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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 15 2009 21:32 GMT
#101
On September 16 2009 06:26 Linx_101 wrote:
This makes a Flash fan feel bad

Also, what are the race imbalances......

I believe they are Z>P, P>T and T>Z, but i could be wrong.

Could someone double check.

Traditionally that's what they've been, but changes to the map pool and metagame have obviously shifted those opinions around.

And I do agree Flash should be considered in this discussion.
Moderator
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8141 Posts
September 15 2009 21:32 GMT
#102
On September 16 2009 06:26 Linx_101 wrote:
This makes a Flash fan feel bad

Also, what are the race imbalances......

I believe they are Z>P, P>T and T>Z, but i could be wrong.

Could someone double check.


flash should stop losing to both of them all the time then.
Free Palestine
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-15 21:35:40
September 15 2009 21:35 GMT
#103
On September 16 2009 06:32 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2009 06:26 Linx_101 wrote:
This makes a Flash fan feel bad

Also, what are the race imbalances......

I believe they are Z>P, P>T and T>Z, but i could be wrong.

Could someone double check.


flash should stop losing to both of them all the time then.

Being 10 : 9 against Bisu and 9 : 12 against Jaedong counts as losing to them "all the time"?
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peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
September 15 2009 21:39 GMT
#104
great, jaedong can't handle s level toss players.

not bonjwa unless he:
1. rapes everyone next season
2. rapes everyone next season
3. bisu and flash stop playing sc for WoW
the throws never bothered me anyway
Linx_101
Profile Joined November 2008
Canada166 Posts
September 15 2009 21:41 GMT
#105
On September 16 2009 02:45 IntoTheWow wrote:
...

[image loading]



YOU ARE A GOD INTOTHEWOW

seriously, this is awesome!!
An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind - Mahatma Gandhi
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
September 15 2009 22:31 GMT
#106
On September 16 2009 06:35 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2009 06:32 Ideas wrote:
On September 16 2009 06:26 Linx_101 wrote:
This makes a Flash fan feel bad

Also, what are the race imbalances......

I believe they are Z>P, P>T and T>Z, but i could be wrong.

Could someone double check.


flash should stop losing to both of them all the time then.

Being 10 : 9 against Bisu and 9 : 12 against Jaedong counts as losing to them "all the time"?

Flash hasn't had any 'significant' victory over Bisu since Bacchus 08, other than 1 in Incruit OSL.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
kiykiy
Profile Joined July 2009
233 Posts
September 15 2009 22:41 GMT
#107
On September 16 2009 04:43 l10f wrote:
Jaedong is on a ten day vacation with his beloved friend Lomo in Canada!

Love the "gay" comment by the netizens. Looks like ggaemo was supposed to go too but couldn't because he had passport issues.

"I hear Canada allows same-sex marriage" - Some Korean Netizen


lawl "honeymoon" comment
lalala
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-15 22:48:35
September 15 2009 22:46 GMT
#108
On September 16 2009 06:32 samachking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2009 06:23 GGQ wrote:
On September 16 2009 05:11 Harem wrote:
The only time I'll ever be jealous of canada and its citizens


lol, where in Canada are they going? Does it say?

That picture looks like the Rockies.


Its Vancouver if you put it in google translator


WOMG. must find!
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
September 16 2009 00:08 GMT
#109

On September 16 2009 02:45 IntoTheWow wrote:
...

[image loading]



i just shat brix
cw)minsean(ru
l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
September 16 2009 00:19 GMT
#110
On September 16 2009 09:08 DreaM)XeRO wrote:

Show nested quote +
On September 16 2009 02:45 IntoTheWow wrote:
...

[image loading]



i just shat brix


DRAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Now Bisu has to call Jaedong up to the stage when he wins the next OSL!
Writer
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8141 Posts
September 16 2009 00:32 GMT
#111
On September 16 2009 06:35 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2009 06:32 Ideas wrote:
On September 16 2009 06:26 Linx_101 wrote:
This makes a Flash fan feel bad

Also, what are the race imbalances......

I believe they are Z>P, P>T and T>Z, but i could be wrong.

Could someone double check.


flash should stop losing to both of them all the time then.

Being 10 : 9 against Bisu and 9 : 12 against Jaedong counts as losing to them "all the time"?


2-6 vs bisu in 2009, 4-6 in last 10 (goes back to april 08)

2-2 vs JD in 2009, 3-7 in last 10 (goes back to august 08)

Free Palestine
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
September 16 2009 00:33 GMT
#112
On September 16 2009 06:35 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2009 06:32 Ideas wrote:
On September 16 2009 06:26 Linx_101 wrote:
This makes a Flash fan feel bad

Also, what are the race imbalances......

I believe they are Z>P, P>T and T>Z, but i could be wrong.

Could someone double check.


flash should stop losing to both of them all the time then.

