• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:43
CEST 17:43
KST 00:43
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End7Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7
Community News
Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles2GSTL Returns in 2026!44Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 GSTL Returns in 2026! SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles
Tourneys
Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) 2026 GSTL Announcement PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) WardiTV Mondays 2026 KungFu Cup Announcement
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome Mutation # 538 Media Blackout Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory
Brood War
General
Are you ready for ASL 22? NEW HYPE VIDEO BW General Discussion [ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 SC4ALL II: Brood War Player Announcement 3/4 - soO
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro24 Group C CSLAN 4 is Coming! [ASL22] Ro24 Group A [ASL22] Ro24 Group B
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread The Letting Off Steam Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently...
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Chinese Gen Z: Between Dream…
TrAiDoS
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5021 users

GosuCoaching: Trials and Tribulations... /rant

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 Next All
MacroNcheesE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States508 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 06:58:24
August 24 2010 06:52 GMT
#1
So this is the gist of the situation. I signed up for a big session @ gosucoaching.com, their $195 package. I wanted incontrol to coach me. However, this is in no way a slight towards incontrol or his coaching abilities in any way whatsoever. This is specifically directed towards their management which is extremely bad.

The initial e-mails they sent me were extremely vague, giving no details on how I was supposed to get in touch with my coach or how to set up times or anything with any substance. I talked to Xeris on aim a couple of times and he was helpful for the most part, but most of his help revolved around e-mailing gosucoaching about my problems.

I had a coaching session scheduled on the 18th with incontrol from 3-5pm (I didn't know if this was eastern/central/pacific time, so I was there an hour early and waited until 5:30 pm my time which is central). I aim'd Xeris and he informed me that Incontrol was going to Dubai (a gosucoaching customer flew him out [found this out today] which is pretty lawlz imo due to my situation). So I e-mailed gosucoaching with a pretty stern, but fair (get it?) e-mail. They responded and were all apologetic; giving the whole "yeah ur right, ur right" deal. Then I got an e-mail from them asking about what days and time blocks during those days were good for me. Obviously, I'm finally happy that they took some interest in their duties as a business, and they also implied (didn't say, but implied) that incontrol wouldn't be available so they offered me inka or future as a new coach. I decided on future and scheduled the coaching session for the 23rd, monday, or yesterday for all you tweekers out there from 9-11 pm (still didn't say what time zone, so I assumed eastern). I eagerly awaited a pm from future on b.net from 6pm - 10pm which never came. So I e-mailed gosucoaching @ 8:11pm my time, and then again just moments ago with no reply.

I'm not demanding a refund yet, because I have not heard back from gosucoaching. I signed up for gosucoaching for two reasons. One, being that I want to improve. Two, I wanted to help out a "business" that came from within the community that wanted to give back to the community. I definitely don't want to ask for a refund because I really want to support them and I want to spread the word about how great of an asset they are to the community. But as of right now I'm just not seeing it, and I'm extremely disappointed with everything that they have done thus far.

Thanks for reading,

Adam aka "TheGWi"


p.s.

yeah i know there are going to be some posts that are ever so trite and say something of the "dont pay them just practice more har har har" so thanks for the advice in advance.
Doubt is the venom that has paralyzed humanity.
gods_basement
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States305 Posts
August 24 2010 06:57 GMT
#2
i'm sure that they would rather you ask for a refund than tarnish the public image of their service.

in the business world, they say that an internal failure costs 10x the cost of the product, but an external failure (one that gets out) costs 100x the cost of the product
(TT~TT)
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
August 24 2010 06:59 GMT
#3
Wow that sucks! That seems so stupid....but you should definitely ask for their time zone...to save on that waiting time.

T_T that sucks
Jaedong :3
MacroNcheesE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States508 Posts
August 24 2010 07:01 GMT
#4
Tarnish? Hardly. They have plenty of good reviews on TL. I am just blogging about my experience with them.
Doubt is the venom that has paralyzed humanity.
Nfi
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States357 Posts
August 24 2010 07:17 GMT
#5
Sooo you payed 200$ for a subpar player to teach you a game thats still basically new. I am the only one that sees anything wrong with this?

User was warned for this post
"Man is least himself when he talks in his own person, give man a mask, and he will tell you the truth."
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
August 24 2010 07:20 GMT
#6
On August 24 2010 16:17 Nfi wrote:
Sooo you payed 200$ for a subpar player to teach you a game thats still basically new. I am the only one that sees anything wrong with this?


Its his money he spends it how he damn well wants to spend it.
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
August 24 2010 07:21 GMT
#7
On August 24 2010 16:17 Nfi wrote:
Sooo you payed 200$ for a subpar player to teach you a game thats still basically new. I am the only one that sees anything wrong with this?

It's his money, he earned it. He can spend it on whatever he wants.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
tiffany
Profile Joined November 2003
3664 Posts
August 24 2010 07:38 GMT
#8
ok so the first time you tried to schedule a match both parties failed to specify a time zone. that is almost understandable. then when you try to schedule it again you once again fail to specify a time zone. why did you let it happen again? even if you happened to have enough free time to sit around to cover all four possible US time zones, it still doesn't make sense to me that you would agree to anything without a clear time zone.
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
August 24 2010 07:40 GMT
#9
Sup gwi... dont pay them just practice more imo.

Practice more with me specifically.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 07:45:31
August 24 2010 07:44 GMT
#10
On August 24 2010 16:17 Nfi wrote:
Sooo you payed 200$ for a subpar player to teach you a game thats still basically new. I am the only one that sees anything wrong with this?


