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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
August 03 2009 00:31 GMT
#41
You guys might not know this, but I consider myself a bit of a loner. I tend to think of myself as a one man wolf pack. Though when TeamLiquid brought Manifesto home I knew he was one of my own. And my wolf pack, it grew by one. So where there two of, there was two of us in the wolf pack.. I was alone first in the pack and then Manifesto joined in later. And six months ago when Manifesto introduced me to the rest of MiR, I thought, “Wait a second could it be?”. And now I know for sure.. I just added more guys to my wolf pack. Four+ of us wolves, running around the internet together in TeamLiquid; looking for progamers and playing Starcraft. So tonight, I make a toast!
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Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
August 03 2009 02:24 GMT
#42
Like others have said, I don't think many people would be confident about killing the wolf. That being said, I like that idea much better then just blocking the wolf. It is possible to hit the wolf in the head hard enough to either knock it senseless or deter it from further attacking you, however I don't see how you're going to out muscle or wrestle a wolf coming at you. There is no way you're running away from it, so it essentially comes down to using the club effectively. I'd say your best chance is to sidestep it the wolf as it lunges and throw a thunderous swing hoping to hit something. Even if you hit a leg you may be able to cripple it enough that you can get the hell out of there.

Why golf club btw? If this were a bat, I'd say your chances are much higher, but a golf club is such an odd weapon choice.
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
August 03 2009 02:55 GMT
#43
Oh, and not sure how similar coyotes are to wolves, but at work I often encounter a coyote that is about the size of a German Shepherd (I'm pretty sure it is always the same one) and it has never once been aggressive towards me in any way. (By 'encounter' I mean we both spot each other from about 25-50 yards away, observe each other for a few seconds, and then go on about our business. I'm not trying to sound like a badass or anything, because if he ever decided to charge me I would be able to get back into my cart before he got to me, so that is the only reason it isn't scary for me.) I'm pretty sure the wolf, unless it had rabies or something, would rather leave you alone than fight you, unless it was with its pack, in which case you are probably screwed unless you have a gun.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 03 2009 03:02 GMT
#44
i think best bet is to hit the wolf hard enough to stun it then run, but it's unlikely you'll come out unscathed either way. I definitely dont think a golf club is strong enough to kill the wolf though.
deverlight
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Korea (South)463 Posts
August 03 2009 04:10 GMT
#45
I think the golf club would be sufficient to kill a wolf... to a trained fighter. The average man would just piss his pants, flail the club around like an idiot, and get killed. Have you ever seen two average guys fight? (Not trained in martial arts) You'll see a lot of ineffective flailing, grappling, and grunting. If you were to approach these guys normally and ask them if they knew how to throw a punch, they'd probably say yes. But the point is that in an actual fight, when they've got this huge adrenaline rush, and they're in an unfamiliar situation, they won't be able to throw anything that even resembles an effective punch.

Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
August 03 2009 04:34 GMT
#46
How about vs this?
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LuckyOne
Profile Joined December 2006
266 Posts
August 03 2009 04:49 GMT
#47
Tiger Woods > wolf
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-03 06:39:31
August 03 2009 05:55 GMT
#48
well i would swing it like a bat, not like i was golfing

and i don't think It would be that hard to nail the wolf in the head. i can nail a baseball with a bat, which is smaller than a wolf head and moving much faster - AND not connected to a body.

and I think that the blow might kill the wolf. that is a lot of force over a small area. but I definitely wouldn't be confident about it. but I don't think it would keep coming after me.
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
August 03 2009 06:29 GMT
#49
On August 03 2009 13:34 Jibba wrote:
How about vs this?
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
August 03 2009 06:44 GMT
#50
um... I'd just try to scare it away because in a real fight there's no way to win lol
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Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
August 03 2009 06:59 GMT
#51
On August 03 2009 09:31 Hot_Bid wrote:
You guys might not know this, but I consider myself a bit of a loner. I tend to think of myself as a one man wolf pack. Though when TeamLiquid brought Manifesto home I knew he was one of my own. And my wolf pack, it grew by one. So where there two of, there was two of us in the wolf pack.. I was alone first in the pack and then Manifesto joined in later. And six months ago when Manifesto introduced me to the rest of MiR, I thought, “Wait a second could it be?”. And now I know for sure.. I just added more guys to my wolf pack. Four+ of us wolves, running around the internet together in TeamLiquid; looking for progamers and playing Starcraft. So tonight, I make a toast!


Finally someone talking some sense in this thread. Seriously where do people come up with this stuff?
May the BeSt man win.
eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-03 08:08:34
August 03 2009 08:07 GMT
#52
On August 03 2009 06:40 Granteli wrote:
Ok well here goes... Im his friend that got in this argument with him. Let me set a little more strict paramaters... the wolf is intent on killing you and will not retreat until you are dead. You are on a golf course, are a good yardage away, and aware the wolf is going to try to kill you; giving you ample time to prepare for a swing.

**SINGLE WOLF** no pack.
** Using an iron not a wood (a little more sturdy and shorter allowing the whole club to at least have some sort of power behind it)**

Also the word confidently seems to edge any normal person to say no so he worded it in his favor... Im not going to grab a golf club and go wolf hunting.

Im making a point that a melee armed person could beat a single wolf and that it doesnt escape the realm of possibility.

