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Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
October 16 2009 15:30 GMT
#361
So I read somebody around said the rules would change. Like no point for lineup and -2 for lose instead of -1, so the anti team can also gain you points.

That holds true? Because the "Rules & Tips" thingie at the first post has not changed I think.

Thanks in advance.
Revolutionist fan
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
October 16 2009 15:31 GMT
#362
any scoring changes will happen next season, not this one. So the OP is still accurate for this season.
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
October 16 2009 15:32 GMT
#363
Oh ok i thought he meant the next week, not season xD

Time to undo some trade lol :D
Revolutionist fan
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
October 16 2009 16:43 GMT
#364
Hmmm... #46 after week 1. I'm pretty sure I ended last season at 46. Pleased with most of my team so far.
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bugus
Profile Joined November 2008
Romania133 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-16 16:57:28
October 16 2009 16:56 GMT
#365
On October 16 2009 22:34 Musoeun wrote:
1) Who to ditch from anti, Lomo or Sea? They're likely to both win. I can get better "value" for Lomo, but Sea's far more likely to pull ace duty.


this is my situation also, finally I decided to keep them both, hoping they lose. What did you do?

Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8176 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-16 17:09:04
October 16 2009 17:08 GMT
#366
is it a good idea to trade kwanro for hiya right now in case kwanro loses value and I can't make that trade next week (when presumably Hiya will be playing again)? Or is that impossible?
Free Palestine
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
October 16 2009 18:40 GMT
#367
I just hope OZ's coach comes to his senses and starts sending Jaedong in ACE games .
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 16 2009 18:42 GMT
#368
I think Sea is still somewhat likely to lose, it's a good test of whether or not Hyuk is pure hype. Lomo is a bit iffier, but his tvt is garbage.
DrTJEckleburg
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1080 Posts
October 16 2009 22:25 GMT
#369
I'm doing shitty as hell, no surprise, haha!

On a side note: I made two trades this week and it only lists my trade tax as minus one, shouldn't it be minus two?
Im pretty good at whistling with my hands, especially when Im holding a whistle.
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21552 Posts
October 16 2009 22:34 GMT
#370
On October 17 2009 00:30 Salteador Neo wrote:
So I read somebody around said the rules would change. Like no point for lineup and -2 for lose instead of -1, so the anti team can also gain you points.

That holds true? Because the "Rules & Tips" thingie at the first post has not changed I think.

Thanks in advance.

Not til next round.
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Abydos1
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States832 Posts
October 16 2009 23:02 GMT
#371
On October 17 2009 07:25 DrTJEckleburg wrote:
I'm doing shitty as hell, no surprise, haha!

On a side note: I made two trades this week and it only lists my trade tax as minus one, shouldn't it be minus two?


Team trades don't incur a -1 trade tax.
"...perhaps the greatest joy possible in Starcraft, being accused of being a maphacker" - Day[9]
BachHo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States170 Posts
October 16 2009 23:47 GMT
#372
On October 17 2009 08:02 Abydos1 wrote:
Team trades don't incur a -1 trade tax.


Oh, really...

-evil laugh-
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17843 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-17 00:23:54
October 17 2009 00:22 GMT
#373
Just a random thought: Shouldn't there be an exception added to trading?
I mean, what if the player that you have on your team gets injured/retires mid-season or otherwise disappears from the rosters?
Should you be able to trade your captain in such case?
Should you get 1 "free" trade (ie. no -1 trade tax to exchange the current player)?
Should you get 1 more trade/week to replace this player?

Edit: And likewise be forced to trade him if he's on your AT.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-17 01:38:25
October 17 2009 01:32 GMT
#374
On October 17 2009 09:22 Manit0u wrote:
Just a random thought: Shouldn't there be an exception added to trading?
I mean, what if the player that you have on your team gets injured/retires mid-season or otherwise disappears from the rosters?
Should you be able to trade your captain in such case?
Should you get 1 "free" trade (ie. no -1 trade tax to exchange the current player)?
Should you get 1 more trade/week to replace this player?

Edit: And likewise be forced to trade him if he's on your AT.

i think this would be a good idea

out of curiosity, what did they do with backho when he injured his back? i wasnt playing FPL during that time so I don't know

On October 16 2009 22:56 fusionsdf wrote:
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On October 16 2009 16:06 lazz wrote:
On October 16 2009 09:06 fusionsdf wrote:
and bogus is going to have how many? Especially with both hwasin and frozean to compete with. At least yarnc only has to compete with type-b, and has narrow ace match chances (especially with leta slump)


you're justifying your decision based on speculation. im of the opinion that trades should be made based on how many line up appearances the player has in the given week. it's almost impossible to predict who the coaches are gonna send out in the future. for example, mother flippin bisu isnt playing for skt in one of their games this week.

but yes, if bogus isnt playing this week trade him out.



