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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-27 00:21:59
August 26 2009 16:41 GMT
#1
Originally from here: Source


Written by: Timeless
Homepage: http://www.cyworld.com/ansang2
Title: Do You Know TeamLiquid (TL)?

If you type in the keywords 'Team Liquid' (TL) on Naver, you will get the result 'TeamLiquidNet' in Korea, as well as the address link http://www.teamliquid.net/.

- What is it about?

If you search it up, it says it is an American Starcraft fansite, covering game tournaments, progamers and misc.
(If you browse the site, you will be amazed by the sheer volume of content they have.)

- Why suddenly?

I went to the recent Blizzcon 2009, and I've met a few friends there who browse that site.

Do you remember back in 2007 when pgr and TL contacted each other regarding their translating forums and other issues?

- What happened (in Blizzcon)?

During the tour to the Blizzard headquarters, the long-legged youth sitting beside me just came forward to me after seeing my name tag.

'PGR21'

That was what was written. His name was James, one of TeamLiquid's moderators (ID: Kennigit).

We exchanged greetings, talked about various stuff and later on, he invited me and my friends to their 'OSL Finals party'.

Next night at 10pm, there was an OSL Finals party in one of the hotel conference rooms. There were around 100 American TL users, moderators and staff from the site, all whom played Starcraft. Their main goal was of course, to watch the OSL finals which was to start in 2am (American time).

Around 11pm, there was a meeting with the CJ Entus progaming team. There was a signing and photo-taking session, as well as a quiz where each player asked 5 questions regarding themselves and gave CJ uniforms to those who guessed the answers correctly. Here, I was really surprised.

Questions were something like these:

Hometown? Birthday? Longest winning streak? Which opponent the player faced in which finals?

When I asked how did they get the questions correct, they said that they had a progaming database in TL. Isn't that amazing?
(On a side note, I got Effort's longest winning streak question correct. Haha)

And until the finals started, people drank beer and 2 people went forward to play 1:1s. There were even commentaries. Because the main purpose was to enjoy themselves, there were lots of vulgar chatting going on, as well as physical activities which were all very fun.

As it got closer to the start of the finals, we tuned in to watch the channel and it was interesting to listen to people (who were sitting beside me) talk about what the commercials were about ^^;

And finally! When the games started, everyone shouted 'one, two, three, Park Myung Soo Hwaiting! Lee Jae Dong Hwaiting!' Haha.
(Of course, I joined in as well.)

That was how I spent the night, and we met them again at Blizzcon the following day. In the afternoon, after the meeting with the reporters, we met them again. We talked about many things over dinner. A few of them knew quite a few things about pgr.

Also, there are a few similarities between TL and pgr.

1) People have full access to the entire site (other than posting) without the need to register
2) After registering, for 10 days, they can only post comments and not make threads.
3) When unsuitable posts are made, posts are deleted and sometimes, bans are given out.
4) There are around 8 people operating the site, similar to PGR.

Isn't this fascinating? ^^

I never knew there were such meetings outside of Korea involving genuine Starcraft fans who were so interested in the Korean leagues, players and teams.

I was deeply moved by their passion and love for the game, as well as their well manners. They really know how to enjoy Starcraft.

I would like to take this opportunity to say thank you and hi to James (Kennigit), Joseph (LosingID8), Jeffry (intrigue), Tom (so no fek), Cameron (aers), Darren (blabber) as well as other TL friends and Edwin (Kore from SC2GG), who was banned. (Of course, I don't think I can see them again ^^).
POGGERS
zXk3
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Mexico1178 Posts
August 26 2009 16:45 GMT
#2
LONG-LEGGED LEGEND!
GraphicsNo soy dominante, solo tengo mejores ideas...| Sorry Oshi, 4-1 shows that im better than you =D i wont do any more mistakes now
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
August 26 2009 16:47 GMT
#3
Leggigit
POGGERS
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9949 Posts
August 26 2009 16:49 GMT
#4
Jeffry = intrigue
James = Kennigit
Joseph = LosingID8

dunno the rest
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
August 26 2009 16:50 GMT
#5
Interesting read. I wish I could go to blizzcon/other big events. Usually when I find I am able to make it, I end up not getting tickets

