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Since death is the ultimate proof of a townies innocence, it's obvious that none of their posts should have any mafia bias. So anything posted by a dead townie will go here.
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This is a section where I try to summarize the main topic(s) being discussed currently in a way that if you miss like 5 pages you might get a brief understanding of what people are talking about now.
fusionsdf is trying to convince the town that we need to lynch inactive people to encourage more participation so that
a) mafia are forced to discuss clues which may cause them to accidentally incriminate themselves or a teammate.
b) if everyone participates then the mafia won't be able to easily target central figures.
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On November 03 2008 00:07 fusionsdf wrote:
here is the list of people who have not yet posted since the game started:
1. imDerek
3. Jimtudor
4. decafchicken
5. Camlito
8. mikeymoo
9. MTF
10. clazziquai
13. Chezinu
14. nemY
15. xDark.Carnivalx
16. Empyrean
18. RtS)Night[Mare
19. araav
20. JeeJee
21. SoleSteeler
23. ~OpZ~
25. Mynock
26. iNfuNdiBuLuM
27. Ace
28. MidnightGladius
29. Bockit
30. Folca
32. goldenkrnboi
33. Yogurt
35. ShadowDrgn
36. ulszz
37. KH1031
38. Amber[LighT]
39. Fishball
41. Artanis[Xp]
42. ZBiR
44. KF91
45. FakeSteve[TPR]
47. HeRoS)Pink
48. Mandalor
50. G.s)NarutO
there are some people I left on who have posted, but there posts were joke posts or didnt contibute anything
If your name is on this list, post!
here is the list of people who have not yet posted since the game started:
1. imDerek
3. Jimtudor
4. decafchicken
5. Camlito
8. mikeymoo
9. MTF
10. clazziquai
13. Chezinu
14. nemY
15. xDark.Carnivalx
16. Empyrean
18. RtS)Night[Mare
19. araav
20. JeeJee
21. SoleSteeler
23. ~OpZ~
25. Mynock
26. iNfuNdiBuLuM
27. Ace
28. MidnightGladius
29. Bockit
30. Folca
32. goldenkrnboi
33. Yogurt
35. ShadowDrgn
36. ulszz
37. KH1031
38. Amber[LighT]
39. Fishball
41. Artanis[Xp]
42. ZBiR
44. KF91
45. FakeSteve[TPR]
47. HeRoS)Pink
48. Mandalor
50. G.s)NarutO
there are some people I left on who have posted, but there posts were joke posts or didnt contibute anything
If your name is on this list, post!
Also Ace has come up with another plan to help organize the town around a central figure(s). However this plan involves sacrificing a DT to role check the Vet or Jack. fanatacist seems to be against lynching the DT and instead lynching the accused, however most people seem to be in favor of the original plan Ace posted here.
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On November 03 2008 00:37 Ace wrote:
My first plan
With no Mayor, Pardoners and bodyguards we already know that we can't look to anyone for guidance. Of course, assuming some of the people with certain roles are going to take leadership positions - we really don't have to. Who am I talking about?
Vets and Jack of All Trades.
Why these 2?
When the mafia hit someone and they don't die 1 of 2 things happens:
A.) They are a Vet, and just lose a life
B.) They are a protected by a medic, in which the medic gets a notification
C.) the smart medic informs the person they were targeted, hoping it wasn't a vigi hitting mafia
What we are interested in is A. When the mafia realizes their kill hasn't gone through, they have to assume it's A or B. HOWEVER, in this game when no one trusts anyone else off the bat - what would you assume? How can a medic find the right target to protect so early? Or what IF the medic did find the right target?
The mafia have NO way of finding out.
That target speaks up. Dts check and no DTs speak up ensuring the guy is legit.
Now the mafia have a problem. All the medics and Jacks can PM this guy. He on the other hand can tell them not to prot him or can ask them and all the Jacks to prot him making him invincible from mafia hits.
THIS IS THE KEY! Remember the mafia STILL don't know this guy's role.
Now the town has a leader, a very big target that may or may not be protected. And they want to use their suicide bomber on him. They dont know if he is being ultra protected or not, if he's a Jack or a Vet and how many lives he has.
If the suicide bomber FAILS, the medics are all alive, he dies but NOW at least one of the DTs can come forward and be protected by all the Medics and Jacks. From here we now have a system where in 1 person is the "leader" but can't be easily killed.
As always, I'm sure this plan can be rectified. Give feedback please.
My first plan
With no Mayor, Pardoners and bodyguards we already know that we can't look to anyone for guidance. Of course, assuming some of the people with certain roles are going to take leadership positions - we really don't have to. Who am I talking about?
Vets and Jack of All Trades.
Why these 2?