Do that and you will always be trading down. If bogus loses both games (congratulations, you just gained no points) and yarnc wins his, I doubt you will still be able to make that trade at any time in the future. Yarnc is likely to generate far more points over this season than bogus. Any time that happens, you are trading up, and you should trade up whenever you can.

Bisu may only have one lineup appearance, but it would be beyond stupid to trade him for gorush (2 appearances). Look at who will generate more points over the season and trade up when you have the opportunity.


Yes of course what I said isn't a hard and fast rule - it's just something to keep in mind when making trades. I would never trade bisu for gorush - I usually trade for people within a close trade value. And you have to take risks if you want to finish high in FPL. every week I trade downwards - that is, if I have a player not playing twice, or not playing in every game that his time is playing - i WILL trade him, if possible. if there's no good trades within a certain range of his trade value then I won't though. Same with anti team. if someone on my anti team is playing I trade him away, no exceptions. this would change with the new rules proposed for next season though.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
October 17 2009 01:52 GMT
#375
On October 17 2009 09:22 Manit0u wrote:
Just a random thought: Shouldn't there be an exception added to trading?
I mean, what if the player that you have on your team gets injured/retires mid-season or otherwise disappears from the rosters?
Should you be able to trade your captain in such case?
Should you get 1 "free" trade (ie. no -1 trade tax to exchange the current player)?
Should you get 1 more trade/week to replace this player?

Edit: And likewise be forced to trade him if he's on your AT.

There are very very few instances of someone retiring midseason who actually contributes to proleague. Keke retired and he's on two teams. It doesn't matter if he retires because he didn't play anyway. I really doubt you are going to make your captain someone who is about to retire, it's pretty rare, and unnecessarily complex to create such an option because it like never happens.
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Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-17 02:34:12
October 17 2009 02:30 GMT
#376
On October 17 2009 01:56 bugus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2009 22:34 Musoeun wrote:
1) Who to ditch from anti, Lomo or Sea? They're likely to both win. I can get better "value" for Lomo, but Sea's far more likely to pull ace duty.


this is my situation also, finally I decided to keep them both, hoping they lose. What did you do?



Currently, I decided to keep Sea for at least this week and trade Lomo for Guemchi - I'm about 80% certain Lomo will beat MVP and OZ will win even if he doesn't. I'm predicting Lomo would get me -4, or at least another -1 which would mean I come out even this week, and with Lomo more likely to win and/or see games in the future I'm ahead. Of course if Stars win then I'm "screwed" this week... but I'm only out a total of two points, which I'm willing to risk.

Sea is still a risk - but when the worst players I can trade him for are Violet, Stork, or RorO (on a hot streak), I can't justify any trades, especially the way Hyuk's been playing. Hopefully it won't bite me in the ass.

On October 17 2009 10:52 Hot_Bid wrote:
There are very very few instances of someone retiring midseason who actually contributes to proleague. Keke retired and he's on two teams. It doesn't matter if he retires because he didn't play anyway. I really doubt you are going to make your captain someone who is about to retire, it's pretty rare, and unnecessarily complex to create such an option because it like never happens.


In keke's defence, he did play a reasonable amount last season up till the last round or so (splitting time with Shine behind RorO). But the no-shows at offlines were huge big red floating asterisk in the sky saying "don't pick this guy, don't pick this guy". GGPlay of course retired before the season, but he was barely playing - I'd also keep an eye on Daezang, he's actually not playing bad for coming from ACE but I don't know how long that'll last.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
Dark_Storm
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)5 Posts
October 17 2009 02:59 GMT
#377
My #1 rank will crumble in 1 hr.
K.A.R.A.
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2605 Posts
October 17 2009 03:39 GMT
#378
I HATE (T)Mind and (Z)RorO!!! wow, didn't expect -8 coming from both of them : ( my anti-team is doomed anyways
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
October 17 2009 05:44 GMT
#379
Oh god, another KT win, and that was 3-0.God damn!
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
October 17 2009 05:47 GMT
#380
Well, maybe I should have traded Light after all. Damn. Also KT only won 3-1 thanks to failGG getting raped by MBC's 3rd-best Protoss.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
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