EPTGah, I'll just go with Flying. Buy into the Flying hype~
[Fantasy] PL 09-10 R1 Discussion - Page 34
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Apex
United States7226 Posts
Gah, I'll just go with Flying. Buy into the Flying hype~ | ||
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
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MrMoose
Canada176 Posts
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
On October 29 2009 14:20 MrMoose wrote: where do you see the lineups? its just awhile ago........ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=104608 | ||
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MrMoose
Canada176 Posts
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trollbone
France1905 Posts
Nobody of the big teams are playing KT/SKT/STX and even OGN So what us (big team owners) want to do ? Trade KT/SKT for a lesser team ? Trade  Bisu/ Calm/ Flash/luxury for lesser player ? Yeah we can trade them and gain some points (maybe) but i don't think we will re take them after.And for the anti -team, should we take a player of a superior team which is not playing this week or try to avoid this becasue the week after this will be very hard to change player .... So i want an answer from admin ^^ : - If i take Hyuk (25.46 ) on my anti-team, SKT doesnt play so i wont loose points and so is trade value will decrease. I want to know of how much ?- if i take Sea (39,31) on my team, assuming he wins is 2 match + his team win (+ 8 points), can i re take Calm (41,21) (who will have lost value because his team dont play for a week) the week after. How much Sea will have gain ? Howw much Calm will have loose ?- i can't change Calm for a terran player because he is my only zerg. If i change BoxeR for ggaemo, the change will be taken ito account this week and my 2nd trade can be Calm --> Sea ?Thx ! gos[flying] play 2 times but he will loose 2 times + his team will loose against MBC and Khan i think (the lineup are not that great). He has to play against Light and great, he is a relatively new player and i dont think he will gain some points here.this is too much inpredictable we cannot rely on him ggaemo is in a good team (OZ) that will gain one points for sure (against ACE) and maybe another against wemade. He has one match against Casy ! Casy hasnt played a single match this season and i think its becasue he isnt good anymore. If he isnt in the lineup in ACE hethen is one of the baddest player on the baddest team. ggaemo is in a good team and i think will win is 3 points here | ||
Hot_Bid
Braavos36370 Posts
On October 29 2009 22:00 trollbone wrote: - If i take Hyuk (25.46 ) on my anti-team, SKT doesnt play so i wont loose points and so is trade value will decrease. I want to know of how much?If SKT doesnt play, then Hyuk's remaining matches dont change, so theres no difference in his ATV. Players ATV don't change unless their team plays. Hyuks value wont change until SKT plays again. - if i take Sea (39,31) on my team, assuming he wins is 2 match + his team win (+ 8 points), can i re take Calm (41,21) (who will have lost value because his team dont play for a week) the week after. How much Sea will have gain ? Howw much Calm will have loose ?The answer here is no. The adjusted trade value of the player is a function of his value multiplied by matches remaining. Sea started at 4 points cost, Calm started at 8 points cost. The reason why their ATVs are close right now is because Sea has more matches remaining. So right now, you have to make a decision whether you want Sea for 7 matches or Calm for 5 matches. The system is saying that having Sea for 7 matches and Calm for 5 matches will result in roughly the same fantasy points earned. Thus, if you choose Sea for 7 matches, you obviously won't be able to trade back for Calm after Sea plays two more matches and has 5 matches remaining as well, because we all know that Sea for 5 matches and Calm for 5 matches is not equal (since they started so far apart in price and Calm has more points scored). - i can't change Calm for a terran player because he is my only zerg. If i change BoxeR for ggaemo, the change will be taken ito account this week and my 2nd trade can be Calm --> Sea ?Yes this is possible. However, if you cancel the Boxer-for-ggaemo trade, and leave the Calm-for-Sea trade, the system will simply cancel the Calm-for-Sea trade at the end of the trading period because you have no Zergs on your team. | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36370 Posts
