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lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
October 19 2009 12:28 GMT
#421
god, movie is such dead weight. hope CJ keeps sending him out.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
October 19 2009 12:34 GMT
#422
Ugh, crappy day for me. I was supposed to rake it all in, with JD, Eff0rt, and Iris playing. Then they had to go for a combined 2-2, with Eff0rt getting snubbed int he ace-match in favor of Savior, effectively robbing me of 6 points (+2 game win, +2 ace appearance). Sadly, I'll likely not get any more points this week, outside of KT team points.
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
October 19 2009 12:34 GMT
#423
iris, movie and really

those 3 messed up my fantasy pretty bad...
BW is back
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-19 12:36:37
October 19 2009 12:35 GMT
#424
On October 19 2009 21:28 lazz wrote:
god, movie is such dead weight. hope CJ keeps sending him out.

I think Movie might be getting split time now that he's losing so much. Iris probably will be played even less. Thats the problem with picking 1 pointers -- they have to win or they are incredibly hard to trade, so if the coach stops sending them... you're stuck forever. At least with 2-3 pointers you get a week or two of trade possibilities.
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Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
October 19 2009 12:36 GMT
#425
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I could have scored so many points today, turned out to be total failure.Not to mention CJ having 1 game this week so iam kinda stuck with it's trash for the next one as well, unless i trade Iris and Movie for ACE players lol.

CJ's coach decision to randomly send Savior in ace while having Effort in roster didn't help either.
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
October 19 2009 12:39 GMT
#426
Look on the bright side, your anti-team is very good. Should have rolled the dice with the MBC (W1) --trade--> Hite (W2) combo that's earned +9 points so far, with Hite having another match this week (only cost 3 points too instead of 6 like CJ).

Does anyone want to take a crack at figuring out optimal teams with trades included? It's pretty tough even for just two weeks. I'm not sure if it's better to do what I suggested (MBC-->Hite) or just get 5pt KT Rolster.
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lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-19 12:49:16
October 19 2009 12:39 GMT
#427
On October 19 2009 21:35 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2009 21:28 lazz wrote:
god, movie is such dead weight. hope CJ keeps sending him out.

I think Movie might be getting split time now that he's losing so much. Iris probably will be played even less. Thats the problem with picking 1 pointers -- they have to win or they are incredibly hard to trade, so if the coach stops sending them... you're stuck forever. At least with 2-3 pointers you get a week or two of trade possibilities.

I agree. I didn't think it'd apply so much to movie - he's pretty much CJ's only solid protoss with Much gone. Iris was wayyy more of a risk when skyhigh is a much better performer in proleague and CJ usually sending 2 zergs.

I still have faith they'll send movie though - he's only 0-2 so far. maybe if he goes 0-2 next week (CJ playing twice next week). then I'm really in trouble.

On October 19 2009 21:39 Hot_Bid wrote:

Does anyone want to take a crack at figuring out optimal teams with trades included? It's pretty tough even for just two weeks. I'm not sure if it's better to do what I suggested (MBC-->Hite) or just get 5pt KT Rolster.


they both pay off at 3 points per $ invested

MBC: 3$ originally, 9 point pay off (MBC-->Hite) 9/3 = 3
KT: 5$ originally, 15 point pay off 15/5 = 3

depends on whether buying players with the extra points could pay off more efficiently or not: I'd imagine that KT is the better investment simply because the only comparably profitable player would be roro at a 14 point pay off for 5 points, which falls short of KT's pay off. (14/5 < 15/3 obviously). this implies that team payoffs are more profitable than player pay offs overall, so you'd invest more in teams.

someone should write a program for this. i wonder if it's possible to do with with matrix algebra.. inputting all the values would take absolutely forever though.


sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
October 19 2009 12:51 GMT
#428
I aways fail at picking anti-team. :D Hotang2, Really and TheZerg scored 13 points. And I thought I had finally picked a good one. lol
noddyz
Profile Joined October 2008
United Kingdom462 Posts
October 19 2009 14:19 GMT
#429


depends on whether buying players with the extra points could pay off more efficiently or not: I'd imagine that KT is the better investment simply because the only comparably profitable player would be roro at a 14 point pay off for 5 points, which falls short of KT's pay off. (14/5 < 15/3 obviously). this implies that team payoffs are more profitable than player pay offs overall, so you'd invest more in teams.