When the mafia hit someone and they don't die 1 of 2 things happens:
A.) They are a Vet, and just lose a life
B.) They are a protected by a medic, in which the medic gets a notification
C.) the smart medic informs the person they were targeted, hoping it wasn't a vigi hitting mafia
What we are interested in is A. When the mafia realizes their kill hasn't gone through, they have to assume it's A or B. HOWEVER, in this game when no one trusts anyone else off the bat - what would you assume? How can a medic find the right target to protect so early? Or what IF the medic did find the right target?
The mafia have NO way of finding out.
That target speaks up. Dts check and no DTs speak up ensuring the guy is legit.
Now the mafia have a problem. All the medics and Jacks can PM this guy. He on the other hand can tell them not to prot him or can ask them and all the Jacks to prot him making him invincible from mafia hits.
THIS IS THE KEY! Remember the mafia STILL don't know this guy's role.
Now the town has a leader, a very big target that may or may not be protected. And they want to use their suicide bomber on him. They dont know if he is being ultra protected or not, if he's a Jack or a Vet and how many lives he has.
If the suicide bomber FAILS, the medics are all alive, he dies but NOW at least one of the DTs can come forward and be protected by all the Medics and Jacks. From here we now have a system where in 1 person is the "leader" but can't be easily killed.
As always, I'm sure this plan can be rectified. Give feedback please.
If anyone knows of any more important posts relating to this topic please post here or PM me.
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Everything from Detective's lists, to random lists of suspects or innocents.
Araav's full list of player profiles (good for general sleuthing)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=80975¤tpage=All#292
Fana's full list of player profiles (good for more detailed searching)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=81500
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Self explanatory. Links to where people give their insight into what certain clues might point to
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On November 03 2008 00:36 Plexa wrote:
Carrying on with the "last meal" train of thought (which i think is pretty solid) leads to Caller entering the spotlight.
"NO IM KAWAIIRICE" could easily be extrapolated to the idea of a last meal without bending things too much (similar to mafia clues last game). Obviously if we see clues in the future relating to cuteness or food caller definitely needs to be examined closer
Carrying on with the "last meal" train of thought (which i think is pretty solid) leads to Caller entering the spotlight.
"NO IM KAWAIIRICE" could easily be extrapolated to the idea of a last meal without bending things too much (similar to mafia clues last game). Obviously if we see clues in the future relating to cuteness or food caller definitely needs to be examined closer
On November 02 2008 20:07 Plexa wrote:
I have a few people in mind, maybe ill have the time to type something comprehensive up but
Gets me thinking..
Just seem soo soo similar =/ either
a) Empy has a special role (vigil perhaps?) and has found his way into the clues
b) Empy is mafia trying to persuade the town
c) This could be way way too obvious
Decaf also seems like a prime candidate - almost given to us on a plate as was queasy last game. Perhaps it's better to keep his lynch for later when we have no idea what do to as killing him down doesn't hurt the mafia at all.
I have a few people in mind, maybe ill have the time to type something comprehensive up but
Gets me thinking..
Just seem soo soo similar =/ either
a) Empy has a special role (vigil perhaps?) and has found his way into the clues
b) Empy is mafia trying to persuade the town
c) This could be way way too obvious
Decaf also seems like a prime candidate - almost given to us on a plate as was queasy last game. Perhaps it's better to keep his lynch for later when we have no idea what do to as killing him down doesn't hurt the mafia at all.
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On November 02 2008 23:11 Falcynn wrote:
Not sure what this first one can point to, but it stuck out to me for some reason.
Just pointing out specific snippets that I think may be of use in clue deciphering. Unfortunately I'll be out all day today so I won't get into much discussion (omg I must be mafia since I want to avoid talking with you guys har har).
Not sure what this first one can point to, but it stuck out to me for some reason.
Just pointing out specific snippets that I think may be of use in clue deciphering. Unfortunately I'll be out all day today so I won't get into much discussion (omg I must be mafia since I want to avoid talking with you guys har har).
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On November 02 2008 23:21 Caller wrote:
Caller's list of people with profiles and stuff vaguely linked to the day clues
9. MTF (weak)
[The self-righteously ignorant are the only ones who ever truly believe they've got everything figured out.]
"Making the first public mafia lynch will inspire hope in everyone while striking fear into the mafia was the reasoning behind this", stated the Governor
16: Fusionsdf: (weak)
“In school, I was the kid who sat in the back of the class and hid behind his book, the one you felt bad for, but not bad enough to do something. People always told me, "Jack, you need to smile more." Perhaps I was a bit on the sulky side, but was it any of their business whether I smiled or not? Well one day, these kids invite me to a party. Of course, I'm ecstatic. Well, being my first time at a party, it's my first time drinking. Long story short... I pass out. And wake up in the emergency room. My face is burning, and it turns out that they really did just want to see me smile. One of those ass holes decided to draw on my face with a permanent marker, and I had a pretty severe allergy to some of the things in those markers. But now, at least nobody has to remind me to smile.”