Let me give you an example. Lets say Boxer is worth 1 point per SKT match, while Jaedong is worth 10 points per Hwaseung match. If SKT has 10 matches remaining and Hwaseung has 1 match remaining, both players should contribute roughly 10 points. Thus, their ATVs will be equal, even though their TVs are extremely far apart. This is the situation happening right now with Sea and Calm. Right now, Sea's TV is 5.6, while Calm's is 8.2. If both had 5 matches remaining, their ATVs would be 28 (5x5.6) for Sea and 41 (5x8.2) for Calm. So Calm would be worth much more and you wont be able to trade. But right now, Sea has 7 matches, so his ATV is 39 (7x5.6) while Calm's is 41 (5x8.2). Next week, Calm will still have 5 matches remaining (since STX doesnt play this week) and Sea will also have 5 remaining (since he has 7 now and MBC plays 2x). Thus, in order to trade back for Calm, Sea would need a TV of 8.2. Its possible for TVs to go up if a player wins, but its almost impossible for a player to go from 5.6 to 8.2 in one week, even if Sea wins every match and plays two ace matches. Thus, if you trade Calm for Sea this week, you won't be able to trade back for Calm after Sea plays his two matches. | ||
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integral
United States3156 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=89231 | ||
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dnosrc
Germany454 Posts
On October 29 2009 22:00 trollbone wrote: - if i take Sea (39,31) on my team, assuming he wins is 2 match + his team win (+ 8 points), can i re take Calm (41,21) (who will have lost value because his team dont play for a week) the week after. How much Sea will have gain ? Howw much Calm will have loose ?If sea scores 16 points you can retake Calm. Very unlikely | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
Right now, Keke is a retired player, but he is still in the fantasy lineup. If I pick him for my anti-team, will I still lose points if MBC wins? | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36370 Posts
On October 30 2009 00:24 dukethegold wrote: I have a question. Right now, Keke is a retired player, but he is still in the fantasy lineup. If I pick him for my anti-team, will I still lose points if MBC wins? Keke is listed as a WeMade player, and we decided that since he's only 1 point or whatever anyway, its basically the same as picking any of those random 1 pointers that have no chance playing, thats why we didn't remove him (we didnt realize this until after a few people had picked him so it wasnt worth the trouble going back). Short answer, yes, if WeMade wins you still lose team win points, its just as if Keke is on their team still but has no chance of playing. | ||
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dangots0ul
United States919 Posts
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integral
United States3156 Posts
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Magic84
Russian Federation1381 Posts
Sea will probably bring more points in 7 mbc games, especially since he's 100% guaranteed to play 2 times this week. stx also don't view Calm as the ultimate ace match player putting guys like Hero or Modesty there. Same with Bisu (40.19; 5?) -> Sea (39.31; 7), but to lesser extent, although i can easily imagine them using Fantasy or Hyuk for ace matches. By the way, is there no mistake? Do all the teams play exactly 11 games this round or any regular round? | ||
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Blyf
Denmark408 Posts
On October 29 2009 13:44 RainmanMP wrote: Out of my 94 main team points, 54 of them are from KT and Flash. Woo! Well they are worth half your buying points. | ||
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Fr33t
United States1128 Posts
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Kyuukyuu
Canada6263 Posts
On October 30 2009 03:28 Fr33t wrote: Anyone else thinking of trading KT for CJ? I mean, best case scenario you have CJ getting two 3-0's earning you 13 points after losing a point for the trade, that's a lot of points. The problem with it though it that there is probably no chance of getting KT back after this week but you might be able to trade for STX. Ughhh I'm considering this too, but I have really bad experiences with trading (-43 Trade Gain last round bahaha... and that time I traded away STX who went 10-1). I do have Skyhigh/Movie/Effort, so if I get CJ and they do win twice (which they should against Wemade and ACE), I can get major points this week. But I dunno if it's worth it later :S | ||
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gunsharp
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Jangbi -> Gosi[Flying] or MVP? I see both of them losing both matches but Jangbi is not even playing... Hyuk -> Skyhigh? I don't really want to trade a Z who can beat JD but Skyhigh plays twice this week and should win at least 1. Sea is on my AT and I can only trade for Bisu, Calm, Light, Roro, Flash. Just stick it out and hope for the best? | ||
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Blyf
Denmark408 Posts
On October 30 2009 06:39 gunsharp wrote: Questions: Jangbi -> Gosi[Flying] or MVP? I see both of them losing both matches but Jangbi is not even playing... Hyuk -> Skyhigh? I don't really want to trade a Z who can beat JD but Skyhigh plays twice this week and should win at least 1. Sea is on my AT and I can only trade for Bisu, Calm, Light, Roro, Flash. Just stick it out and hope for the best? Get Roro. Sea will win both his games with ease | ||
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