Thanks for translating this.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
August 26 2009 16:50 GMT
#6
is Edwin fantacist? I remember he was banned lol
POGGERS
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-26 17:02:33
August 26 2009 16:50 GMT
#7
So fucking awesome. Gotta be good recognition for Tl. Hell If I had known about it ahead of time I'd wish even more that I had been more on the ball in getting my blizzcon tickets(waited way too long and they sold out before I even started to look)

Thanks for the translation once again konnaaaaaa.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
August 26 2009 16:51 GMT
#8
Kennigit should change full name to "Leggigit Nine Esports"
dats racist
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9031 Posts
August 26 2009 16:53 GMT
#9
On August 27 2009 01:41 konadora wrote:
There were around 100 American TL users, moderators and staff from the site, all whom played Starcraft. Their main goal was of course, to watch the OSL finals which was to start in 2am (American time).


So sad you guys had to watch a 3-0 ZvZ series lol.
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
August 26 2009 16:54 GMT
#10
Darren = me
Tom = so no fek
Edwin = Kore from SC2GG I believe
blabberrrrr
zXk3
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Mexico1178 Posts
August 26 2009 16:54 GMT
#11
"Leggigit the Neck-Snapper" IMHO
GraphicsNo soy dominante, solo tengo mejores ideas...| Sorry Oshi, 4-1 shows that im better than you =D i wont do any more mistakes now
lgd-haze
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden547 Posts
August 26 2009 16:58 GMT
#12
Can someone please translate the netizen comments on pgr21?

This is going really well. I really like that the korean bw scene gets an positive view on the foreigner scene!
Flying Tushin!!
miseiler
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1389 Posts
August 26 2009 17:00 GMT
#13
Aww..that's cute.
"Jinro soo manly wearing only a T-Shirt while the Koreans freeze in their jackets" -- Double_O
"He's from Sweden, man. We have to fight polar bears on our way to school." -- Yusername
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-26 17:02:20
August 26 2009 17:02 GMT
#14
yeah edwin is kore/kurotoss

most people on pgr21 already know about TL lol
Official Entusman #21
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
August 26 2009 17:06 GMT
#15
On August 27 2009 01:58 lgd-Haze wrote:
Can someone please translate the netizen comments on pgr21?

After countless seconds of discussion
Kona and I both said "NO" (don't worry they didn't insult Teamliquid)

But in a nutshell, there were no negative comments and they said they miss Naz'gul who could've been the greatest foreigner. And they also found it an honor that the TL Staff member came up to the PGR Staff first and introduced themselves.
dats racist
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-26 17:24:10
August 26 2009 17:08 GMT
#16
hahaha yeah sam was very cool. We played some fun games where i got raped in everything except TvT. Thanks kona for translating!

Timeless (2009-08-25 18:48:09)
항즐이님// 원래 알고 있었다구요! 중간에도 써 있잖아요^^;

그리고 저도 가서 열심히 TL을 찾고 있었는데 우연히 James가 먼저 말을 건 것 뿐입니다!

아! James와 스타2 6승 3패했습니다. 그러자 주변 TL 친구들 반응 'James는 TL 에서 진짜 못하는 애다'

하하하


~_~;;;;; Wax translated this for me hahah.

Says basically that he played some games vs me and went 6-3. He felt good but when he talked to other staff members they told him "James is the worst player on TL staff" hahaha.
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
August 26 2009 17:10 GMT
#17
27 win streak was it?
This is pretty cool though, I'm glad TL is getting recognition.
Sullifam
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
August 26 2009 17:11 GMT
#18
On August 27 2009 01:50 konadora wrote:
is Edwin fantacist? I remember he was banned lol


Nope, that's not his name haha
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
August 26 2009 17:12 GMT
#19
No, Edwin is kurotoss from sc2gg. He's actually much cooler in real life than i gave him credit (banned) for online haha. Actually all those sc2gg kids were cool cats.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
August 26 2009 17:14 GMT
#20
looooooooool thats so sweet hahaha

HI PGR21!!
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
August 26 2009 17:15 GMT
#21
Someone please explain to them that TL is not an American site :p
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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
August 26 2009 17:18 GMT
#22
Well it is advertised as the number one english speaking website.

So its either british or American :D You pick your posion!

I guess it could be a lot of other countries too but as a typical english speaking arrogant member of the united states...I'm going with "AMERICAN"(fuck yeah).
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
miseiler
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1389 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-26 17:22:11
August 26 2009 17:21 GMT
#23
On August 27 2009 02:18 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Well it is advertised as the number one english speaking website.

