EPT(and even if we both couldn't make, where did he come up with the idea that he beat me 10 times with offraces? Lies before more lies
digging himself into a deeper hole!)ROFL to all you D+'s on ICCUP - Page 12
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
(and even if we both couldn't make, where did he come up with the idea that he beat me 10 times with offraces? Lies before more lies digging himself into a deeper hole!) | ||
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
He is followed by a bunch of people who will slob his knob. They all are like "??? we dont care we lov u combat keep making vidyas!" on his youtube. I'm sure Combat-Ex could use hacks and still get away with having lots of supporters. | ||
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stk01001
United States786 Posts
Maybe this experience will humble him and he'll stop being such a smart ass, know-it-all, egomaniac in his videos. | ||
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Nasma
Australia7 Posts
Firstly, I haven't played on ICC cup yet as I'd get thrashed, I'd like to have some idea of what I'm doing before I jump in. As such I don't know about the abusing, but if he has, then he should get whatever penalty is appropriate in the ICC cup. I think that this is a separate issue from his youtube videos. While I don't doubt that there are many people much better than combat-ex, none of them post more than a few FPVods. His videos have proven very useful to me. While I don't doubt that there are errors in them, they are nowhere near as bad as the errors that I currently make. My playing has improved significantly since watching them and I find them much more helpful than replays or forum posts- even high quality ones- as I can see what I should be doing on the screen. To those who say- "But he's giving you the wrong advice", the way to counter this is to create your own, better, FPVods. Just knocking his doesn't help me (and other newbs) learn. On a side note- I find his commentary style enjoyable to listen to, if you don't, then just don't listen. If there are other prolific FPVod producers out there, it'd be great if someone could throw me a link. EDIT: Changed the phrasing of the last sentence | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
On July 27 2008 18:58 Nasma wrote: To those who say- "But he's giving you the wrong advice", the way to counter this is to create your own, better, FPVods. Just knocking his doesn't help me (and other newbs) learn. This videos already exist! that's the point. You can see some fpvods here. You can get strategy info in the strategy section. You can even make a thread with replays and people will analyze your particular problem and tell you what to do in those situations. You already have progamers FPVods (the best players in the world showing you how they play). Why would you go to someone who's not that good and even asks for donations? If he enjoys it so much and he loves doing videos for people who are new to do the game why not do it for free? I'm sorry i don't buy what he says in his videos. | ||
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Ajb007
France1 Post
First of all im not a noob i play starcraft for the beginning. Im watching combat-ex for like one year now, and i doubt that the guys who are insulting him watched all his videos. - He is not asking for some money ! He only says that it takes him a lot of time to do this free, and if people want to they can... What is the problem with that ? - He is playing a lot with his off races (T & Z) so what's the point if he shows videos against C or D+ people. - people said he was always posting videos where he wins. What's the point ? He wants to increase noobs level, not to show them how he can loose !!! - He is not saying he is the best... I never heard him saying that . He only says : to use this strat you must be good, like 180-190 apm... And ? ? ? 190 apm without spamming is really not a noob level !!! And in a lot of videos he says that he would be pwned by a lot of players in his team... - I don't agree with everything he says, but who cares ? Noobs who still learn his builds don't need perfect advices because they simply don't understand the game like gosu. They only need practice and vids like combat's Click on spoiler please ! And read that again... You really think insulting a guy who is not even there for like 13 pages is "forum etiquette" ?? + Show Spoiler + 2. THOU SHALL OBSERVE FORUM ETIQUETTE Common sense, people, common sense. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. (And if you happen to be into masochism, then you're at the wrong site, anyway.) This doesn't mean you can't get verbally medieval on someone's ass every once in a while. We don't run the place like a septic tank. But, flames are generally discouraged and we expect people to have a damn good reason for resorting to harsh language in the forums. This means gratuitous swearing is a no-no. Trolls will be burned, decapitated and banned. If you must flame, be smart about it. Creative flames will even get you respect - if the flame was warranted to begin with. Generally, you'll almost never go wrong by being nice, polite and mature. All just common sense, people. There are also a number of Rules of Posting in our forums. Take the time to observe and learn them. There are way too many to recite here, but the following are a few important examples: - Racist remarks will be shot down and you will be lynched. - Homophobic comments will get shoved way up your ass. - Sexist remarks of any kind whatsoever will be dealt with especially harshly. Yeah, we have female members - and we sure as hell would like to keep them! - DO NOT POST ANYTHING IN ALL CAPS IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE SCREAMING LIKE A RAVING LUNATIC AND WE WILL BE FORCED TO TREAT YOU LIKE ONE AAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! - Post your topics in the appropriate forum. We have separate forums for a reason. Use your head and post under the forum that's most relevant. - Don't be an attention whore and give away the results of games, sporting events, movie endings, etc. in the title of the thread/post. Also, if you're going to reveal stuff in the body of your post, then be decent enough to put a "spoiler" warning in advance. - Be very careful about resuscitating old threads. Sometimes it's ok, but sometimes it's not. - Don't know? Use the search function. It's better than Google and it works because whatever questions you may have, chances are we've already discussed it before ad nauseum. Did a search already and you still don't know? Ask politely! So i say only one thing : Let him do what he wants he is free !!! Stop insulting people like this. I respect Combat for the spare time he spent to post videos on youtube. And his matches are really not noob games !! Maybe not B+ or A games, but thats really enough for a noob to practice and to get better. The gosu players in this thread must be great noobs in life... People here are so rude... | ||
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Piy
Scotland3152 Posts