Have you been coached by incontrol? Plenty of coaches aren't super players...

Edit: On-topic... this review DOES have an effect on other people b/c if I was considering coaching after seeing this I most certainly wouldn't want to trust them with my money...

I await a response from GC
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
MacroNcheesE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States508 Posts
August 24 2010 07:49 GMT
#11
On August 24 2010 16:38 tiffany wrote:
ok so the first time you tried to schedule a match both parties failed to specify a time zone. that is almost understandable. then when you try to schedule it again you once again fail to specify a time zone. why did you let it happen again? even if you happened to have enough free time to sit around to cover all four possible US time zones, it still doesn't make sense to me that you would agree to anything without a clear time zone.



yeah this is true and I added that in response to an e-mail that I sent to them where I said that I assumed it was EST, and they sent me back a response giving me 9pm-11pm w/o a time zone. I told them that I assumed it was EST and they did not tell me different and the US pretty much operates on EST (TV etc) wouldn't you believe that it would be in the EST?
Doubt is the venom that has paralyzed humanity.
MacroNcheesE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States508 Posts
August 24 2010 07:52 GMT
#12
On August 24 2010 16:40 SnowFantasy wrote:
Sup gwi... dont pay them just practice more imo.

Practice more with me specifically.



I <3 you tetris! FUCK YOU NO! lolol.
Doubt is the venom that has paralyzed humanity.
category
Profile Joined July 2009
United States85 Posts
August 24 2010 07:52 GMT
#13
i think most of them live in PST
MacroNcheesE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States508 Posts
August 24 2010 07:55 GMT
#14
LOL OKAY! regardless of timezone I was/have been online during the PST hours that the coaching session should have taken place.
Doubt is the venom that has paralyzed humanity.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 07:59:18
August 24 2010 07:58 GMT
#15
I'm definitely sorry about this, but for one - I don't deal at all with scheduling or processing of stuff, I just run tournaments and write news content for the website. Secondly, it could very well be that the reason you haven't gotten a response in the past few days is because Louder is moving to a new house and doesn't have internet back up yet. I know he hired an assistant, but perhaps that person is not doing her job? I'm not sure.

Either way, I apologize for the inconvenience to you because none of that excuses the fact that you haven't been helped yet.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
MacroNcheesE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States508 Posts
August 24 2010 08:22 GMT
#16
I absolutely understand Xeris, and like I said in my post you've been extremely helpful. I did not know about Louder's move, and his assistant is doing an extremely poor job imho. Also, as I said in my original post, I definitely want to have a good experience with gosucoaching and definitely want to spread the grace of gosucoaching. But, I'm extremely frustrated with how it's being ran. I mean this has been going on for about two weeks now. So forgive me if you think that I'm being too harsh or what have you, but you can't say that I am venting with no provocation. I'm sure anyone else would do the same thing or act in a completely irrational manner (which I do not think I am doing).

Thanks for the apology and all your help. But I would really like to see some results within the next couple of days or I will have to demand a refund.

Doubt is the venom that has paralyzed humanity.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
August 24 2010 08:39 GMT
#17
this thread is full of wrong.




User was warned for this post
MacroNcheesE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States508 Posts
August 24 2010 09:18 GMT
#18
On August 24 2010 17:39 Coagulation wrote:
this thread is full of wrong.




How so? I don't really understand your post, it's extremely vague.
Doubt is the venom that has paralyzed humanity.
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
August 24 2010 09:25 GMT
#19
GWi I miss your beautiful voice.

Your manly, beautiful voice...
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 24 2010 09:54 GMT
#20
On August 24 2010 17:39 Coagulation wrote:
this thread is full of wrong.




Posting idiotic stuff like that gets you warned/temp banned... you should know this.

Anywho, cool to see that Xeris responded quickly
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 8h 17m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft481
IndyStarCraft 100
SteadfastSC 98
BRAT_OK 93
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 48784
Calm 5524
Light 1448
Bisu 1323
Shuttle 724
Mini 633
Soma 415
Soulkey 346
ZerO 342
Hyuk 300
[ Show more ]
Rush 273
Stork 246
Snow 226
hero 158
PianO 75
Sea.KH 66
Dewaltoss 65
Yoon 55
Mong 52
Liquid`Ret 43
JYJ 27
Barracks 25
sSak 22
soO 20
Terrorterran 18
Rock 18
Hm[arnc] 13
NaDa 12
Free 12
Noble 9
eros_byul 1
firebathero 0
Dota 2
qojqva4856
Dendi2228
resolut1ontv 133
Counter-Strike
fl0m5838
olofmeister1864
shoxiejesuss1382
x6flipin362
byalli297
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King151
Heroes of the Storm
crisheroes270
Other Games
singsing1883
Liquid`RaSZi1113
B2W.Neo701
RotterdaM380
Lowko280
DeMusliM236
Liquid`VortiX196
KnowMe48
Chillindude46
Trikslyr33
ZerO(Twitch)19
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 11
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 9
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Shameless 38
• mYiSmile126
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV920
League of Legends
• TFBlade892
Other Games
• Shiphtur39
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
8h 17m
The PondCast
18h 17m
KCM Race Survival
18h 17m
Replay Cast
1d 8h
Escore
1d 18h
PiG Sty Festival
1d 20h
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
Patches Events
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
PiG Sty Festival
3 days
The Patches Monday
5 days
GSL
5 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSLAN 4
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 1
RSL Revival: Season 6
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
META DYMY #4
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W8
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.