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ImNotBisu
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada142 Posts
August 03 2009 20:55 GMT
#1
Because this is such a lopsided match-up between a monstrous team and one mortal man (Bisu>Fantasy>Hyuk>Orion>Jaedong), and it will be a bloodthirsty slaughter that will engender the mass suicide of millions of silly Oz fanboys.

There is, absolutely, no way in hell SKT could possibly lose. SKT is a team that has one of the best lineups out of all the teams, if not the best, having Best/Bisu/Canata/Fantasy. That's 2 S-Class and 2 A-Class gamers enough to end both days 4-0.

But that's unimportant, at least compared to the fact that unlike the other teams, SKT's got BISU and FANTASY. 2 sexy beastly machines that I call Jaedong Snipers. No, not snipers, because they don't need to practice unusual builds to catch Jaedong offguard, they can just play straight-up standard games and come out victorious.

Now, there's that combined 10% possibility we might see a bisu/fantasy vs jaedong normal ace match on one of the days, in order for that to happen not only do we need to have the SKT failzergs fail harder than usual, we also need players like Bisu/Fantasy/Best fail epically against the likes of Perfectman/Hiya/Lomo... yah, things look just fantastic for Oz.

If the matches somehow do go to ace and Jaedong manages to win against fantasy/bisu (50%), it would go to super ace in which case it would be again bisu/fantasy vs jaedong, in which case I would only give Jaedong 30% chance to win as he has to practice against both T and P while Bisu/Fantasy have known for ages that they'd be eventually playing Jaedong. Bisu/Fantasy have had almost nothing to do but practice against Oz, so 30% x 50% x 10% and we have a proleague finals with winning percentage for Oz at 1.5%.

Shh I know the math isn't quite right, but my point is conveyed.

For the sake of the lives of lots and lots of humans, oh Kespa, please cancel the Shinhan Proleague Finals for 2009. Thanks.
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
August 03 2009 20:59 GMT
#2
What the fuck

Why cancel it, SKT needs shiny trophies. Besides, even though Oz lacks depth, they got to the finals. You're making little sense for a SKT1 fan btw
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
cunninglinguists
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States925 Posts
August 03 2009 21:00 GMT
#3
On August 04 2009 05:59 FirstBorn wrote:
What the fuck

Why cancel it, SKT needs shiny trophies. Besides, even though Oz lacks depth, they got to the finals. You're making little sense for a SKT1 fan btw

hahahahahahahaha. oh romania.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
August 03 2009 21:00 GMT
#4
Shit happens, let them play. Effort was able to triple kill Samsung in one day, and since Jaedong is about twice as good as Effort, he has the capability to do the same as well. Never count out a team until it's over.

As long as two of Jaedong's teammates step up (Very likely as they're playing Failzergs), then Jaedong has the ability to carry their entire team.
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Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-03 21:01:18
August 03 2009 21:00 GMT
#5
nice flame bait, lets see if it will work.
edit:oh it did, already
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Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-03 21:04:35
August 03 2009 21:03 GMT
#6
I thought this forum was smarter than this. You tried really hard to be funny and failed.


When Skt1 fanboys think you went to far you probably have.
Royal2384
Profile Joined April 2009
United States84 Posts
August 03 2009 21:05 GMT
#7
On August 04 2009 06:00 Roffles wrote:
Shit happens, let them play. Effort was able to triple kill Samsung in one day, and since Jaedong is about twice as good as Effort, he has the capability to do the same as well. Never count out a team until it's over.

As long as two of Jaedong's teammates step up (Very likely as they're playing Failzergs), then Jaedong has the ability to carry their entire team.


jaedong is definately not twice as good as effort... effort is easily the #2 zerg right now
The Cake is a Lie
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
August 03 2009 21:07 GMT
#8
oh shit I'm such a newb, I need some sleep
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CoL_DarkstaR
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany649 Posts
August 03 2009 21:07 GMT
#9
I want you banned if we see Oz win.

+ Show Spoiler +
And we will.
User11
Profile Joined June 2005
Canada481 Posts
August 03 2009 21:08 GMT
#10
On August 04 2009 05:55 ImNotBisu wrote:
Because this is such a lopsided match-up between a monstrous team and one mortal man (Bisu>Fantasy>Hyuk>Orion>Jaedong), and it will be a bloodthirsty slaughter that will engender the mass suicide of millions of silly Oz fanboys.

