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501 Games: Jaedong vs Progamers - Page 4
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
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Elian
United States129 Posts
For the whole Bonjwa deal, did they name the other bonjwas during the middle of their peak, or after a period of evaluation or something. How does it work, exactly? It seems like with these numbers over the past 5 years JD has proven enough? Awesome post btw, really fun read. Time to print some Starcraft baseball cards.  | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On August 31 2009 03:14 Elian wrote: I'm newer to the community, and I was wondering: For the whole Bonjwa deal, did they name the other bonjwas during the middle of their peak, or after a period of evaluation or something. How does it work, exactly? It seems like with these numbers over the past 5 years JD has proven enough? Awesome post btw, really fun read. Time to print some Starcraft baseball cards. Bonjwa was a term coined around the time Savior activated God Mode and just dominated so thoroughly his reign was undisputed. The reason Jaedong was never really considered Bonjwa is because Bisu/Flash can and have kept up with him in terms of skill. Bonjwas have no equals. It's not just about the stats. | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
On August 31 2009 03:14 Elian wrote: I'm newer to the community, and I was wondering: For the whole Bonjwa deal, did they name the other bonjwas during the middle of their peak, or after a period of evaluation or something. How does it work, exactly? It seems like with these numbers over the past 5 years JD has proven enough? Awesome post btw, really fun read. Time to print some Starcraft baseball cards. After Savior got done wtfpwning everyone at the end of Shinhan 3, they decided to call him bonjwa, and also oov, NaDa, and Boxer too afterwards. Their defining characteristic is that they dominated really hard, but most of them had sharp declines and usually sucked vs the bonjwa after them. Their dominance and fall were also usually directly linked to changes in the metagame that they brought about and consequently fell to. | ||
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dmfg
United Kingdom591 Posts
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Nightmarjoo
United States3360 Posts
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fanatacist
10319 Posts
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Gumbo
Canada807 Posts
On August 31 2009 03:02 AlwaysGG wrote: -_- vs bonjwas sure they all from different era. if you wanna said Jaedong vs the great from the past. 1~3year from now a new bonjwas rise and when he stomping jaedong over i will make a thread like this and lets see if that's a fair compare calm down that stat is prolly just for fun. | ||
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nonduc
Russian Federation405 Posts
On August 31 2009 03:34 Nightmarjoo wrote: from 2006! Wow he's so consistant from 2007 on :O  On August 31 2009 03:56 Gumbo wrote: True! calm down that stat is prolly just for fun. | ||
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AtlaS
United States1001 Posts
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HanN00b
Germany1441 Posts
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
On August 31 2009 04:05 HanN00b wrote: I dont why people still say is no bonjwas. How much more dominating can a player be... The problem is that during this time Bisu and Flash have been right there with him, at times even better. Jaedong's usually been the best, and he's got the Golden Mouse and everything, but there have been plenty of players (Bisu, Flash, fantasy, free, and apparently Stork to name a few) with a good chance of taking games from him. I mean, even six months ago we were debating whether Luxury (LOL) might have finally polished his ZvZ to be better than Jaedong's. We were wrong, of course, but when a player's signature matchup isn't secure, he just isn't a bonjwa. | ||
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nonduc
Russian Federation405 Posts
On August 31 2009 04:05 HanN00b wrote: Jaedong should win the Avalon MSL. But the Semis was just prior to the Starleagues Semis… I dont why people still say is no bonjwas. How much more dominating can a player be...  Platinum Mouse will help to get the official status BOAT (BOAT > bonjwa). | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
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AlTheCake
Canada1071 Posts
On August 31 2009 04:16 nonduc wrote: Jaedong should win the Avalon MSL. But the Semis was just prior to the Starleagues Semis… Platinum Mouse will help to get the official status BOAT (BOAT > bonjwa). BOAT? Someone explain this to me D: | ||
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WindCalibur
Canada938 Posts
BOAT is Best of all times i believe... | ||
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ryuu_
United States1266 Posts
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Gnaix
United States438 Posts
On August 30 2009 22:50 Plexa wrote: And the only gamer that has a winning record vs Jaedong is.... Stork?! wtf haha p4ndemik is doing a beastly job adding every missing game to TLPD so in a few months you won't be able to say its inaccurate! doesn't backho have a winning record against jaedong too? | ||
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Shizuru~
Malaysia1676 Posts
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IcedTea
Canada13 Posts
On August 31 2009 04:10 Musoeun wrote: The problem is that during this time Bisu and Flash have been right there with him, at times even better. Jaedong's usually been the best, and he's got the Golden Mouse and everything, but there have been plenty of players (Bisu, Flash, fantasy, free, and apparently Stork to name a few) with a good chance of taking games from him. This gives the impression that players like Savior didn't lose games. They did still lose though, obviously. What was their winning % during their reign? And are we really going to hold it against Jaedong that he can lose to top players (even though he has a 50%+ win% against almost all of them)? Is the distinction that Jaedong loses to good players while Savior (etc) lose to bad no-names? If they had a huge winning % advantage over Jaedong I can see it, but if they're right in the same 68% range then I do not understand. On August 31 2009 04:10 Musoeun wrote: I mean, even six months ago we were debating whether Luxury (LOL) might have finally polished his ZvZ to be better than Jaedong's. We were wrong, of course, but when a player's signature matchup isn't secure, he just isn't a bonjwa. I'm not really sure what to make of this. Jaedong has the best vsZ of all time. Oov was bonjwa and was amazing at TvZ, but that doesn't mean he never lost a single vZ match ever. People seem to act like, since Jaedong has lost a match or two he cannot be bonjwa. Last I checked though, Boxer, Oov, Savior, etc did not have a golden mouse so they weren't exactly infallible either. | ||
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