So its either british or American :D You pick your posion!

I guess it could be a lot of other countries too but as a typical english speaking arrogant member of the united states...I'm going with "AMERICAN"(fuck yeah).




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_where_English_is_an_official_language
"Jinro soo manly wearing only a T-Shirt while the Koreans freeze in their jackets" -- Double_O
"He's from Sweden, man. We have to fight polar bears on our way to school." -- Yusername
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
August 26 2009 17:21 GMT
#24
Great stuff, TL represents. ^_^
觀過斯知仁矣.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 26 2009 17:21 GMT
#25
Haha!! PGR21 Fighting

TL + PGR21 yO!
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9104 Posts
August 26 2009 17:28 GMT
#26
On August 27 2009 01:41 konadora wrote:
There were even commentaries. Because the main purpose was to enjoy themselves, there were lots of vulgar chatting going on, as well as physical activities which were all very fun.


lol! nice post, It's cool that the Korean side sees the foreigner side exists.
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
August 26 2009 17:29 GMT
#27
On August 27 2009 02:28 Jonoman92 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2009 01:41 konadora wrote:
There were even commentaries. Because the main purpose was to enjoy themselves, there were lots of vulgar chatting going on, as well as physical activities which were all very fun.


lol! nice post, It's cool that the Korean side sees the foreigner side exists.

During the ret/incontrol match, inc jumped up and tackled ret off his chair...then they had a man hug to say sorry haha.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-26 17:39:54
August 26 2009 17:30 GMT
#28
On August 27 2009 02:21 miseiler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2009 02:18 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Well it is advertised as the number one english speaking website.

So its either british or American :D You pick your posion!

I guess it could be a lot of other countries too but as a typical english speaking arrogant member of the united states...I'm going with "AMERICAN"(fuck yeah).




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_where_English_is_an_official_language

Try reading my whole post than getting a sense of humor

Didnt realize the United States was now part of Romania.

In case that wasn't clear I was freaking kidding. Note how I openly mock american arrogance(and myself?). I even made an obscure Team America World Police reference Which is essentially a big long mockery of american foreign policy/arrogance/ego centralism during the bush administration...with puppets!
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
August 26 2009 17:32 GMT
#29
On August 27 2009 02:15 Carnac wrote:
Someone please explain to them that TL is not an American site :p

I'm going to tell them everything from TL is handmade from Canada

WHAT NOW MODS?!?
dats racist
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
August 26 2009 17:32 GMT
#30
On August 27 2009 01:50 konadora wrote:
is Edwin fantacist? I remember he was banned lol

That's not my real name, my real name is hard to spell/remember so I am not hurt by his not remembering me. Nada spelled my name wrong on my shirt even T_T. Don't think he was talking about me though, don't know how he would know I was banned o_O. I have this though n_n

[image loading]

Timeless ^

Lol@Kennigit's face.
Peace~
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-26 17:34:54
August 26 2009 17:34 GMT
#31
On August 27 2009 02:32 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2009 02:15 Carnac wrote:
Someone please explain to them that TL is not an American site :p

I'm going to tell them everything from TL is handmade from Canada

WHAT NOW MODS?!?

So everything from TL is maple syrup and weed? Also possibly bacon?
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
August 26 2009 17:35 GMT
#32
That's a great read, I'm glad they can see how passionate and fun TL people are about Starcraft. Again, amazing job TL for putting this together, certainly highlight of blizzcon (which is saying a lot).
Chance favors the prepared mind.
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
August 26 2009 18:18 GMT
#33
What the fuck was i doing to my mouth?
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
August 26 2009 18:31 GMT
#34
lol TL is American
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
August 26 2009 18:33 GMT
#35
On August 27 2009 03:18 Kennigit wrote:
What the fuck was i doing to my mouth?

That's how you usually talk tbh.
Peace~
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
August 26 2009 18:35 GMT
#36
Cameron = aers?
o_x | Ow. | 1003 ESPORTS dollars | If you have any questions about bans please PM Kennigit
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
August 26 2009 18:39 GMT
#37
TL's awesomness strikes again.
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
August 26 2009 18:59 GMT
#38
TL = American w00t :D
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-26 19:17:20
August 26 2009 19:15 GMT
#39
kOre is EDWIN!!! I did the interviews with sAviOr and sKyHigH and then LosingID8 saved my ass because I couldn't translate the interviews for Zero and NaDa (my korean is decent but not good enough ).

