


I agree, SangHo will be strong this season. I would not anti-team him. (I don't even think he's the best anti-teamer at the 5 point level). If all you need is a 1-pointer for anti, I like tiny there.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-10 03:39:54
October 10 2009 03:31 GMT
#114
Light. Light has been playing much more solidly in PL outside of the PL finals, going 8-2 in R5.
Also, a spoiler + Show Spoiler +
Fantasy's play in the MST was terrible. Like, really, really bad- based on that one night I honestly think he might be a decent anti-team choice, if you're ballsy.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
October 10 2009 03:56 GMT
#115
+ Show Spoiler +
eh, he wasnt that horrible. His decision making was very suspect, but his macro was still very good
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
October 10 2009 04:10 GMT
#116
First time taking a crack at this. Made a 2 S-class player + assorted poor players team, with STX. Originally I had calm/pusan instead of bisu/daezang, hope that doesn't turn out better! Wonder if Backho will bite me in the ass.

Main Team
9 (P)Bisu
0 (P)DaezanG
1 (T)FrOzean
3 (Z)Hyuk
1 (T)Iris
10 (Z)Jaedong (captain)
6 STX Soul

Anti Team
3 (P)Anytime
6 (P)BackHo
4 (T)UpMagiC

How exactly are trade values calculated? Some sort of weighted average between current results and original price?
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51613 Posts
October 10 2009 04:16 GMT
#117
제티현 사랑해요

Main Team
0 (P)DaezanG
10 (T)Flash
1 (T)Iris
10 (Z)Jaedong (captain)
2 (P)JangBi
3 (Z)YellOw[ArnC]
4 Woongjin Stars

Anti Team
6 (P)BackHo
3 (P)Jaehoon
4 (T)Justin

gonna win.
Commentator
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
October 10 2009 04:28 GMT
#118
Main Team
7 (Z)EffOrt
7 (T)fantasy
1 (T)Iris
10 (Z)Jaedong (captain)
1 (P)Movie
2 (Z)sAviOr
2 WeMade FOX

Anti Team
3 (T)GanZi
7 (P)Kal
3 (P)SoO
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
October 10 2009 04:45 GMT
#119
6 points already! Yay Bisu/Hyuk!
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-10 05:14:39
October 10 2009 05:13 GMT
#120
Cheaaaa starting off the round with a perfect 11 point opening day >
edit: actually I guess if kt goes on to win then I'll no longer be perfect cause 815 will give me -1
brood war for life, brood war forever
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