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40 midgets vs a lion

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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 25 2012 18:23 GMT
#1
http://www.newturfers.com/mwf/attach/38/355838/BBCNEWSWorldLionMutilates42MidgetsinCambodianRing-Fight.htm

So this is a fake article that circulated in 2005 and got picked up by the british press. You can read about it's history here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_Midget_Fighting_League

So I've borrowed a ruleset... and I would like to ask you who would win.

* Fight takes place between 1 full-grown, male African lion and 40 midgets
* The midgets are unarmed (no guns, baseball bats, tasers, etc.)
* The fight takes place in a closed arena (a racquetball court for example)
* Fight is over when either a) the lion is dead, or b) all 40 midgets are dead or unable to fight back (severely wounded)
* Lion is highly agitated, midgets know there's no way out until the lion is dead (they have to fight)
* The midgets are not specially trained to fight (not like the Cambodian fighting ones in the article) but are in average physical and mental health
* The midgets are given 5 minutes before the fight to prepare/strategize
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Kojak21
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1104 Posts
August 25 2012 18:27 GMT
#2
i think they would win if they all just tried eating and biting the lion alive
¯\_(☺)_/¯
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
August 25 2012 18:29 GMT
#3
Overwhelming numbers would win that any day.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17022 Posts
August 25 2012 18:30 GMT
#4
Easily midgets, but only if they realize that some of them will have to sacrifice themselves so the others can go for more vulnerable regions on the lion.
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e4e5nf3
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada599 Posts
August 25 2012 18:32 GMT
#5
I would play an rts that incorporated this and other bizarre scenarios. I would play it with a huge grin on my face. Oh yes.
King takes Queen
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17022 Posts
August 25 2012 18:41 GMT
#6
By the way, this really doesn't belong in this forum. I'm moving it to blogs.
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Trizz
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands1318 Posts
August 25 2012 18:47 GMT
#7
Easily Lion.
Do you guys even realise how big a grown ass male lion is?
nope
BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
August 25 2012 19:12 GMT
#8
Lion has agility and strength. Midgets are stubby and clumsy - have to give it to the lion easy.
If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.
Kyrillion
Profile Joined August 2011
Russian Federation748 Posts
August 25 2012 19:16 GMT
#9
* The midgets are given 5 minutes before the fight to prepare/strategize


You mean, the ones in the front line sacrifying themselves, will be those who draw...the short straw ?
If you seek well, you shall find.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 25 2012 19:18 GMT
#10
Lions usually hunt in packs. They do have a lot of strength, but they aren't the fastest big cat.

Midgets would be easy to pray on without anything to defend themselves.

Forty? I don't know. Lionesses are usually more aggressive than the males and they do the hunting.

A lion would be able to paw them away pretty easily.

It would be hard to corner the lion but if they were able to do that and Lion loses its will because there are so many then yeah I could see the midgets possibly winning.

If not and there's no coordination in circling the lion they be fucked.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
August 25 2012 20:12 GMT
#11
I don't know who would win, but I would definitely pay to watch such a battle if it actually existed
ruiyang
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
252 Posts
August 25 2012 20:27 GMT
#12
Depends. With good strategy the midgets would win easily. If it were dark and they got suddenly attacked the lion could win easily. Chaos vs organization. Its like romans vs barbarians. If u make 4 lines of 10 midgets and move in a huge deathball theres no way a single lion can kill them all. If they all run around in chaos they die 1 by 1
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
August 25 2012 20:36 GMT
#13
On August 26 2012 03:30 Empyrean wrote:
Easily midgets, but only if they realize that some of them will have to sacrifice themselves so the others can go for more vulnerable regions on the lion.

guess the outcome of the fight will depend on this then. will the team be able to find some members who would be willing to sacrifice themselves? if not, they would probably fail from lack of coordination and teamwork. if they could find some willing to sac themselves.... well to me, that's pretty improbable....

maybe the group will succumb to groupthink and decide to beat up four of the wekest midgets and throw them out as bait for the lion while they set uo and form a ring around the lion to execute their attack.
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
August 25 2012 20:39 GMT
#14
5 minutes? The midgets are so fucked. 40 random people would be hard pressed to form ranks properly in 5 minutes, let alone organizationally equip themselves to fight anything that can easily kill them in seconds.
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ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
August 25 2012 20:44 GMT
#15
Midgets would have to be fearless to win. Unfortunately people usually dont fight for the sake of others.
Jaedong :3
sorrowptoss
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1431 Posts
August 25 2012 20:45 GMT
#16
On August 26 2012 05:12 Chairman Ray wrote:
I don't know who would win, but I would definitely pay to watch such a battle if it actually existed

I bet this is exactly what a Roman emperor once said.

That aside, lion wins. What can midgets do? Kick, punch, yea sure, they are midgets and the average midget leg is 60cm long and the average midget arm is something like 50cm long, which is kind of dangerously close to the lion, and forget biting since they'd have to be at point blank range to do so and the lion would just knock them out with 1 hit.

Also, lions are used to fighting off hyenas after catching a meal, and by hyenas I mean 4-5 of them surround 1 lion. If you substitute 1 hyena for 10 midgets, well then not only are lions used to it but they'll handle it easily.

Also, here's a fully grown African lioness. Beside a NORMAL human male.
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yanot
Profile Joined March 2010
France130 Posts
August 25 2012 20:50 GMT
#17
This is a close fight,

On one hand, 40 midgets is a huge number and the lion will be surrounded completely.

On the other hand, like a big mass roach ball in sc2, most midgets won't have the range to hit the lion and will clump. They also won't be able to hit at the same time, most will have to be idle.

SO i dunno...
Tamburlaine
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada288 Posts
August 25 2012 20:58 GMT
#18
Easily the lion.

40 midgest acting selflessly with one mind like zealots in a deathball could do it, but not 40 individuals trying to protect themselves.
I like things.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
August 25 2012 21:28 GMT
#19
Obviously midgets. Just surround and have them all stand on top of the lion, eventually they'll be too heavy, then proceed to choke to death
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-25 21:29:39
August 25 2012 21:28 GMT
#20
On August 26 2012 05:58 Tamburlaine wrote:
Easily the lion.

40 midgest acting selflessly with one mind like zealots in a deathball could do it, but not 40 individuals trying to protect themselves.

Ok, so mr. Lion decides to cleave some midgets, imagine 5 midgets or so dieing by a few rapid claw movements/bites by the lion. There's 35 trained midgets there who knows the lion dying is the only way to survive, notice the word trained.

Since they also know there's no way out except if they kill the lion there's more than enough surface area to attack the lion on without the lion being able to defend all places at once.

I cannot imagine 40 midgets losing to 1 lion. Maybe 2-3 lions or less midgets to make it more interesting.

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