Many in the crowd were excessively enthusiastic about the lynching and many were grave and quiet.
18. RtS)Night[Mare(very weak)
Pain makes one suffer.
Suffering makes one think.
Thinking makes one wise.
And Wisdom makes life bearable.
Pleading for someone to review the evidence he claimed his innocence as he was pushed further on
21. SoleSteeler(weak)
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold
A few people didn't know what was going on but a riot broke out quickly.
22. aZnvaLiaNce (weak to moderate)
"Whoever wins, the battle does not end. The loser is set free from the battlefield, while the winner must remain there. And the survivor will live out his life as the warrior until the day he dies." -Big Boss aka Naked Snake
"Embrace the release that death brings you", he stated as he pulled the switch
28. MidnightGladius (weak)
["It's time to acknowledge the inevitable. Stifle your pride and embrace the glory of change." - Volrath Ishnikar, the Faithless General]
"Embrace the release that death brings you", he stated as he pulled the switch
34. Scorch (weak)
What? The land of the free? Whoever told you that is your enemy.
the general anarachist theme of this entire day
43. Plexa (weak)
[~ Spirit will set you free ~ Pusan fighting!]
"Embrace the release that death brings you", he stated as he pulled the switch
48. Mandalor (really weak)
No reason at all other than he’s suspicious and not talking as usual, just like in the other game. Hmmdehmm….
Caller's list of people with profiles and stuff vaguely linked to the day clues
9. MTF (weak)
[The self-righteously ignorant are the only ones who ever truly believe they've got everything figured out.]
"Making the first public mafia lynch will inspire hope in everyone while striking fear into the mafia was the reasoning behind this", stated the Governor
16: Fusionsdf: (weak)
“In school, I was the kid who sat in the back of the class and hid behind his book, the one you felt bad for, but not bad enough to do something. People always told me, "Jack, you need to smile more." Perhaps I was a bit on the sulky side, but was it any of their business whether I smiled or not? Well one day, these kids invite me to a party. Of course, I'm ecstatic. Well, being my first time at a party, it's my first time drinking. Long story short... I pass out. And wake up in the emergency room. My face is burning, and it turns out that they really did just want to see me smile. One of those ass holes decided to draw on my face with a permanent marker, and I had a pretty severe allergy to some of the things in those markers. But now, at least nobody has to remind me to smile.”
Many in the crowd were excessively enthusiastic about the lynching and many were grave and quiet.
18. RtS)Night[Mare(very weak)
Pain makes one suffer.
Suffering makes one think.
Thinking makes one wise.
And Wisdom makes life bearable.
Pleading for someone to review the evidence he claimed his innocence as he was pushed further on
21. SoleSteeler(weak)
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold
A few people didn't know what was going on but a riot broke out quickly.
22. aZnvaLiaNce (weak to moderate)
"Whoever wins, the battle does not end. The loser is set free from the battlefield, while the winner must remain there. And the survivor will live out his life as the warrior until the day he dies." -Big Boss aka Naked Snake
"Embrace the release that death brings you", he stated as he pulled the switch
28. MidnightGladius (weak)
["It's time to acknowledge the inevitable. Stifle your pride and embrace the glory of change." - Volrath Ishnikar, the Faithless General]
"Embrace the release that death brings you", he stated as he pulled the switch
34. Scorch (weak)
What? The land of the free? Whoever told you that is your enemy.
the general anarachist theme of this entire day
43. Plexa (weak)
[~ Spirit will set you free ~ Pusan fighting!]
"Embrace the release that death brings you", he stated as he pulled the switch
48. Mandalor (really weak)
No reason at all other than he’s suspicious and not talking as usual, just like in the other game. Hmmdehmm….
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On November 02 2008 23:40 Lenwe wrote:
Things that stood out for me in the post, but it is too early to link them to people right now.
As for the first day lynching, someone inactive is probably a good idea, since as the town we won't loose anything. This will force mafia to help us with clue analyzing. Also, the more people that are active, the harder it get's for the mafia to choose the right targets and if they are forced into activity they might make some mistakes.
Things that stood out for me in the post, but it is too early to link them to people right now.
As for the first day lynching, someone inactive is probably a good idea, since as the town we won't loose anything. This will force mafia to help us with clue analyzing. Also, the more people that are active, the harder it get's for the mafia to choose the right targets and if they are forced into activity they might make some mistakes.
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As the name implies, clue interpretations regarding previous days.
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