There is, absolutely, no way in hell SKT could possibly lose. SKT is a team that has one of the best lineups out of all the teams, if not the best, having Best/Bisu/Canata/Fantasy. That's 2 S-Class and 2 A-Class gamers enough to end both days 4-0.

But that's unimportant, at least compared to the fact that unlike the other teams, SKT's got BISU and FANTASY. 2 sexy beastly machines that I call Jaedong Snipers. No, not snipers, because they don't need to practice unusual builds to catch Jaedong offguard, they can just play straight-up standard games and come out victorious.

Now, there's that combined 10% possibility we might see a bisu/fantasy vs jaedong normal ace match on one of the days, in order for that to happen not only do we need to have the SKT failzergs fail harder than usual, we also need players like Bisu/Fantasy/Best fail epically against the likes of Perfectman/Hiya/Lomo... yah, things look just fantastic for Oz.

If the matches somehow do go to ace and Jaedong manages to win against fantasy/bisu (50%), it would go to super ace in which case it would be again bisu/fantasy vs jaedong, in which case I would only give Jaedong 30% chance to win as he has to practice against both T and P while Bisu/Fantasy have known for ages that they'd be eventually playing Jaedong. Bisu/Fantasy have had almost nothing to do but practice against Oz, so 30% x 50% x 10% and we have a proleague finals with winning percentage for Oz at 1.5%.

Shh I know the math isn't quite right, but my point is conveyed.

For the sake of the lives of lots and lots of humans, oh Kespa, please cancel the Shinhan Proleague Finals for 2009. Thanks.



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keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
August 03 2009 21:08 GMT
#11
On August 04 2009 06:05 Royal2384 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2009 06:00 Roffles wrote:
Shit happens, let them play. Effort was able to triple kill Samsung in one day, and since Jaedong is about twice as good as Effort, he has the capability to do the same as well. Never count out a team until it's over.

As long as two of Jaedong's teammates step up (Very likely as they're playing Failzergs), then Jaedong has the ability to carry their entire team.


jaedong is definately not twice as good as effort... effort is easily the #2 zerg right now


It is true Effort is the #2 zerg... JD is still twice as good. (see elo)

The matchups look good for Oz. I wouldn't count them out at all.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
August 03 2009 21:10 GMT
#12
silly oz fans and bitter people jealous of t1, you will all be crying in a few days
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B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-03 21:26:18
August 03 2009 21:11 GMT
#13
On August 04 2009 05:55 ImNotBisu wrote:
Because this is such a lopsided match-up between one monstrous man and a mortal team (Jaedong>Yellow>Bisu>Fantasy>Canata), and it will be a bloodthirsty slaughter that will engender the mass suicide of millions of silly SKT1 fanboys.

There is, absolutely, no way in hell Oz could possibly lose. Oz is a team that has one of the best lineups out of all the teams, if not the best, having Jaedong/PirateZerg/MustacheZerg/OzsucksballswithoutmeZerg. That's 4 S-Class gamers enough to end both days 4-0.

But that's unimportant, at least compared to the fact that unlike the other teams, Oz's got Jaedong and OzsucksballswithoutmeZerg. 2 sexy beastly machines that I call Bisu/Fantasy Snipers. No, not snipers, because they don't need to practice unusual builds to catch Bisu/Fantasy offguard, they can just play straight-up standard games and come out victorious.

Now, there's that combined 10% possibility we might see a jaedong normal vs bisu/fantasy ace match on one of the days, in order for that to happen not only do we need to have the Oz failmo/failho/failya fail harder than usual, we also need players like Jaedong/PirateZerg fail epically against the likes of Best/TheZerg/Canata/Hyuk... yah, things look just fantastic for SKT1.

If the matches somehow do go to ace and fantasy/bisu manages to win against Jaedong (0%), it would go to super ace in which case it would be again jaedong vs bisu/fantasy, in which case I would only give bisu/fantasy -9000% chance to win as they have to practice against J while Jaedong has known for ages that he'd be eventually playing P, T, or Z. Jaedong have had almost nothing to do in his sleep but practice against SKT1, so 10% x 0% x -9000% and we have a proleague finals with winning percentage for SKT1 at 0%.