Also option B is a 10x worse idea IMO. Sorry bro.


I think most sane people in here would agree that you stand little chance against a wolf if you have a golf club -- although there is still a chance, of course.

So it really depends on what you actually think you'll be able to do, and if you can bet on making that same decision when the time comes.

The problem I have with swining the club, is that it would be nearly impossible to time the swing being as you don't know when this 35 mph wolf is going to pounce.

And of course the biggest problem -- being rushed at by a rabid animal known to tear animals to pieces -- are you that sure you'll be cool headed enough to time a swing with a golf club?




Or will you, perhaps by instinct, do the "oh shit get away from me stance" and defend your vitals, take the fight to the ground, and go from there (I agree running is dumb, I just put it up there as an option).

Now will you have a better chance on the ground? Hell if I know, you'll probably die. But I'd personally defend myself as opposed to putting my life into the hands of a near impossible clean hit from a golf club.


And don't try to criticize my poll when it describes exactly what you were thinking when this argument started -- you were cocky as hell, you were positive you'd kill a wolf if int he situation.

Which is why you're argument was in no way practical, as it was actually a situation where you would actually die 8/10 times.

So when your chances are 20% or less, don't talk like you know what you're doing.


And at the end of the day, 95% people would shit their pants and try to block the initial pounce with the golf club, as opposed to lining up for a home run swing.

sorry bro




arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
August 03 2009 08:16 GMT
#53
Guys i think the real question is.

Is this a normal Wolf
or a (Z)Superiorwolf
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
August 03 2009 08:39 GMT
#54
I'd take my chances with A

trying to run away from a wolf is an idiotic choice unless there's something very close by to climb up on that a wolf would not be able to traverse

I do not think me using a golf club as a barrier will do much to a 95 pound object running 40 mph straight at me. so I hope to god I make solid contact with the club and injure the wolf enough so that the wolf considers me a poor decision to continue attacking.

otherwise, I pray I end up at the wolf's back and controlling it's neck, although in all likelihood it would probably manage to spin around and I'd end up on my back facing a whole lot of wolf teeth
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thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
August 03 2009 08:57 GMT
#55
When I went to Tibet, which has a rabid dog problem, or at least did several years ago, I remember hearing that it wasn't particularly difficult to deal with an attacking animal if you were prepared. As I recall, it was advised that you aim for the front of the jaw, which is weaker and a target that would render your canine attacker without means to hamstring you and tear out your throat. While I would imagine a wolf to be a far more dangerous foe than your average dog it's likely that the weak jaw thing would still apply.

With this rationale, I think I would go for the crippling blow with the bottom of my foot to the animal's jaw. I would use the golf club to either delay the charge or to incapacitate the wolf after the kick.
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
August 03 2009 10:15 GMT
#56
On August 03 2009 15:59 Djabanete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2009 09:31 Hot_Bid wrote:
You guys might not know this, but I consider myself a bit of a loner. I tend to think of myself as a one man wolf pack. Though when TeamLiquid brought Manifesto home I knew he was one of my own. And my wolf pack, it grew by one. So where there two of, there was two of us in the wolf pack.. I was alone first in the pack and then Manifesto joined in later. And six months ago when Manifesto introduced me to the rest of MiR, I thought, “Wait a second could it be?”. And now I know for sure.. I just added more guys to my wolf pack. Four+ of us wolves, running around the internet together in TeamLiquid; looking for progamers and playing Starcraft. So tonight, I make a toast!


Finally someone talking some sense in this thread. Seriously where do people come up with this stuff?


I'm not sure if you're referring to HB's post or to the replies in the thread but if it's to HB's post it's from the movie The Hangover
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6635 Posts
August 03 2009 12:08 GMT
#57
I'd definitely hit it with the club, I might not damage it that much but it would almost certainly be better than holding the club up to try and just keep it back or running away. I think with multiple hard hits to the skull of the animal it could be taken down.
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Granteli
Profile Joined August 2009
United States2 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-04 16:36:53
August 04 2009 16:33 GMT
#58
Once again you are defending the **confidently** word when you know just as well as I do that noone would be confident. Good job wording it in your favor. Either way, it seems to me that the only shot you have is a crack at the damn thing and im one to play the odds. If i had a weapon against a wolf running 40 mph and the "fight or flight" instinct kicked in im going for the former. It sounds like a good percentage of people are saying the same thing so "95%" may be a bit skewed. However that extremely muscular dog would probably be better against a wolf than I would. (that picture is hilarious)

So if it came right down to it; Gratz on winning your rhetorically advantageous poll. On the other hand it seems alot of people agree option A is your best shot (based soley on this forum the number exceeds your assumed 5%) so your secondary argument was a bit of a bust. (if based on the poll and forum responses you chose to utilize)
KingofHearts
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Japan562 Posts
August 04 2009 20:11 GMT
#59
what the wolf is only 95 pounds? thats very light. btw ill make friends with the wolf.
moshi moshi~
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 04 2009 20:22 GMT
#60
On August 03 2009 13:49 LuckyOne wrote:
Tiger Woods > wolf


Right, if you have some skill playing golf and/or tennis/baseball, etc. you can be fairly confident of landing a good hit.

Which brings me to the next question: how about with a baseball bat???
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