Being 10 : 9 against Bisu and 9 : 12 against Jaedong counts as losing to them "all the time"?

however that 10 vs Bisu does include his cheese fest in the Daum OSL
And during his Bacchus run Flash was pretty much superman
cw)minsean(ru
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
September 16 2009 00:36 GMT
#113
On September 15 2009 22:22 KinosJourney2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2009 22:03 nayumi wrote:
On September 15 2009 21:51 motbob wrote:
I think Jaedong has 3 OSLs and Bisu has zero. I also think that Jaedong's worst MU is ZvP and Bisu's best MU is PvZ.

Isn't Jaedong's worst MU ZvT; and Bisu's best MU PvP? ...


I think you have confused Bisu with Stork, Bisus best MU is PvZ.


Id say his best is PvP and storks best is PvT... Anyway, they played on most Z maps so being 6-7 against JD on mostly Z maps is still an accomplishment in itself.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
September 16 2009 00:40 GMT
#114
On September 16 2009 09:36 GreEny K wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2009 22:22 KinosJourney2 wrote:
On September 15 2009 22:03 nayumi wrote:
On September 15 2009 21:51 motbob wrote:
I think Jaedong has 3 OSLs and Bisu has zero. I also think that Jaedong's worst MU is ZvP and Bisu's best MU is PvZ.

Isn't Jaedong's worst MU ZvT; and Bisu's best MU PvP? ...


I think you have confused Bisu with Stork, Bisus best MU is PvZ.


Id say his best is PvP and storks best is PvT... Anyway, they played on most Z maps so being 6-7 against JD on mostly Z maps is still an accomplishment in itself.

Not really. BeST used to be "amazing" at PvP, which included a 13 game winning streak vs P, but as of now, Bisu has the best PvP. (at around 67%) Stork and Jangbi have the most solid PvT's and Free, Kal and Bisu have solid solid PvZ's.
cw)minsean(ru
iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
September 16 2009 02:39 GMT
#115
that's Kanye West's shirt seems very very expensive.
Xellos <3
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
September 16 2009 02:43 GMT
#116
On September 16 2009 06:11 ForSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2009 21:52 alffla wrote:
jaedong bonjwa ez....

savior overcame map imbalance why cant bisu rofl noob.....

Exactly.


Cuz we wasant facing Jaedong lol!

Imagine this is the F1 scene, Bisu is schumacher, and Jaedong is Senna, if jaedong died bisu would dominate for sure.

+ Show Spoiler +
KILL THE LEGEND KILLER?! i didnt say it ...+ Show Spoiler +
as if it was possible
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
September 16 2009 03:56 GMT
#117
On September 16 2009 09:40 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2009 09:36 GreEny K wrote:
On September 15 2009 22:22 KinosJourney2 wrote:
On September 15 2009 22:03 nayumi wrote:
On September 15 2009 21:51 motbob wrote:
I think Jaedong has 3 OSLs and Bisu has zero. I also think that Jaedong's worst MU is ZvP and Bisu's best MU is PvZ.

Isn't Jaedong's worst MU ZvT; and Bisu's best MU PvP? ...


I think you have confused Bisu with Stork, Bisus best MU is PvZ.


Id say his best is PvP and storks best is PvT... Anyway, they played on most Z maps so being 6-7 against JD on mostly Z maps is still an accomplishment in itself.

Not really. BeST used to be "amazing" at PvP, which included a 13 game winning streak vs P, but as of now, Bisu has the best PvP. (at around 67%) Stork and Jangbi have the most solid PvT's and Free, Kal and Bisu have solid solid PvZ's.

I like how you say "not really," then proceed to agree with him.
GANDHISAUCE
l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
September 16 2009 04:01 GMT
#118
On September 16 2009 12:56 De4ngus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2009 09:40 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
On September 16 2009 09:36 GreEny K wrote:
On September 15 2009 22:22 KinosJourney2 wrote:
On September 15 2009 22:03 nayumi wrote:
On September 15 2009 21:51 motbob wrote:
I think Jaedong has 3 OSLs and Bisu has zero. I also think that Jaedong's worst MU is ZvP and Bisu's best MU is PvZ.

Isn't Jaedong's worst MU ZvT; and Bisu's best MU PvP? ...


I think you have confused Bisu with Stork, Bisus best MU is PvZ.


Id say his best is PvP and storks best is PvT... Anyway, they played on most Z maps so being 6-7 against JD on mostly Z maps is still an accomplishment in itself.

Not really. BeST used to be "amazing" at PvP, which included a 13 game winning streak vs P, but as of now, Bisu has the best PvP. (at around 67%) Stork and Jangbi have the most solid PvT's and Free, Kal and Bisu have solid solid PvZ's.

I like how you say "not really," then proceed to agree with him.


I think he mistook "his best" as BeST.
Writer
lighter
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States152 Posts
September 16 2009 04:25 GMT
#119
On September 16 2009 11:39 iloveHieu wrote:
that's Kanye West's shirt seems very very expensive.

lol, he looks like he flipped the innertube of a tire around and squeezed into it >_>
ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
September 16 2009 04:35 GMT
#120
On September 16 2009 13:25 lighter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2009 11:39 iloveHieu wrote:
that's Kanye West's shirt seems very very expensive.

lol, he looks like he flipped the innertube of a tire around and squeezed into it >_>


I'm more impressed with what the heck happened to his hair
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