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Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-28 00:51:35
May 28 2007 00:48 GMT
#1
Inspirited by Hotbid....

As I am writing this, I should be doing homework. A frequent and most welcome problem that has not changed over the past five years: why do homework when you can browse TL? I'm sure Haji agrees.

A lot of suggestions have been made to put Teamliquid's history on paper. Where did it begin? How did it develop? Who helped shape it into the wonderful place that it is? We always conclude that this is very hard to do, considering TL is an old site and doing the story justice would be troublesome to say the least. Not to forget, that deep down inside, most of us are a bunch of lazy bastards leeching off the truly great.

I can however tell you my story. I'll try to keep it short and to the point, but I always stray and associate.

I remember, and now we are speaking 5 years ago, a very old TL site, before this one was forged. With no more than a couple of posts a day, if lucky, it wasn't anything compared to todays magnitude. I posted a little. Most of the topics were about Nazgul if I'm not mistaken. He was a rising star and, seemingly, a charismatic fellow; Nazgul has always been a man of morals and values. I don't remember much, besides it being hard to see if there were any new posts. Haha.

Five years ago I played a lot of StarCraft. My passion for StarCraft began many many years ago on LAN with my real life friends. The computer kept nuking us to death, so I trained and trained till I could beat the ai. I felt such a sense of accomplishment the first time. I will never forget it. Not to mention how awesome the UMS 'Protoss Temple' was. Oh God, the memories.

Most of my active StarCraft days I spent in the same clan as my real life friend, aka 'Mr_Battlenet', Twisted and his brother. We played a lot together. [pR] [iR] Man_Clan. It was splendid. I was actually very decent at it, too.

Mr_Battlenet cheated, Erwin. I did not however. I like morals and values.

I have always been perfectionist and back then I vigorously hated losing. StarCraft really has never been a game for me, I'm better suited for Warcraft III; It is impossible to to reach a pleasant state of perfection in our beloved game. Not being able to see why exactly I lost. Grrrrrrrr. Grubby would agree. The amazingness of this game pulled me in though, and it still does, even if I don't play.

Wanting to do something for the community, specifically the Dutch community, I started working as a newswriter for a site called Deathstrike.nl. Their forum was populated by the (imature) Dutch scene. After covering the foreign news singlehandedly for a couple of months, I was contacted by Nazgul. He told me about his plans to create a new TeamLiquid site. It would contain all sorts of StarCraft news. He wanted me to post foreign news. This might be new information to a lot of the current Teamliquidians: at first this site was meant to cover the non Korean scene as well. I declined, remaining Loyal to the small Deathstrike site. I was thankful for the opportunity they gave me; it would feel like betrayal. Luckilly after a while, inspired by the immature Dutch community on that forum, not to mention my own immaturity, I got banned there.

In the meantime, Teamliquid emerged from the ashes. I registered here as user #6 on 9-23-2002 at 00:41:50. At first I just posted, not even a lot. I immedietly liked it here though. It felt like something potentially awesome.

Teamliquid expanded quickly. I don't even know why. I suppose it got covered by other sites? The statistics of the first four days are as following:
2002-11-24, 1303
2002-11-23, 987
2002-11-22, 623
2002-11-21, 7

Great users such as Mensrea, Waxangel and Meat forged Teamliquid into a beautiful site covering a scene which before wasn't really properly covered for non-Koreans: the Korean scene. These people really put their mark on TL and even if they rarely ever post, they are surely not forgotten.

About half a year after TL's creation, I was asked to write polls for TL. Topic. I guess this was asked shortly after the WCG 2002. Here I proudly won a vacuum cleaner and gave Twisted a rose to conclude years of online love.

My passion has always been the General Forum. I have made a total of 560 threads and about 50% of my posts are in the General Forum. At times though, I would get annoyed by people 'ruining' my threads. I once complained about the quality of the posters - because they were ruining my threads - by creating a thread in Men in Red (staff forum). Nazgul polled me how I would feel to be a moderator, to which I said I liked the idea. He then talked to the others, to which the ever blunt Rekrul created a thread called 'ok naz u were right'. Inside it contained 'b3y for mod!'. Voilá, moderator Beyonder.

One of the things I'm most proud of, is our IRC channel. I truly see it as my little baby. We initiated it August 14th 2004. It originally lived on Gamesurge, but after a while we moved to Quakenet. A shoutout to all the IRC regulars. I love you guys.

During my time as mod I've had my share of drama; I've done good work, I've made mistakes, and I've done things which I'm proud of. It's funny when I realise how much I truly learn and have learned from this site. I genuinely feel that it helps me the - supposedly good - secondary school teacher. I'd do it all over again if I could choose right now.