Oh and a long time ago I was banned from TL by Kennegit, Hotbid, etc but we are all cool now lol
http://www.starcraftmecca.net - Founder
uglymoose89
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States671 Posts
August 26 2009 19:23 GMT
#40
woooo, props to our TLPD and its really nice that we get recognized by pgr and given such high praise.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
August 26 2009 23:55 GMT
#41
On August 27 2009 03:18 Kennigit wrote:
What the fuck was i doing to my mouth?

lool hahaa
POGGERS
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
August 27 2009 00:07 GMT
#42
So awesome. :D

It was really nice talking with Sam (Timeless), and I really hope he gets a chance to go to Blizzcon again next year, or that I get a chance to go to Korea some day. Definitely a top notch guy, and I'd love to speak with him again.
#1 Shuttle fan - TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #36 BW4lyfe
aers *
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1210 Posts
August 27 2009 00:12 GMT
#43
On August 27 2009 03:35 mikeymoo wrote:
Cameron = aers?


Yap.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
August 27 2009 00:12 GMT
#44
:3
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kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
August 27 2009 00:17 GMT
#45
On August 27 2009 02:12 Kennigit wrote:
No, Edwin is kurotoss from sc2gg. He's actually much cooler in real life than i gave him credit (banned) for online haha. Actually all those sc2gg kids were cool cats.

thats right im cool and now you all know it hahaha
http://www.starcraftmecca.net - Founder
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
August 27 2009 00:20 GMT
#46
So cool he can fall asleep at the dinner table without anyone laughing at him. :D
#1 Shuttle fan - TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #36 BW4lyfe
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
August 27 2009 00:41 GMT
#47
On August 27 2009 09:12 aers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2009 03:35 mikeymoo wrote:
Cameron = aers?


Yap.


Cool. Someone with the same name as me :D.
sAviOr...
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
August 27 2009 00:42 GMT
#48
On August 27 2009 09:20 So no fek wrote:
So cool he can fall asleep at the dinner table without anyone laughing at him. :D

I believe I was running on like 5 hours of sleep for like the past 3 days ... =.=
http://www.starcraftmecca.net - Founder
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
August 27 2009 00:54 GMT
#49
major props to TL. gettin' the word out.

blizzcon was in USA, so they probably thought that TL was american-based
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
zeppelin
Profile Joined December 2007
United States565 Posts
August 27 2009 00:54 GMT
#50
what are the netizens saying in the comments?
aers *
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1210 Posts
August 27 2009 02:19 GMT
#51
On August 27 2009 09:20 So no fek wrote:
So cool he can fall asleep at the dinner table without anyone laughing at him. :D


Wait he fell asleep? Damn, I didn't even notice..
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 27 2009 02:27 GMT
#52
ahaha that's so cool
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25987 Posts
August 27 2009 18:51 GMT
#53
Need netizen translations please haha!!

The article was interesting, thanks for translating it
Moderator
StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
August 27 2009 19:03 GMT
#54
Man I love this kinda intermingling between the scenes. PGR21 FIGHTIIING!
RyanS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States620 Posts
August 27 2009 19:07 GMT
#55
I wonder if they talk about the Bisu face and things like that over on their forum.
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2750 Posts
August 28 2009 11:05 GMT
#56
This is so cool :D I'm kinda suprised they didnt know about TL by now, since people have been waving signs during televized matches for a long time ^^
disco
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Netherlands1667 Posts
August 28 2009 11:10 GMT
#57
On August 27 2009 02:29 Kennigit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2009 02:28 Jonoman92 wrote:
On August 27 2009 01:41 konadora wrote:
There were even commentaries. Because the main purpose was to enjoy themselves, there were lots of vulgar chatting going on, as well as physical activities which were all very fun.


lol! nice post, It's cool that the Korean side sees the foreigner side exists.

During the ret/incontrol match, inc jumped up and tackled ret off his chair...then they had a man hug to say sorry haha.


Please tell me there is some video footage of this!
this game is a fucking jokie
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
August 28 2009 11:21 GMT
#58
i doubt u'd get fanbase this passionate and fun in other video-games, one of the reason y i love starcraft!
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