Shh I know the math isn't quite right, but my point is conveyed.

For the sake of the lives of lots and lots of humans, oh Kespa, please cancel the Shinhan Proleague Finals for 2009. Thanks.


fixed
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-03 21:12:29
August 03 2009 21:12 GMT
#14
Can we just ban every SKT fan on the website for a couple of hours if they lose?
Such arrogance...
Jaedong
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
August 03 2009 21:13 GMT
#15
On August 04 2009 06:12 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Can we just ban every SKT fan on the website for a couple of hours if they lose?
Such arrogance...

no, but I can ban you for shitz & giggles
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Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
August 03 2009 21:14 GMT
#16
On August 04 2009 05:55 ImNotBisu wrote:
Because this is such a lopsided match-up between a monstrous team and one mortal man (Bisu>Fantasy>Hyuk>Orion>Jaedong), and it will be a bloodthirsty slaughter that will engender the mass suicide of millions of silly Oz fanboys.

There is, absolutely, no way in hell SKT could possibly lose. SKT is a team that has one of the best lineups out of all the teams, if not the best, having Best/Bisu/Canata/Fantasy. That's 2 S-Class and 2 A-Class gamers enough to end both days 4-0.

But that's unimportant, at least compared to the fact that unlike the other teams, SKT's got BISU and FANTASY. 2 sexy beastly machines that I call Jaedong Snipers. No, not snipers, because they don't need to practice unusual builds to catch Jaedong offguard, they can just play straight-up standard games and come out victorious.

Now, there's that combined 10% possibility we might see a bisu/fantasy vs jaedong normal ace match on one of the days, in order for that to happen not only do we need to have the SKT failzergs fail harder than usual, we also need players like Bisu/Fantasy/Best fail epically against the likes of Perfectman/Hiya/Lomo... yah, things look just fantastic for Oz.

If the matches somehow do go to ace and Jaedong manages to win against fantasy/bisu (50%), it would go to super ace in which case it would be again bisu/fantasy vs jaedong, in which case I would only give Jaedong 30% chance to win as he has to practice against both T and P while Bisu/Fantasy have known for ages that they'd be eventually playing Jaedong. Bisu/Fantasy have had almost nothing to do but practice against Oz, so 30% x 50% x 10% and we have a proleague finals with winning percentage for Oz at 1.5%.

Shh I know the math isn't quite right, but my point is conveyed.

For the sake of the lives of lots and lots of humans, oh Kespa, please cancel the Shinhan Proleague Finals for 2009. Thanks.


I don't get why SKT fans throw out Best as some superb pillar of awesomeness for their team. He's slumped like a pure sack of shit for the better part of '09.
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
August 03 2009 21:14 GMT
#17
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TealLurker
Profile Joined June 2008
United States791 Posts
August 03 2009 21:14 GMT
#18
Can they just make it 2 Bo7's of Jaedong vs. Bisu with Super Ace being more Jaedong vs. Bisu?
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
August 03 2009 21:14 GMT
#19
On August 04 2009 06:08 keV. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2009 06:05 Royal2384 wrote:
On August 04 2009 06:00 Roffles wrote:
Shit happens, let them play. Effort was able to triple kill Samsung in one day, and since Jaedong is about twice as good as Effort, he has the capability to do the same as well. Never count out a team until it's over.

As long as two of Jaedong's teammates step up (Very likely as they're playing Failzergs), then Jaedong has the ability to carry their entire team.


jaedong is definately not twice as good as effort... effort is easily the #2 zerg right now


It is true Effort is the #2 zerg... JD is still twice as good. (see elo)

The matchups look good for Oz. I wouldn't count them out at all.


Jaedong at 3224.5 is just ridiculous, especially since Bisu is only 2510.3 and Fantasy is only 2051.3
Sullifam
cHicKeLoR
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany559 Posts
August 03 2009 21:15 GMT
#20
even if it may be one sided. It is a final and everything can happen. SKT or Oz - I think both have a shot.
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