These days TL is truly massive. We have a solid team of staff, a solid userbase, and a solid site. I'm proud to say that I could contribute to this, even if it is so little compared to most of the big guns: Mani, Saro, Meat, Mensrea, Wax, etc.

Even if I don't play StarCraft and I haven't for quite some long time, I absolutely love TL. It feels like family; it contains so many wonderful characters and never fails at making me smile. I could write so much more and I have so many more thoughts to put down. I however have to play dota soon, and I still need to follow up my homework spree.

- Beyonder

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Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
May 28 2007 00:58 GMT
#2

makes me wish i was around in the olden days to have all this nostalgia
5-star
fanta[Rn]
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Japan2465 Posts
May 28 2007 01:49 GMT
#3
Here I proudly won a vacuum cleaner...
hahahaha
The IRC channel truely is awesome, I love the atmosphere of all the regulars there ^_^. Hugzz~N~Kizzez to all my IRCAS
Cpt Obvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany3073 Posts
May 28 2007 02:54 GMT
#4
So it's Rekrul's fault that you became moderator?

Doesn't surprise me in the least...
Nobody ever reads signatures of people like me, do they?
roadrunner_sc
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1220 Posts
May 28 2007 02:55 GMT
#5
Ah a trip down memory lane. Beyonder's that is.

I wonder how some of the other veterans got involved. If they can all write up something similar it'd be quite interesting.
Average Posts Per Week: 13.37
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4613 Posts
May 28 2007 03:51 GMT
#6
Wow, a half year and TL was only on thread number 4,072. Talk about slow back in the day
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?viewdays=0&show_part=5 <--- Articles Section on TL
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
May 28 2007 07:42 GMT
#7
^_^ nice story
Administrator
mahc
Profile Joined November 2004
United States874 Posts
May 28 2007 14:53 GMT
#8
tl ftw

a question about tl origins, why was the picture of those horses chosen for the banner?
Stygg
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Sweden1100 Posts
May 28 2007 20:28 GMT
#9
Good one. I haven't been here that long but I can imagine it's cool to have seen this place from the beginning. It's my favorite site on the entire internet, lp.net included, and it's cause of all the quality posters that you mentioned. Good story.
wine is fine but whiskey's quicker
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
May 28 2007 22:28 GMT
#10
You didn't give me a rose.



MR_Battlenet cheated? That thought never came on to me though!
Moderator
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9950 Posts
May 28 2007 23:37 GMT
#11
IRC REPRESENT
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
ShabZzoY!
Profile Joined July 2004
Great Britain760 Posts
May 29 2007 02:29 GMT
#12
Beyonder = vin1 ?
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
May 29 2007 05:03 GMT
#13
no.
Moderator
SpaNiarD
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Spain352 Posts
May 30 2007 08:31 GMT
#14
i think TL has a very solid team and is always in the top of SC News researchers. I mean, TL is always the 1st non-korean web page publishing the news, and then other portals (as gg.net and wgtour.com) use your news to publish in their pages. I think you all are doing a good job.

And entropy is the best of all of them ^^ <3 entropy xDDDd
BalloonFight
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States2007 Posts
May 31 2007 06:06 GMT
#15
On May 29 2007 08:37 RaGe wrote:
IRC REPRESENT


HOLLA
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
May 31 2007 06:41 GMT
#16
Well, I was kind of "here" by that time, I never "really" registered and neither posted in English forums, since my control of the language was not very good at the time. Things have changed, and as you said, a lot of the Oldies have left, but they left their mark. A lot of people took things from them, and that is what makes TL so amazing.

I remember one of my friends saying "Mensrea, waxangel and all the tl.net staff did their thing, they set like a "standard" of posting, like you post like this, or either you do not post". I admit, I've been one lazy ass sucker, who, almost all the time, posts 1 liners and things that make no sense. But I still love what they did, and what you do/did.

TL.net rules. I'm not a constant on the IRC channel, but lately I've been trying to be active there. <3 you all gheyz.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
May 31 2007 06:59 GMT
#17
Wow, very good read.

TL got 1303 people in 4 days, staff, layout, and write ups must of been awsome even back then!!
If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
May 31 2007 23:09 GMT
#18
1303 unique visitors
Moderator
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
June 02 2007 05:34 GMT
#19
Yeah buddy. ;D
Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
June 05 2007 03:37 GMT
#20
it was actually .pR. if i remember correclty, not [pR].

.pR.ide and .pR.twisted and i think there was a .pR.agelmech or something like that; those are the onyl ones i remember *_*.

Nice post bey! <3
Happiness only real when shared.
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