In other news, it seems a little unfair to brutalise this kid quite as much as you have. I've seen a few of his vids, the recent ones are pretty decent as opposed to the god awful old ones, so you can see him improving. I got B with my protoss quite easily (in like a year  ) a while back before I switched to Terran and I dont think its unrealistic that he managed it legit.Also, it is nice for the less skilled players in the community to have somebody constantly producing FPVOD's, even if just to give them a rough idea of whats required. It strikes me that this isn't as much about abuse on the iccup ladder as it is about a personal attack on Combat, who I assume to be a symbol for the hated SC2GG. His video response seemed to be pretty reasonable, seems pretty sorry about the handful of free wins he got, so I don't see why he should continue to be ridiculed by everyone on TL. Oh well, there's my thoughts on the subject broken down into short stilted sentences. | ||
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kefkalives
Australia1272 Posts
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Nasma
Australia7 Posts
On July 27 2008 20:02 kefkalives wrote: Combat fanboy club mobilise! some kids have been dissing our god! Try replying to some of the points in the last few posts | ||
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
Although there is some flaming in it, there are a lot of provided points. I think some people just don't feel like repeating others when you could save everyone time by just browsing and reading the posts before yours that actually address some of the "points" you guys have. | ||
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Tropics
United Kingdom1132 Posts
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Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
Firstly, TL doesn't hate SC2GG, or even mind them. They bring a different side to the community. What we dislike are the thousands of clueless fanboys (be they from youtube or wherever) that demand that their commentator gets recognized. Secondly, we do have a problem with people pretending to be better than they are. Commentators carry authority simply by being commentators. By commentating on a game, you are telling the world how things are (which carries more weight than just your opinion), and if you say the wrong things we will bitch about it. Think about anything you know a lot about (movies for instance), and then think about how annoyed you get when some guy that knows nothing about it tells everyone how this thing works while you are sitting there, and you know that half the things he is saying is bullshit. It's very annoying. So that covers the SC2GG side. We don't have a problem with the site, or with their members, and we even asked one of their members to help commentate on the TSL, as well as had a long discussion about potentially getting another one or two for the TSL. As long as they know what they are talking about, we don't mind. About Combat personally, firstly, he does spam a lot. Secondly, yes he is free to do what he likes, but if what he does is not acceptable to us, we are free to give him shit like we want to. Thirdly, asking for donations based on the premise that he is giving you insightful commentaries, while he is in fact not, is deceitful. Remember when Radiohead released "In Rainbows" for free on the internet, but you could donate, do you think it would have been fine if another crappy band made those songs, and asked for donations. In a similar way, Combat is claiming to be a B player (Radiohead), and is asking for money based on the premise that he is giving you good advice (or solid music from Radiohead). It turns out that his advice isn't sound (the music sucks), and that he is not a B player (and Radiohead didn't make "In Rainbows"), which means its deceitful. About the role of mods, their role is to moderate the site and make sure that it doesn't get out of hand. When one of the communty's "figureheads" turn out to be a cheater, having people say bad things about him is not the "community getting out of hand" but rather the community speaking its mind in a justified sense. If the mods felt that the hate towards Combat was unwarranted, they would have closed the thread. You say that you don't think it's unrealistic that he managed it legitly, while there is a ton of evidence that he did not manage it legitly. There is no debate about whether he abused or not. He abused. Whether he could be B rank or not is up for debate, but it is very unlikely. I do agree with you that it is nice to have someone provide fpvods on a regular basis, especially aimed at the newer players. The problem is, we don't want that someone to be someone of questionable values (cheating on a competitive ladder), or someone that teaches them the wrong things. This just makes it more difficult for those people that do know what's going on to get rid of the bad habits (as Zatic points out). Perhaps TL can start making proper FPVods aimed at the beginner that are quality controlled... I can raise it with some of the other mods. While his video is fairly respectful, he continues to lie on his video about various things, and he is clearly just trying to save face. The fact of the matter is that Combat has shown himself to be an abuser, he constantly hypes himself up, he asks for donations based on deceitful information, and he continues lying to save face. Because of this, this thread has not been closed yet. Also, this is a blog, which is intended for personal opinions. While we do moderate blogs, we moderate them much less harshly than normal forum posts. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On July 27 2008 11:39 Kletus wrote: Edit- Bloody semi-colon! Where do you think you're going?!?! Just wanted to say I loved this line for some reason ahahhah | ||
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jgad
Canada899 Posts
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liger13
United States1060 Posts
On July 27 2008 21:26 Daigomi wrote: Perhaps TL can start making proper FPVods aimed at the beginner that are quality controlled... I can raise it with some of the other mods. yay I like were this is going... | ||
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anderoo
Canada1876 Posts
On July 27 2008 20:02 kefkalives wrote: Combat fanboy club mobilise! They're unsieged, gogogog! 1a2a3a4a | ||
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yubee
United States3826 Posts
On July 27 2008 21:26 Daigomi wrote: errrrFirstly, TL doesn't hate SC2GG | ||
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
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GoShox
United States1837 Posts
On July 28 2008 00:13 jgad wrote: What I still don't understand is why he's been sharing the Infinity-Ex account. That he completely admits and seems totally unapologetic about. ICCup accounts aren't exactly expensive - I'm sure everyone can easily afford their own (for the low, low price of absolutely fu**ing nothing). I see nothing but cheating and abusing coming out of people sharing accounts - there's no other reason for it. There's nothing wrong with shared accounts, it's just purely how you use it. Progamers use shared-accounts on iCCup, as well as some bigger teams (Light had a shared account I think), it's just the way you use it. But yeah I pretty much agree with you on everything else. | ||
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