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roronoe
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada1527 Posts
October 30 2009 06:31 GMT
#681
Am I crazy for wanting to trade Ruby for hiya.
Im expecting hiya to beat ruby this week,
but it seems unlikely ill be able to get ruby back afterwards,
and I do want him back afterwards, since he`s having a lot of lineup and ace appearances.
The Purgatory of Endless Depths
Syntax Lost
Profile Joined May 2009
Finland86 Posts
October 30 2009 06:44 GMT
#682
So hard to decide on whether to take Free or Zero this week. Free has two definite appearances while Zero has one set four. Zero faces two weak zergs, while Free faces FBH (who is also on my team, but this is almost certain for FBH to lose) and a weak Protoss. Tough choice...
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
October 30 2009 07:35 GMT
#683
On October 30 2009 15:44 Syntax Lost wrote:
So hard to decide on whether to take Free or Zero this week. Free has two definite appearances while Zero has one set four. Zero faces two weak zergs, while Free faces FBH (who is also on my team, but this is almost certain for FBH to lose) and a weak Protoss. Tough choice...

I got both.
Syntax Lost
Profile Joined May 2009
Finland86 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-30 08:26:26
October 30 2009 07:46 GMT
#684
On October 30 2009 16:35 lazz wrote:
I got both.


Cute, but only four out of five of my players are actually playing this week and the only way for me to trade for both would be trade away either Calm or Bisu. There are other possible trades for me to make that don't require such a sacrifice, so it's either one or the other.

Edit: Hmmm... it looks like the week 4 post has the lineups wrong, anyhow. According to Kespa, Zero is set to play Light.

So the question is which has a better expected result:

FBH over Free
Zero over Light
Zero over oDin
Zero plays Ace vs MBC on HBR
Zero plays Ace vs Khan on Tornado

or

Free over Han
Free plays Ace vs MBC on HBR
Free plays Ace vs Khan on Tornado
+ 4 guaranteed points.

Granted FBH is unlikely to beat free. Zero vs Light is going to be close. Zero vs oDin looks even with Free vs Han. So does Zero over Light plus FBH over Free have a better expected result than four?

Aces are always a tossup. Woongjin have been favouring Zero but I would think that Free (or even Guemchi) would make a better choice vs MBC even though the Stars prefer to play Zero on HBR. Zero though is the better choice vs Khan.

Looking ahead, week 5 gives Match Point (Free's map) in both Woongjin matches, albeit once in the ace match. Tornado and HBR (Zero's maps) also appear but both in set 4.

Need more time to contemplate...

lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
October 30 2009 08:56 GMT
#685
it's a gamble man. I think zero has slightly less chance of taking his games, but a higher chance appearing in ace.
Syntax Lost
Profile Joined May 2009
Finland86 Posts
October 30 2009 09:08 GMT
#686
On October 30 2009 17:56 lazz wrote:
it's a gamble man. I think zero has slightly less chance of taking his games, but a higher chance appearing in ace.


All choices are a gamble. There is no way for us to know the outcomes beforehand, all we can do is hedge our bets based on likelihood. The question is having an accurate estimate of the likelihoods so we make accurate decisions.
alfrex
Profile Joined July 2006
Algeria57 Posts
October 30 2009 09:09 GMT
#687
there's only one situation in which it would suck to have jaedong on your team and 815 on your anti team...which is this week.
Rafa heads down the tunnel with a trophy and a stuffed wombat and the last stragglers head out of RLA.
trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
October 30 2009 16:49 GMT
#688
thx for the answer admin.

And yeah i think the calm --> sea trade is worth it ^^
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
October 30 2009 17:27 GMT
#689
So uhh what are other big-team owners (SKT/KT/etc basically the ones that aren't playing this week) doing with their teams? A trade for CJ seems viable considering CJ has easier teams left to play against, but CJ's inconsistent lineups (wtf Hydra and Snow against SKT) and possibility of a loss to Fox in their first game this week are really preventing me from clicking the trade button :x
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
October 30 2009 17:35 GMT
#690
As an owner of KT, I'm not trading my team because I might not be able to trade back to KT. I'm counting on (Z)Jaedong, (T)Iris, and (Z)Shine to get me points this week.
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
October 30 2009 18:37 GMT
#691
I traded SKT for CJ because imo CJ has more games left and easier opponents too.
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
October 30 2009 19:05 GMT
#692
Guess i gotta cheer for CJ really hard this week ^.~

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Urth
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1249 Posts
October 30 2009 19:10 GMT
#693
I'm cheering hard for CJ as well haha

freaking iris and movie need to step it up!
BY.HERO FIGHTING!!!!
gunsharp
Profile Joined November 2007
260 Posts
October 30 2009 22:36 GMT
#694
Ditto. I have a full CJ build except for Jaedong.
ICCup.Reyis
Profile Joined September 2009
Niger25 Posts
October 31 2009 03:15 GMT
#695
I couldn't found my team on the list donno why maybe someone have forgotten me? -_-;;
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Urth
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1249 Posts
October 31 2009 05:41 GMT
#696
+ Show Spoiler +
freaking CJ is aweful =/
BY.HERO FIGHTING!!!!
KP_CollectoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States744 Posts
October 31 2009 05:52 GMT
#697
Movie needs to gtfo of my fantasy team plz - the dude looks like an insomniac stoner and why do i have more than one protoss on my team anyway? FML
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lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
October 31 2009 06:08 GMT
#698
how the hell are there no teams with wemadefox? they're pretty much insta win at this point.
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 06:17:39
October 31 2009 06:17 GMT
#699
On October 31 2009 14:52 KP_CollectoR wrote:
Movie needs to gtfo of my fantasy team plz - the dude looks like an insomniac stoner and why do i have more than one protoss on my team anyway? FML


this is basically my current line of thought

regardless of if he wins, I mean
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 18:18:17
October 31 2009 06:44 GMT
#700
[2009-10-31 W4D1] WEM 3-1 CJE | ACE 3-2 HWA
The Hwaseung coach continues to pick Killer for ace matches instead of Jaedong, and Oz paid the price today. CJ was unable to even bring it to an ace match as their best player Effort was playing in IEF today. WeMade rolls on -- can you believe they only cost 2 points at the start of the round??Also, Ruby and Darkelf are looking like huge fantasy sleepers now.

The moment of truth for most of the Top 100 was yesterday -- trade KT for another team? Several KT owners did, opting for CJ or Hwaseung this week, and much to their disappointment, both teams lost. With no prospects of getting KT back, can they hold on to their rankings near the top of the pile through this week? No Flash, no Luxury, and no good trades -- we may see those former KT owners drop a ton in the standings.
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