KT has a extra game in hand though.
KT=15/5/3=1
Roro=14/5/2=1.4

Roro has a significantly better pay off at the moment.
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pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
October 19 2009 14:58 GMT
#430
On October 19 2009 21:35 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2009 21:28 lazz wrote:
god, movie is such dead weight. hope CJ keeps sending him out.

I think Movie might be getting split time now that he's losing so much. Iris probably will be played even less. Thats the problem with picking 1 pointers -- they have to win or they are incredibly hard to trade, so if the coach stops sending them... you're stuck forever. At least with 2-3 pointers you get a week or two of trade possibilities.

Im also worried that Movie might have to split the games from now on, since he haven't been doing too well, CJ coach might wanna give the rookies a chance. Well at least his tradevalue ain't going down too fast, -0.09 this week and CJ didn't win either. There's still the ACE players to trade for ;p

Movie ain't even the worst performer of my team though, Kwanro sitting at decent 0-3, and i just had to choose him at the start instead of Killer so i could use the full 30points, can't trade him for Killer now thats for sure. JD winning the ace saved the day from being abysmal, still got like only half of the points i could've had today.

i really like lazz's team, only 815 in his antiteam bothers me a bit for the constant -1, but that ain't too bad ;p
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
October 19 2009 14:59 GMT
#431
Damn. Had Movie beaten Really, I'd have 9 points more now.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-19 15:37:22
October 19 2009 15:36 GMT
#432
Yesterday went weirdly, I was fairly confident in getting some points, but on my main team, I kinda figured that CJ and (P)PerfectMan would win, while I did not expect (Z)ZerO to beat (Z)Jaedong or appear in ace. And while my trading away (T)Lomo on my anti-team was a good move, I was burned by (T)Really's victory. Mixed results, but I'm still treading water in the 200-400 range which is positive for now...

Need further wins from (Z)YellOw[ArnC] and (P)Horang2 to make this week productive.
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8176 Posts
October 19 2009 16:07 GMT
#433
oh man fantasy SC is like 100x more boring when you're not instantly in the top 50 lol
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
October 19 2009 16:13 GMT
#434
i dont get anti team lol

i put 815 on my anti team and he hasn't playe an PL games and hes like -3 now? and i keep losing points lol
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
October 19 2009 16:20 GMT
#435
On October 20 2009 01:13 alffla wrote:
i dont get anti team lol

i put 815 on my anti team and he hasn't playe an PL games and hes like -3 now? and i keep losing points lol


Stop picking anti-team players on good teams.
My anti-team is players from weaker teams. I would stay away from picking anyone from, KT, Oz, or SKT1
BachHo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States170 Posts
October 19 2009 16:23 GMT
#436
On October 20 2009 01:13 alffla wrote:
i dont get anti team lol

i put 815 on my anti team and he hasn't playe an PL games and hes like -3 now? and i keep losing points lol

It's been said many times in this thread. When a team wins, all the players on the team receive +1. Since 815 is on KT, and KT is raping, 815 gets +1 for each win, which means you get -1 for each.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
October 19 2009 16:26 GMT
#437
ohh ok haha thanks guys! godamn 815 lol -_-;
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
October 19 2009 17:45 GMT
#438
I feel you bro, i got a solid team but my antiteam has light and 815 on it. Im down two hundred ranks because of it
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Fr33t
Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
October 19 2009 18:52 GMT
#439
Ughhh, why did effort not get sent out for ace?!?! On the upside, trading has been good.

Trades Made
Wk ▲Traded Acquired Pt ±
1 Bisu Calm +2
1 sKyHigh UpMagiC +3
Sub-Total: +5
Trade Gain: +5

Ahhhh...so good. And calm still has another game scheduled with a possible ace. Up to #26
"Wow you could literally transport Lomo's face to a girl and the result would be pretty deceptive."
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
October 19 2009 18:52 GMT
#440
If Savior won I would've gotten 6 more points x.x
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